Buying a new car and phoning dealers for quotes - do they take you seriously?
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Buying a new car and phoning dealers for quotes - do they take you seriously?
We are thinking of buying a Fiesta Metal for the wife.
I have a price for one off Drivethedeal.com and I have a Glass Guide price for our part ex. Audi A3.
Do you think dealers will start serious discussions over the phone? I don't have the time to drive around 10 dealers and drink their awful tea, listen to their crap and play their games (you know, the going to speak to their manager for 3 mins, pretending they are your friend).
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I have a price for one off Drivethedeal.com and I have a Glass Guide price for our part ex. Audi A3.
Do you think dealers will start serious discussions over the phone? I don't have the time to drive around 10 dealers and drink their awful tea, listen to their crap and play their games (you know, the going to speak to their manager for 3 mins, pretending they are your friend).
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When I was buying my last Sti I rang a few dealers and told them I was definately buying a new Sti and asked what their best price was for cash. I got 3 written quotes then went to my local dealer with these and basically said "beat that" which he duly did.
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choc obrian http://www.iwoc.co.uk/prodrive1.html read half way doon
I believe you, just can't understand what the **** you typed in some semi English-Scottich text lingo.
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The last new car we bought we went round 3 dealers, asking their best price etc. Ended at the one nearest home where we were most likely to buy.
If you don't take credit or buy "Armorguard" protection treatment, you won't get such a good price.
Anyway having been round them twice and got the absolute best possible deal we ordered the car. About a month later get a call from one of the unsuccessful dealers, told him the price we paid less a bit, and he said "You should have contacted us again, we could have beaten that." Sorry mate but how many chances do you want?
If you don't take credit or buy "Armorguard" protection treatment, you won't get such a good price.
Anyway having been round them twice and got the absolute best possible deal we ordered the car. About a month later get a call from one of the unsuccessful dealers, told him the price we paid less a bit, and he said "You should have contacted us again, we could have beaten that." Sorry mate but how many chances do you want?
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Steve, I think it can be done over the phone to some extent. Ring at a quiet time ie not at the weekend and be very clear that you are in the market to buy this week and not just dreaming.
Tell them if an agreement on price can be reached you will send email confirmation immediately and drive down in the next 48 hours to sign it off.
Make it clear that you want to give them business right now and people usually respond.
Good luck
Tell them if an agreement on price can be reached you will send email confirmation immediately and drive down in the next 48 hours to sign it off.
Make it clear that you want to give them business right now and people usually respond.
Good luck
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I do it face to face. Yes, allow a weekend, unless there is a specific car/model you want.
And I'm sorry, but the moment HE gets up "to speak to the manager", I'm following........since I have to DEAL with the manager, I will do THAT face to face too.
Feks up their little game.
BTW: the reason I now have a Scoob is because a dealer didn't take me seriously IN THE DEALERSHIP. He was VERY off hand, so I fekked him off and went to speak to his boss.
HE asked me what I was looking for, and when I told him I was unimpressed with a Pug 306 GTi6, he asked if I'd test-driven a Subaru?
I stil remember his words: "But a bit of advice: find out if you can afford one BEFORE you go for a test drive, since afterwards, you'll not be satisfied with anything else!"
And I'm sorry, but the moment HE gets up "to speak to the manager", I'm following........since I have to DEAL with the manager, I will do THAT face to face too.
Feks up their little game.
BTW: the reason I now have a Scoob is because a dealer didn't take me seriously IN THE DEALERSHIP. He was VERY off hand, so I fekked him off and went to speak to his boss.
HE asked me what I was looking for, and when I told him I was unimpressed with a Pug 306 GTi6, he asked if I'd test-driven a Subaru?
I stil remember his words: "But a bit of advice: find out if you can afford one BEFORE you go for a test drive, since afterwards, you'll not be satisfied with anything else!"
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Steve, I think it can be done over the phone to some extent. Ring at a quiet time ie not at the weekend and be very clear that you are in the market to buy this week and not just dreaming.
Tell them if an agreement on price can be reached you will send email confirmation immediately and drive down in the next 48 hours to sign it off.
Make it clear that you want to give them business right now and people usually respond.
Good luck
Tell them if an agreement on price can be reached you will send email confirmation immediately and drive down in the next 48 hours to sign it off.
Make it clear that you want to give them business right now and people usually respond.
Good luck
Do they really care? The wife's A3 is of an age where it will be on the first transporter to the auctions even though it is in great condition.
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I got some quotes online and then told the dealer at Shepshed Ford, what I wanted. I ordered my Fiesta Zetec-S and paid only £80 more than it cost the stealer to buy the car from Ford.
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What about the VAT then? Surely the dealer would have made a huge loss if this was the case or was it £80 over plus the VAT?
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I've posted a thread about it before.
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I didn't get it VAT free. However I actually received 2.5% VAT reductionas I ordered when it was at 17.5% and collected it once VAT was reduced to 15%.
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i.e. Dealer pays £9920 for the car and charges you £10,000 for it. The dealer then owes the taxman £1304.35 (15% vat)
You see? you couldn't have possibly paid £80 more than the dealer paid for it unless vat was added after. i.e £10,000 + VAT
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Salesman is in with you, makes you an offer, you tentantively agree, off he goes to "speak to the manager to OK it".
Comes back, "sorry manager says that won't fly, what about this?" and you agree again, and off he goes again.
When it happened to me I followed him second time he went, gave him time to leave the office, and I was with him.
He said, "What do you think you are doing?"
I said, "Well, if you need to speak to the manger, so do I. I'm not dealing with you any more, I'll deal direct thanks", and walked into the manger's office.
He, of course, had no idea what I was on about........
They just play mind games, but unfortunately, they think everyone is as dim as they are.
Comes back, "sorry manager says that won't fly, what about this?" and you agree again, and off he goes again.
When it happened to me I followed him second time he went, gave him time to leave the office, and I was with him.
He said, "What do you think you are doing?"
I said, "Well, if you need to speak to the manger, so do I. I'm not dealing with you any more, I'll deal direct thanks", and walked into the manger's office.
He, of course, had no idea what I was on about........
They just play mind games, but unfortunately, they think everyone is as dim as they are.
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Salesman is in with you, makes you an offer, you tentantively agree, off he goes to "speak to the manager to OK it".
Comes back, "sorry manager says that won't fly, what about this?" and you agree again, and off he goes again.
When it happened to me I followed him second time he went, gave him time to leave the office, and I was with him.
He said, "What do you think you are doing?"
I said, "Well, if you need to speak to the manger, so do I. I'm not dealing with you any more, I'll deal direct thanks", and walked into the manger's office.
He, of course, had no idea what I was on about........
They just play mind games, but unfortunately, they think everyone is as dim as they are.
Comes back, "sorry manager says that won't fly, what about this?" and you agree again, and off he goes again.
When it happened to me I followed him second time he went, gave him time to leave the office, and I was with him.
He said, "What do you think you are doing?"
I said, "Well, if you need to speak to the manger, so do I. I'm not dealing with you any more, I'll deal direct thanks", and walked into the manger's office.
He, of course, had no idea what I was on about........
They just play mind games, but unfortunately, they think everyone is as dim as they are.
I can picture the scene now...
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No what i mean is.... If the dealer only charged you £80 over the cost price then they would make a huge loss on the VAT that is applicable
i.e. Dealer pays £9920 for the car and charges you £10,000 for it. The dealer then owes the taxman £1304.35 (15% vat)
You see? you couldn't have possibly paid £80 more than the dealer paid for it unless vat was added after. i.e £10,000 + VAT
i.e. Dealer pays £9920 for the car and charges you £10,000 for it. The dealer then owes the taxman £1304.35 (15% vat)
You see? you couldn't have possibly paid £80 more than the dealer paid for it unless vat was added after. i.e £10,000 + VAT
I'll dig out my order form after work tomorrow to see exactly how it was priced.
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Again was the only proof he made £80 profit was that he told you that? If so I think he was telling you a little lie. They wouldn't work for that sort of margin, even to meet sales targets.
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It was sold through the sales chap that dealt with leases. I sorted the deal out for SW. The price paid would be clawed back through other leases. There really wasn't much profit in it, I'm sure it was sold for quite a bit less than list.
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Picky bunch on here tonight. It was less than list, why does it concern you so much? The OP is looking for a deal, he's getting answers from people with experience.
I offered the OP the chance at getting a better deal the last time he was looking at Fiesta's, I don't know if he recalls it or not but it was there.
I offered the OP the chance at getting a better deal the last time he was looking at Fiesta's, I don't know if he recalls it or not but it was there.