spectrum48k

Gentlemen

Switching from SkyHD to TiVo next week and already have a magic eye in the kitchen, which worked with the SkyHD. So all cabling is in place.

I notice the outputs on the TiVo DON'T include an RF/OUT

Question #1
Will the Magic Eye work with Virgin, assuming I have the right equipment?

Question #2
Assuming it will work, what equipment do I need?

Hysteria1983

If my experience with Tivo is like anyone elses... I have trouble getting the remote to work even with it directly infron of the box!!

With the V+ box I could bounce the signal off the walls.

I would do some googling if I were you.

Frosticles

iTrader: (1)

I have a TiVo box and as far as I can tell, it won't work with a "Magic Eye" as Virgin's boxes differ from Sky's as far as this goes.

spectrum48k

Magic Eye is simply and IR receiver that sends the IR info down an RF cable - it has no concept of Sky or TiVo so should deffo work. Just wondering what I need at the TiVo end ?

Ant

It wont work. FACT!

The magic eye needs power which you sky box supplied through the RF2 socket.

Virgin on all there boxes never had this option.

spectrum48k

I don't think it is FACT actually. You just haven't thought it through.

Jamz3k

no its pretty much FACT.

*some of the older Virgin boxes did allow it though.

spectrum48k

To clarify:

To get the Magic Eye to transmit the IR signal back to the source over the coax, you'd add an RF active adapter that will supply any power you need to the line.

To get the IR signal from the RF active adapter into the Virgin box, which someone stated doesn't have the requisite RF socket (Sky box does), I'm guessing there's an IR transmitter that can blast the IR signal to the IR receiver on the box.

Jamz3k

I ain't seeing no RF out.


So how are you going to get the picture in another room?

spectrum48k

Who mentioned anything about getting a picture to another room?

The original question was about getting the Magic Eye to work? The Magic Eye is the component that changes the channel ?

Jamz3k

I did, its a simple question and it may also lead to answer your question. I'll put it simply as Ant has also said a conventional Magic Eye will not work.

Ant

so you come on here asking for advice ,so when someone does come aong who does this for a living and does this day in day out for the last 8 years tells you it won't work.

You then tell him he's wrong ,priceless

This is where my advice stops

spectrum48k

I think you jumped the gun again, when you said:

"A conventional Magic Eye will not work"

perhaps to help others reading this thread for advice you should say

"A conventional Magic Eye will not work, without additional equipment"

Jamz3k

priceless.

spectrum48k

Didn't mean to offend.

Ant

i assume it's because the box is in hiding if so ditch the magic eye and buy something like this
http://www.amazon.co.uk/COMPACT-CONT.../dp/B002DBVQJI

spectrum48k

the box isn't in hiding

want to know if my existing Magic Eye can change channel from TV (kitchen) to TiVo ( living room), using TiVo remote ?

I think it's possible, assuming the TiVo remote uses the normal frequency range. Just wondered if people have already done it and what equipment they used.

markjmd

iTrader: (11)

2 minutes googling tells me that a Sky RF2 connector carries 12v, when the box is configured to output to a Magic Eye, so the answer to the OP's question is very simple - any garden variety power supply for a masthead aerial amplifier should do the job.

spectrum48k

Thanks for the input. We've already established its not a problem getting power to the RF line.

Do you know if the TiVo remote will register with the eye ?

Ant

NO!!! FFS

MAGIC EYE'S ONLY WORK WITH SKY BOXES, IT SENDS THE IR SIGNAL DOWN THE CABLE TO THE SKY BOX THEN IT CHANGES CHANNEL.

YOUR BOX DOESN'T HAVE

A)RF INPUT/OUTPUT
B)SKY LOGO ON THE FRONT

the hamster

iTrader: (7)

It wont, the mA is too high. and a magic eye needs 9v not 12v so you'll fry it.

As Ant has said, a sky magic eye wont work with anything other than a skybox with an power enabled RF2 connection. Feel free to flog it to death in an attempt to get it to work, but it wont.

HDMI splitter, extended hdmi cable and powermid wireless sender is the normal way, or pay £10 extra a month and get a 2nd box.

10 years doing tv/sky/virgin, run my own business etc.

markjmd

iTrader: (11)

If you're referring to the post where you mentioned an "RF active adaptor", then maybe you'd like to elaborate on exactly what you mean by that, and whether you actually have one yet. Otherwise, you will need a source of DC power to your Magic eye, or it ain't gonna do zip.

Jamz3k

the hamster

iTrader: (7)

MAGIC EYES DONT WORK ON 12V!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ITS 9V AND THE RECIEVER NEEDS TO BE CAPABLE OF INTERPRETING THE SIGNAL FROM THE EYE!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ant

it's like banging my head against the wall sometimes

the hamster

iTrader: (7)

I feel your pain Ant!

spectrum48k

Ok, this simply isn't going in for you...let me explain where you're going wrong, in the nicest possible way...

"Magic Eyes Only Work With Sky Boxes"
A Magic Eye is an IR receiver and doesn't care if its a Sky box or not.

"Your box doesn't have an RF I/O"
Correct, so we think laterailly and ask how can we get around this. The answer to to transmit the IR signal to the TiVo's IR receiver

I don't mean to be condescending here, and I'm not trying to to tell you your job but I'm pretty sure a Magic Eye can work with a Tivo, *given the right equipment* and assuming the TiVo remote uses a regular freqiency.

the hamster

iTrader: (7)

in the words of Janice from Friends

"OH MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!!"

Ant

NO IT CAN'T !!

don't wanna be harsh but you don't have a clue.


as for magic eyes, yes they are designed only for sky boxes and nothing else what part of that is difficult to understand?

spectrum48k

I'll be home soon. I'll research it on the net and prove it's doable.

[Bond villain coat on]
THEN YOU'LL REGRET RIDICULING ME, MUHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!

On a more normal, note, I'll check it out, and get back to you.