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Old 28 July 2011, 01:22 PM
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Default Dyson Vacuum Plug \ Lead Caught fire

My wife was at home with 3 kids, a new born, 2 year old and a 4 year old.

She plugged the vacuum into the mains and the wire where it goes into the plug caught fire, and she called me asking how to put it out! house (living room and passage) were full of smoke and the wall where the socket is has gone black! Kids coughing!

Luckily she found a fire extinguisher to put the fire out!

What if there was no fire extinguisher in the house?

Now i called Dyson, there response is:

If its a socket fault then they will charge me, but if its a vacuum fault they will fix free of charge!

Waiting for a call back from another department as i said the above is not acceptable!

Im thinking what if the fire got out of control and burnt the house down, 3 little kids in the house..


Anyone got any ideas on what i should do?

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Old 28 July 2011, 01:34 PM
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That is worrying stuff.
How old the Dyson?
Old 28 July 2011, 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by SamUK
My wife was at home with 3 kids, a new born, 2 year old and a 4 year old.

She plugged the vacuum into the mains and the wire where it goes into the plug caught fire, and she called me asking how to put it out! house (living room and passage) were full of smoke and the wall where the socket is has gone black! Kids coughing!

Luckily she found a fire extinguisher to put the fire out!

What if there was no fire extinguisher in the house?

Now i called Dyson, there response is:

If its a socket fault then they will charge me, but if its a vacuum fault they will fix free of charge!

Waiting for a call back from another department as i said the above is not acceptable!

Im thinking what if the fire got out of control and burnt the house down, 3 little kids in the house..


Anyone got any ideas on what i should do?

So far so good I would say, they are going to look into it ..

If it turns out to be Dysons fault then I would expect all repairs to be carried out, redecorate the room and any other rooms damaged and something for your trouble.
Old 28 July 2011, 02:18 PM
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Was it a socket in your new extension ?
Old 28 July 2011, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Gear Head
That is worrying stuff.
How old the Dyson?
8 months old
Old 28 July 2011, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by 53WRX
Was it a socket in your new extension ?
nope...and the new extension had a new power source from the mains outside the house.

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Old 28 July 2011, 02:30 PM
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Should have bought a Miele

Made in Germany not China. Ten year guarantee.
Old 28 July 2011, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Coffin Dodger
Should have bought a Miele

Made in Germany not China. Ten year guarantee.
i thought dyson were made in thailand?

I prefer thai hands handling my equipment than german
Old 28 July 2011, 02:44 PM
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Wiltshire they now make them in Malaysia sam sorry no help just buy a new one
Old 28 July 2011, 03:46 PM
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I would get an independent electrical engineers report on the cause of the fire, if its the plug its your home insurance. if its the Dyson warn them, then sue them
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Do you use the socket in question a lot?
Old 28 July 2011, 04:13 PM
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This is mosty likely to have been caused by a poor connection between the wire and the pins of the plug, or the wire has been stressed internally.

Moulded plugs have the cable crimped onto the pin terminals, so if the plug/wire see undue stress and/or abuse (Abuse is pulling the plug out by the cable or trying to reach 1ft futher into a room than the cable will allow), the cable will stretch and wire will partially pull out the terminals/crimps creating a point of high resistance.

High resistance + 1000watts = heat. If bad enough it WILL melt a cable/plug and even catch fire.

Seeing modern vacuums tend to have cables that are too short compared to old-school cleaners (Our old DCO4 (now used at work) is a good few metres longer than its newer DC07 counterpart ), the tendency to pull the plug out by the cable by accident is very likely to be the cause. Consequentally an internally damaged cable is a very common on fault on most brands of cleaners. My gran's old Meile being one of them - I had to repair that several times before it was binned in lieu of a DC03 (due to the increasingly expensive bags ).

Same can be said for a faulty socket. I've melted a plug with a tumble dryer; Nowt wrong with the plug, the socket terminals were loose!

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Old 28 July 2011, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Scooby Soon!
i thought dyson were made in thailand?

I prefer thai hands handling my equipment than german
Where did I mention Dyson
Old 28 July 2011, 07:18 PM
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Do you have house insurance?
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Seen dozens of them where the lead breaks as if enters the vacuum and in some cases creates a small puff of smoke as the live and neutral short out, usually resulting in the plugtop fuse blowing.
Never seen one go at the plug end though. What model Dyson is it?? As has been said above the build quality of them has defenitly gone down since production was switched to Malaysia.
Should of bought a Sebo X4. You'd never had any problems then
Old 28 July 2011, 09:40 PM
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check out all the hoover experts
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Originally Posted by Ant
check out all the hoover experts
Old 29 July 2011, 09:49 AM
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Expertise is gained through women coming to a man saying their vacuum cleaner won't work.....Note that its always the woman that always break them and its the man's job to fix it, as when she isn't doing the cleaning, she'll be nagging instead.


An 'owned' man is one who can't fix it and has to buy another to keep her quiet.
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right, i eventually got home last night. The wall is black just under the socket so i can assume the wire caught fire and were it touched the wall it brunet it.

The wire was melted where it goes into the plug.

Dyson are coming out on Wednesday next week to access \ look at the vacuum.

They have also said they have never heard of a cable catching fire before so it is little odd..
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Probably something to do with the dodgy polish sparky who did you extension
Old 29 July 2011, 10:23 AM
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Dyson are usually very good with warranty claims even send free parts when its out of warranty in my case twice. Give them a chance to come out. Lets be fair what company will give you an offer without even seeing whats happened.
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Originally Posted by Ant
Probably something to do with the dodgy polish sparky who did you extension
Maybe...but this happened in the old part of the house..new part has new wiring and it comes straight from the mains and does not touch the existing wiring..

I think this issue fits well with Ali-B's theory..
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Originally Posted by JAutos
Dyson are usually very good with warranty claims even send free parts when its out of warranty in my case twice. Give them a chance to come out. Lets be fair what company will give you an offer without even seeing whats happened.
Fair point..will wait till Wednesday..

So how many people have fire extinguishers in there houses? if not i would recommend you invest in one..
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Originally Posted by ALi-B
An 'owned' man is one who can't fix it and has to buy another to keep her quiet.
LOL - We still have a 15yr old DC01 - I think I have pretty much rebuilt it over the years....
Missus wants a new 'ball' one - I told her I can get *every* part for this online, how can it ever break down.... lol

Even had to put new wheels on it last month, they had worn the centre axle hole so much that the the wheels fell off as the hole was that big it came off the shaft AND over the retaining washer as well!! hahaha.

Rolls like a Rolls Royce now - new wheels £5 - good for another 15...
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this vac was my wife's Birthday present last year..lol
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Slightly off topic, but what type of fire extinguisher did she use to put the fire out?
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I think you should get an independent professional to check the plug and the hoover to find the real fault.

Les
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So what happened then?
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yeah come on ..
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Originally Posted by SamUK
Fair point..will wait till Wednesday..

So how many people have fire extinguishers in there houses? if not i would recommend you invest in one..
Yep I've got one, if you get one get a dry powder job and also a fire blanket for the kitchen. Too many untrained people would use a water extinuisher to puit out an electrical fire.

Chip

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