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Old 27 January 2012, 08:34 AM
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Think our Government are ashamed to show the British public that they should be pround to be British.

Story that was ran yesterday, but later pulled, and no mention on any of the news chanels.

HMS Daring, that can track 1000 targets at any one time. It can track an object the size of a cricket ball traveling at 3 times the speed of sound. Destroyed 7 missiles that were launched from Iran at an American supertanker.

Do we mention it? No. Why? You'd think that they would advertise that the most advanced ship in the world, that cost £1Billion has done Britain proud.

The Americans would have mentioned it. Why not us?
Old 27 January 2012, 09:01 AM
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Because maybe we don't want to be seen as the aggressors 'again'.

Personally I think the world should leave Iran and America to it.
Old 27 January 2012, 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by stilover
Destroyed 7 missiles that were launched from Iran at an American supertanker.
REALLY.... 7 missiles launched BY IRAN at an american tanker??? Thats an outright declaration of war I would have thought....
Old 27 January 2012, 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by stilover
The Americans would have mentioned it. Why not us?
So did they?

A quick check around international news websites and it's not shown anywhere.
Old 27 January 2012, 09:24 AM
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-backlash.html

Seven Qader missiles were fired without warning at an American-owned supertanker, carrying more than 250,000 tons of oil. The Qader was Iran’s most modern rocket. It had a range of 125 miles, and could sink an aircraft carrier. The moment the missiles were fired cheers broke out in the Iranian Defence Ministry.

Iranian leaders cheered as their Defence Ministry as their missiles launched

HMS Daring was only a fraction the size of the tankers it guarded. Yet its Sea Viper anti-missile defence system was capable of tracking 1,000 targets at any one time. It could detect, acquire and destroy an object the size of a cricket ball, travelling at three times the speed of sound. And a cruise missile is much, much bigger than a cricket ball.

The Qaders were picked up within seconds of their launch. They were each targeted by one of Daring’s 48 ship-to-air missiles and obliterated in mid-air, many miles from their target.

The supertanker sailed on through the Strait of Hormuz without ever knowing that it had ever been in danger.

For reasons of national pride, the Iranians kept quiet about their defeat. The British Government, too, described the incident away as an exercise. No one at No 10 wanted to cause international alarm, or provoke the Iranians any further.

But the hardliners in Iran did not need more provocation. They burned with furious humiliation. They wanted to humble the British, as painfully and publicly as possible.

The Iranian revenge attack began with a number of apparently unconnected, trivial incidents.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz1keJGZvs7

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Old 27 January 2012, 09:28 AM
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Is this all facts?

Im sure lots of things go on that would make us proud of our technology but the fact is, things like this never get shouted at from the roof tops.

Ive always been intrigued as to how they know the destination target. Sure you can guess by the direction but until it starts coming down surely you cant tell?
Old 27 January 2012, 09:37 AM
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Come on fellas...its all in a thriller writers tiny mind!!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-backlash.html
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The whole article reads like this happened a year ago
Old 27 January 2012, 09:42 AM
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Sorry, but I don't buy it. A number of nations are spoling for a reason to attack Iran at the moment and the action you mention above would have given them, or at least the US the green light they need to do so. There are three US carrier groups in the area at the moment, and that is no small amount of hardware. With Iran saying it's going to blockade the Strait of Hormuz due to EU+others sanctions, I'm not sure I'd be booking a holiday in the area anytime soon.
Old 27 January 2012, 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Shaid
Because maybe we don't want to be seen as the aggressors 'again'.

Personally I think the world should leave Iran and America to it.
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Old 27 January 2012, 11:43 AM
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What a story from the Daily Fail, can't wait for the next exciting installment!
Old 27 January 2012, 12:04 PM
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The Fail often post fiction up as news

Here's one they did earlier:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...Falklands.html
Old 27 January 2012, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by SJ_Skyline
The Fail often post fiction up as news

Here's one they did earlier:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...Falklands.html

Loving that article
Old 27 January 2012, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by stilover
Think our Government are ashamed to show the British public that they should be pround to be British.

Story that was ran yesterday, but later pulled, and no mention on any of the news chanels.

HMS Daring, that can track 1000 targets at any one time. It can track an object the size of a cricket ball traveling at 3 times the speed of sound. Destroyed 7 missiles that were launched from Iran at an American supertanker.

Do we mention it? No. Why? You'd think that they would advertise that the most advanced ship in the world, that cost £1Billion has done Britain proud.

The Americans would have mentioned it. Why not us?

What has any of this got to do with 'being proud'?


btw I believe its air defence system is American, or at least based upon the Aegis system

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Old 27 January 2012, 01:49 PM
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Modern politicians are terrified of saying anything like that in case it is taken the wrong way by some PC plonker or other and they have not got the guts to defend what they say.

Useless!

Les
Old 27 January 2012, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
What has any of this got to do with 'being proud'?


btw I believe its air defence system is American, or at least based upon the Aegis system

Rubbish!
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If it had been of American design the countermeasures would have hit the ship, rather than the missles!
Old 27 January 2012, 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by New_scooby_04
Rubbish!
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If it had been of American design the countermeasures would have hit the ship, rather than the missles!

or blasted another Iranian passenger jet from the sky
Old 27 January 2012, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by what would scooby do
or blasted another Iranian passenger jet from the sky


Ps How's things at Lashkar Ga?
Old 27 January 2012, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Einstein RA


Ps How's things at Lashkar Ga?
Safer than brixton
Old 27 January 2012, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by SJ_Skyline
The Fail often post fiction up as news

Here's one they did earlier:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...Falklands.html
That 'What If' Falklands article is the biggest crock of **** i've ever read...lol
Old 28 January 2012, 07:42 PM
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probably a celeb got a tit job or something to take the front pages lol,

seriosly how the fck is the daily mail still allowed to operate? how can that be?
Old 28 January 2012, 10:54 PM
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the page doesn't make it very clear but it is the author 'imagining'

this is how the actual link reads ..........

ww.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2091927/Iran-nuclear-threat-Top-thriller-writer-Tom-Cain-imagines-terrifying-terrorist-backlash.html


alan

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Old 28 January 2012, 11:21 PM
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i never ever ever buy the daily mail

but its constantly referred to on this forum, as im sure it is on others

never bought a copy in my life.
its the ridiculous headlines that sell it, but its total bullsh*t a lot of the time, i understand its the wild sensationalist headlines tha sell it, but how are they allowwed to carry on publishing here-say, half truths and sometimes blatant lies without reprecussion??
media corporations need to be, not for profit set ups, earn only whats needed to keep the buisness running, any money raised over and above donated to charities

aslong as there run for total and utter greed, the education of the nation will remain skewed and biased to whoever provides the largest bung or financial incentive.
Old 29 January 2012, 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by jef
i never ever ever buy the daily mail

but its constantly referred to on this forum, as im sure it is on others

never bought a copy in my life.
its the ridiculous headlines that sell it, but its total bullsh*t a lot of the time, i understand its the wild sensationalist headlines tha sell it, but how are they allowwed to carry on publishing here-say, half truths and sometimes blatant lies without reprecussion??
media corporations need to be, not for profit set ups, earn only whats needed to keep the buisness running, any money raised over and above donated to charities

aslong as there run for total and utter greed, the education of the nation will remain skewed and biased to whoever provides the largest bung or financial incentive.
If they're restricted to simply reporting the 'news', who will it be that restricts them? And of what will this 'news' consist?

Who will be the divine arbiter of objective wisdom?
Old 29 January 2012, 01:45 AM
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Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Old 29 January 2012, 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Leslie
Modern politicians are terrified of saying anything like that in case it is taken the wrong way by some PC plonker or other and they have not got the guts to defend what they say.

Useless!

Les
Les - for all your virtue, your obsession with 'PC Plonkers' is quite hilarious
Old 29 January 2012, 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by jef
media corporations need to be, not for profit set ups, earn only whats needed to keep the buisness running, any money raised over and above donated to charities
I think most newspaper proprietors will tell you that print media is already a not for profit set up and they would be better giving their money to charity


Originally Posted by JTaylor
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Custodientes vigilias illi qui custodes
Old 29 January 2012, 08:04 AM
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I thought us Brits were supposed to be propa clever ?

That Daily Mail piece is a work of fiction


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