Mr Jobs certainly didn't like competition did he?
21 October 2011, 11:57 AM
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But Android is open source, how was he ever going to 'destroy' something that is developed as such. The only way to compete would be to make iOS available to all too but as we know that's never going to happen as Apple is very much a closed shop.
Jobs was clearly delusional in the latter stages of his illness.
Makes me like the guy and the company he represents less and less.
Jobs was clearly delusional in the latter stages of his illness.
Makes me like the guy and the company he represents less and less.
21 October 2011, 11:58 AM
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Oh look, another apple vs android thread. Shall we get the usual arguments out of the way? Baaaa, no free will, more money than sense, shiny shiny, Steve jobs is a god etc..
Thread closed, time for a brew!
Thread closed, time for a brew!
21 October 2011, 12:05 PM
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From that article it wasn't the competition he didn't like, it was the deceit of Google and the blatant copying.
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21 October 2011, 12:16 PM
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Mr Mueller was also critical of Eric Schmidt's dual role at the time: "The fact that Eric Schmidt stayed on Apple's board while he was preparing an iOS clone was an inexcusable betrayal of Steve Jobs' trust."
Mr Schmidt resigned from the Apple board in August 2009. He was later quoted by Bloomberg as saying: "I was on the board until I couldn't stay on the board anymore."
Mr Schmidt resigned from the Apple board in August 2009. He was later quoted by Bloomberg as saying: "I was on the board until I couldn't stay on the board anymore."
I think it says a lot about Google more than it does about Jobs.
21 October 2011, 12:21 PM
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The guy was on the board of Apple all the way through iOS development and then suddenly resigns off the board as Google announce Android.
Conflict of interest at best; betrayal and industrial theft at worst.
Conflict of interest at best; betrayal and industrial theft at worst.
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21 October 2011, 12:39 PM
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I don't care either way but it makes Jobs sound like a nutjob hell bent on world domination, directors will always move, patents will always be infringed and I will bet Apple arent above a bit of Skullduggery.
As for until his final breath, he got that wish.
As for until his final breath, he got that wish.
21 October 2011, 12:49 PM
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21 October 2011, 12:58 PM
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. I bet many a CEO has said equal or worse about a competitor, just make sure its behind closed doors!
21 October 2011, 01:17 PM
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Steve's quote from the book:
"I will spend my last dying breath if I need to, and I will spend every penny of Apple's $40 billion in the bank, to right this wrong," Jobs said. "I'm going to destroy Android, because it's a stolen product. I'm willing to go thermonuclear war on this."
Not sure if that is in the BBC article or not. Can't blame him really, Schmidt sat there and knowingly gathered info which he took to Google for Andriod. Yes this no doubt happens elsewhere. Let us imagine this was someone as Microsoft who toddled off to Google, do you think Steve Ballmer's reaction would be any less, actually he'd probably do another office chair throwing scene.
"I will spend my last dying breath if I need to, and I will spend every penny of Apple's $40 billion in the bank, to right this wrong," Jobs said. "I'm going to destroy Android, because it's a stolen product. I'm willing to go thermonuclear war on this."
Not sure if that is in the BBC article or not. Can't blame him really, Schmidt sat there and knowingly gathered info which he took to Google for Andriod. Yes this no doubt happens elsewhere. Let us imagine this was someone as Microsoft who toddled off to Google, do you think Steve Ballmer's reaction would be any less, actually he'd probably do another office chair throwing scene.
21 October 2011, 02:05 PM
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Oh you Apple fan boys make me laugh.
I really couldn't care less. I just thought it was an interesting article and not a trait usually displayed by Mr Jobs.
All those jumping to his defense really, really need to lighten up.
It plastic and wires for f&ck sake!
I really couldn't care less. I just thought it was an interesting article and not a trait usually displayed by Mr Jobs.
All those jumping to his defense really, really need to lighten up.
It plastic and wires for f&ck sake!
21 October 2011, 02:42 PM
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these operating system wars are ridiculous. I don't really see how else a touch screen device can work, they are all going to look similar because the people that use them all have the same fingers.
What about the latest IOS5 which has blatantly copied android for its pull down menu, and notifications that appear up at the top of the screen.
And what about the original LG touch screen which had a menu which Apples original iphone looked strangely familiar too...?
The only thing i think apple are doing right is the galaxy tablet thing....But even then how different can a tablet look?
It's like car companies taking each other to court because they all have 4 wheels and a steering wheel
What about the latest IOS5 which has blatantly copied android for its pull down menu, and notifications that appear up at the top of the screen.
And what about the original LG touch screen which had a menu which Apples original iphone looked strangely familiar too...?
The only thing i think apple are doing right is the galaxy tablet thing....But even then how different can a tablet look?
It's like car companies taking each other to court because they all have 4 wheels and a steering wheel
21 October 2011, 02:49 PM
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You can side with some dodgy Taiwanese/Korean copycats if you like, I'll stick with the innovators that stopped us being German. Shame on you for shunning your allies to save a few quid.
21 October 2011, 07:19 PM
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Android, love it or hate it is catching up and overtaking Apple now, one phone and a proprietary O/S at premium price vs a cast of several all jockeying for position and an open source OS, even the brand loyalty is going now that the competition are now catching and improving, I really dont think things look good for Apple. I am no fanboy and the 4GS is doing well but the number of people I know realising there are options is astounding.
21 October 2011, 09:35 PM
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It's simply history repeating itself, Android is the new "Windows" where the OS is widely adopted by different hardware vendors. Look at the Windows PC vs Mac market share, inevitably the phone market will mirror this.
22 October 2011, 02:45 AM
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If you were to compare iPhone 4 to say, Galaxy S which one has more?
Iphone 3Gs to HTC Hero?
MacBook Pro to top of the range Sony laptop?
22 October 2011, 05:07 AM
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its Macbook Pro (since you are only comparing to the top of the range Sony model, not their entire product line.)
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Exactly this. Both platforms will survive and do rather nicely I'm sure.