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Old 17 February 2011, 12:49 PM
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So the entire nation is being shafted by higher fuel prices. Those of us who drive, no matter how fugal a vehicle, have seen more of our money go into petrol costs. Those that don't drive are seeing rising costs of everything delivered by road, as the cost is passed onto the consumer. What has the Govt done about it, nothing, except say they're looking into the fuel stabilser but it's "proving difficult"

Edited to add NL weren't any better. Hopefully this will appease ***** like Stilover below.

Then we have the forest sell off. This affects primarily the chattering classes who love going for a horse ride in the wild. Scrapped. The Govt admits "we got it wrong".


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Old 17 February 2011, 12:51 PM
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And Labour were better were they?
Old 17 February 2011, 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by stilover
And Labour were better were they?
Amended my OP. Hopefully you'll be happier now.
Old 17 February 2011, 01:01 PM
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selling the forests off involves more than just the horsey set, ramblers, green laners and just those who want to go for a walk/ride with the family.

I do think that it is coming to a flashpoint with how prices are going up and services going down/cut and people getting a little tired of hearing ''we are in it together'' bollox so we can be bent over a little further and butt-fecked a little harder!

I also think that generally people are also a little tired of being told what to say, do and think and have our laws dictated to us by Europe!

Something is going to have to give...
Old 17 February 2011, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by FlightMan
Edited to add NL weren't any better. Hopefully this will appease ***** like Stilover below.
Now now, be nice.
Old 17 February 2011, 01:14 PM
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Old 17 February 2011, 01:15 PM
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The public voiced outrage at the forest sell off the government listened, more than New labia ever did
Old 17 February 2011, 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul Habgood

I also think that generally people are also a little tired of being told what to say, do and think and have our laws dictated to us by Europe!

Something is going to have to give...
Pulling out of Europe would be a start in my eyes, or start playing the same game as other contries and choosing which part of the European law want to follow and which to ignore.

Richard
Old 17 February 2011, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by rsarjantson
Pulling out of Europe would be a start in my eyes, or start playing the same game as other contries and choosing which part of the European law want to follow and which to ignore.

Richard
agreed!
Old 17 February 2011, 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by kingofturds
The public voiced outrage at the forest sell off the government listened, more than New labia ever did
Well why don't we voice outrage about the petrol prices then?
Old 17 February 2011, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Well why don't we voice outrage about the petrol prices then?
Becasue petrol revenue is worth billions to them, where as a few trees was only worth a few hundred million!
Old 17 February 2011, 03:08 PM
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I jsut drive less, which means i spend less since most of the time i'm driving to work, or the shops....So the shops lose my trade as do the forecourts, hence the economy gets further from its goal, and nearer to higher inflation and a double dip......ah the viscous circle ensues!
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Originally Posted by Wurzel
Becasue petrol revenue is worth billions to them, where as a few trees was only worth a few hundred million!
Correct
Old 17 February 2011, 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Wurzel
Becasue petrol revenue is worth billions to them, where as a few trees was only worth a few hundred million!
I agree and guess that the government need to fund public services and our commitments on the world stage.
Old 17 February 2011, 04:04 PM
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[QUOTE=Paul Habgood;9886941]selling the forests off involves more than just the horsey set, ramblers, green laners and just those who want to go for a walk/ride with the family.

Yes dont forget the "Doggers " !!!
Old 17 February 2011, 04:59 PM
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1) Get out of Europe and put a brake on entry to unskilled EU citizens

2) Get out of Afghan' as soon as

3) Cancel Trident and stop trying to be a world power (what's the point?)

4) Stop flaffing around with silly things like "The Big Society" and flogging the Oaks

5) Get a real grip on top level public sector management

6) Invest in the things UK is good at like medical research and alternative energy creation

I suppose it's too late to cancel the Olympics

That would be a start

dl
Old 17 February 2011, 07:56 PM
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[QUOTE=njkmrs;9887238]
Originally Posted by Paul Habgood
selling the forests off involves more than just the horsey set, ramblers, green laners and just those who want to go for a walk/ride with the family.

Yes dont forget the "Doggers " !!!
Heaven forbid if Blidworth Woods ever closed to the public..........
Old 17 February 2011, 08:06 PM
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Dont forget giving billions out in aid to other countries ,thats not needed let them deal with it
Old 17 February 2011, 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by zs_phil
Dont forget giving billions out in aid to other countries ,thats not needed let them deal with it
It is needed. If it wasn't needed, we wouldn't do it. Google 'soft diplomacy' and 'globalization' and 'realpolitik'.
Old 17 February 2011, 08:52 PM
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ahh crap. lets just nuke europe. i doubt it will solve anything but at least we'll all feel better
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Originally Posted by David Lock
1) Get out of Europe and put a brake on entry to unskilled EU citizens

2) Get out of Afghan' as soon as

3) Cancel Trident and stop trying to be a world power (what's the point?)

4) Stop flaffing around with silly things like "The Big Society" and flogging the Oaks

5) Get a real grip on top level public sector management

6) Invest in the things UK is good at like medical research and alternative energy creation

I suppose it's too late to cancel the Olympics

That would be a start

dl
+1

Old 17 February 2011, 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
It is needed. If it wasn't needed, we wouldn't do it. Google 'soft diplomacy' and 'globalization' and 'realpolitik'.


Also google "charity starts at home" and " India can afford to host a money earning commonwealth games, and build and Formula 1 track but still need a billion from our pocket".....When will we learn we are not a super power, we are a tiny island. Worry about ourselves, like feking New Zealand for example.....good standard of life, lower crime, tight imigration control....happy days...who would give a *** if we had lower incomes, and a tiny seat at the "world table" if we paid less tax, and our woman could raise our kids without us all having to kill ourselves working like dogs.....
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Originally Posted by SpecDscooby
Also google "charity starts at home" and " India can afford to host a money earning commonwealth games, and build and Formula 1 track but still need a billion from our pocket".....When will we learn we are not a super power, we are a tiny island. Worry about ourselves, like feking New Zealand for example.....good standard of life, lower crime, tight imigration control....happy days...who would give a *** if we had lower incomes, and a tiny seat at the "world table" if we paid less tax, and our woman could raise our kids without us all having to kill ourselves working like dogs.....
Old 17 February 2011, 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by SpecDscooby
Also google "charity starts at home" and " India can afford to host a money earning commonwealth games, and build and Formula 1 track but still need a billion from our pocket".....When will we learn we are not a super power, we are a tiny island. Worry about ourselves, like feking New Zealand for example.....good standard of life, lower crime, tight imigration control....happy days...who would give a *** if we had lower incomes, and a tiny seat at the "world table" if we paid less tax, and our woman could raise our kids without us all having to kill ourselves working like dogs.....
Yep, that's the other position. It isn't mine and it isn't the country's but, I can see the attraction to a certain personality type. It always reminds me of that 'killer rabbit' scene from the Holy Grail - "runaway, runaway!"
Old 17 February 2011, 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
Yep, that's the other position. It isn't mine and it isn't the country's but, I can see the attraction to a certain personality type. It always reminds me of that 'killer rabbit' scene from the Holy Grail - "runaway, runaway!"

Your so right....WING.

Got a massive picture of William Hague on your wall too?
Old 17 February 2011, 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by SpecDscooby
Your so right....WING.

Got a massive picture of William Hague on your wall too?
Old 17 February 2011, 10:52 PM
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[QUOTE=Frosticles;9887733]
Originally Posted by njkmrs

Heaven forbid if Blidworth Woods ever closed to the public..........
It wouldn't matter, you could always sneak in the back entrance...
Old 17 February 2011, 11:33 PM
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Ahhh, the patronising tone of some Scoobynet posts always brings me back to earth after a good night out with real people!
Old 18 February 2011, 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Ahhh, the patronising tone of some Scoobynet posts always brings me back to earth after a good night out with real people!
Oh the irony.
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Originally Posted by FlightMan
Oh the irony.
I know, the trouble is I just hate it when someone comes along who can do patronsing so much better than me

On a more serious note I maybe wrong here, but I don't think this thread has quite gne the way you intended. I guess you weren't taking a swipe at any government or political party as much as at the people who are happy to moan on fourms and the likes about fuel costs yet not actually do anything and drawing a parallel with those who got a petition of half a million signatures against the forestry sell off.

Whilst it is tempting to say that the governement were only looking after their own that was some petition and I do wonder what could be achieved if even only a relatively small percentage of the motorists of the UK could co-ordinate something on a proportional scale.


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