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17 February 2011, 10:56 AM
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Isn't it great that Bernie is supporting regimes like these and the abuse of human rights that go with it:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/9400392.stm
Looks like the race could be off, mind, I'm sure the authorities will just keep shooting people until it goes ahead.
Well done Bernie!
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/9400392.stm
Looks like the race could be off, mind, I'm sure the authorities will just keep shooting people until it goes ahead.
Well done Bernie!
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17 February 2011, 11:07 AM
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F1 Fan - totally agree, but then, they aren't paying Bernie lots of cash to turn a blind eye to their abuse while he promotes their environmentally disaster of a racist hell hole to the rest of the world are they?
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17 February 2011, 11:18 AM
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Hang on a minute Bahrain is a key ally of the US. Surely it must be a model of democratic perfection for the self appointed (and sponsored by the SN NSR Hard Right Society) World Poilce to give it a clean bill of health or is it just the racsim and oppression of their people doesn't stop the oil flowing?
17 February 2011, 11:26 AM
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Hang on a minute Bahrain is a key ally of the US. Surely it must be a model of democratic perfection for the self appointed (and sponsored by the SN NSR Hard Right Society) World Poilce to give it a clean bill of health or is it just the racsim and oppression of their people doesn't stop the oil flowing?
17 February 2011, 11:28 AM
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Didn't say that about Australia at all. I can understand how you might have read it that way but that isn't what it says.
Remember, if you visit these places you are seen as sub human and lower than the locals who will simply push in front of you for service
The violence in these places and the way protest is put down is not something F1 should be supporting IMHO.
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Remember, if you visit these places you are seen as sub human and lower than the locals who will simply push in front of you for service
The violence in these places and the way protest is put down is not something F1 should be supporting IMHO.
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17 February 2011, 11:35 AM
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Didn't say that about Australia at all. I can understand how you might have read it that way but that isn't what it says.
Remember, if you visit these places you are seen as sub human and lower than the locals who will simply push in front of you for service
The violence in these places and the way protest is put down is not something F1 should be supporting IMHO.
5t.
Remember, if you visit these places you are seen as sub human and lower than the locals who will simply push in front of you for service
The violence in these places and the way protest is put down is not something F1 should be supporting IMHO.
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Nationals in all the Gulf states are like that to some degree. These countries are quasi-racist states, you can't immigrate there and the 'privilage' of citizenship is not open to anyone like in the west. You have masses of 3rd world Labour toiling like a helot slave class, and everyone makes out that Israel is a racist state!
17 February 2011, 11:38 AM
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I was surprised to see about all this. We used to stage through Bahrain regularly on the way to the far east with the VC10. We used to stop overnight and never saw any signs of unrest or protest against the government.
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17 February 2011, 11:43 AM
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He's playing his anti-west victim politics by trying to make out Australia brutalized the indigenous people and tried to wipe them out.
Nationals in all the Gulf states are like that to some degree. These countries are quasi-racist states, you can't immigrate there and the 'privilage' of citizenship is not open to anyone like in the west. You have masses of 3rd world Labour toiling like a helot slave class, and everyone makes out that Israel is a racist state!
Nationals in all the Gulf states are like that to some degree. These countries are quasi-racist states, you can't immigrate there and the 'privilage' of citizenship is not open to anyone like in the west. You have masses of 3rd world Labour toiling like a helot slave class, and everyone makes out that Israel is a racist state!
Joe falls over himself in an attempt to clarify the situation.
17 February 2011, 11:46 AM
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Didn't say that about Australia at all. I can understand how you might have read it that way but that isn't what it says.
Remember, if you visit these places you are seen as sub human and lower than the locals who will simply push in front of you for service
The violence in these places and the way protest is put down is not something F1 should be supporting IMHO.
5t.
Remember, if you visit these places you are seen as sub human and lower than the locals who will simply push in front of you for service
The violence in these places and the way protest is put down is not something F1 should be supporting IMHO.
5t.
I fully agree with your sentiment regarding the oppressive regimes in the Gulf. However because they are seen as staunch allies of the West don't expect any sanction or boycott.
17 February 2011, 11:48 AM
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So you think we should be sanctioning or boycotting regimes we don't like? What about the mantra of 'not interfering'?
17 February 2011, 11:48 AM
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Its not as if Bahrain is the only place that has issues that F1 visits.
China isn't exactly shy when it comes to giving the population the odd back hander. Italy appears to be run by a Peadophille.
I'm entirely sure if Bernie cares too much - he gets paid either way and probably has quite a healthy penalty if a race fails to go ahead because of the locals getting shirty.
China isn't exactly shy when it comes to giving the population the odd back hander. Italy appears to be run by a Peadophille.
I'm entirely sure if Bernie cares too much - he gets paid either way and probably has quite a healthy penalty if a race fails to go ahead because of the locals getting shirty.
17 February 2011, 11:58 AM
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Boycotting/sanctioning is not directly interfering is it? If I find someone unsavoury I avoid them and keep myself away from them. I don't walk up to them and tell them they're a tw@t and do things my way. One is sanctioning the other is interfering, I'm sure you can work out which is which.
17 February 2011, 12:01 PM
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Boycotting/sanctioning is not directly interfering is it? If I find someone unsavoury I avoid them and keep myself away from them. I don't walk up to them and tell them they're a tw@t and do things my way. One is sanctioning the other is interfering, I'm sure you can work out which is which.
17 February 2011, 12:04 PM
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Boycotting/sanctioning is not directly interfering is it? If I find someone unsavoury I avoid them and keep myself away from them. I don't walk up to them and tell them they're a tw@t and do things my way. One is sanctioning the other is interfering, I'm sure you can work out which is which.
Do you check all the food/products that you buy and makes sure they are not produced by bad men?
Either way boycotting/sanctioning is an exercise in enforcing a political will even if it is not using the gun.
So are you for interfering in local politics in other countries or not?
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17 February 2011, 12:09 PM
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Absolutely. It's China's capitalism/commercialism that's the biggest threat now not their Communism. We all like cheap products but it's high time we stopped buying Chinese products. We (the West) are fuelling China's rapid progress. I keep banging on about boosting domestic manufacture and then buying home made products. This will not only boost our economy but in a small part counteract the Chinese march. The more we rely on cheap (and it is cheap in all aspects) foreign tat and neglect our own industries, the more we become enslaved by these manufacturing giants.
17 February 2011, 12:32 PM
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Bernie is more concerned with his own pocket than anyone else. Terrible small man syndrome really. Still can't take it with him can he and he'll be remembered as nothing more than a sad little man too greedy for words. Not the epitaph most people would want.
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17 February 2011, 01:41 PM
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Ditto, last year was a complete borefest, it wouldent bother me if the race was skipped and the season started two weeks later in Malaysia.
