Pakistan the most deranged country on the planet?
08 September 2012, 07:53 AM
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Pakistan the most deranged country on the planet?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-19498970
It beggars belief
not only are they the most corrupt nation on the planet but they also murder people for saying things about their religion. So now it's a child they are persecuting and one who 'may' have mental health issues and who also may have had the 'evidence' planted on her by a Muslim cleric. Nice.
Government ministers have been murdered just for suggesting the blasphemy laws be looked at
And this is a country that has nuclear weapons ffs. I find Pakistan more of a worry than North Korea letting extremist Islamic nutters have nuclear weapons especially when they sponsor terrorists such as Lashkar-e-Taiba and harbour al Qaeda.
I will add i'm not suggesting all the World's Muslims are nutjobs, just those who reside in extremist countries such as Pakistan who think blasphemy is punishable by death
It beggars belief
not only are they the most corrupt nation on the planet but they also murder people for saying things about their religion. So now it's a child they are persecuting and one who 'may' have mental health issues and who also may have had the 'evidence' planted on her by a Muslim cleric. Nice.Government ministers have been murdered just for suggesting the blasphemy laws be looked at
And this is a country that has nuclear weapons ffs. I find Pakistan more of a worry than North Korea letting extremist Islamic nutters have nuclear weapons especially when they sponsor terrorists such as Lashkar-e-Taiba and harbour al Qaeda.
I will add i'm not suggesting all the World's Muslims are nutjobs, just those who reside in extremist countries such as Pakistan who think blasphemy is punishable by death
08 September 2012, 08:21 AM
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Well it definitely is a country of extremes. Having a few Pakistani friends I have asked them similar questions. They themselves are as educated, liberal minded and free thinking as anybody else you would meet.
They tell me the country is to some extent divided into the educated, wealthy and liberal elite and then the more backward thinking religious extremists. In the areas my friends live you would never see a woman wearing one of those ninja outfits, they'll be wearing jeans and a t shirt.
A lot of the religious extremists are being influenced by Saudi Arabia. Saudi funds religious schools and mosques all over the world to spread what some would say is a more backward and oppressive interpretation of Islam.
God only knows what will become of this country!
They tell me the country is to some extent divided into the educated, wealthy and liberal elite and then the more backward thinking religious extremists. In the areas my friends live you would never see a woman wearing one of those ninja outfits, they'll be wearing jeans and a t shirt.
A lot of the religious extremists are being influenced by Saudi Arabia. Saudi funds religious schools and mosques all over the world to spread what some would say is a more backward and oppressive interpretation of Islam.
God only knows what will become of this country!
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08 September 2012, 05:33 PM
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Well it definitely is a country of extremes. Having a few Pakistani friends I have asked them similar questions. They themselves are as educated, liberal minded and free thinking as anybody else you would meet.
They tell me the country is to some extent divided into the educated, wealthy and liberal elite and then the more backward thinking religious extremists. In the areas my friends live you would never see a woman wearing one of those ninja outfits, they'll be wearing jeans and a t shirt.
A lot of the religious extremists are being influenced by Saudi Arabia. Saudi funds religious schools and mosques all over the world to spread what some would say is a more backward and oppressive interpretation of Islam.
God only knows what will become of this country!
They tell me the country is to some extent divided into the educated, wealthy and liberal elite and then the more backward thinking religious extremists. In the areas my friends live you would never see a woman wearing one of those ninja outfits, they'll be wearing jeans and a t shirt.
A lot of the religious extremists are being influenced by Saudi Arabia. Saudi funds religious schools and mosques all over the world to spread what some would say is a more backward and oppressive interpretation of Islam.
God only knows what will become of this country!
08 September 2012, 08:30 PM
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Rural Pakistan seems to be not a million miles away from Europe in the Dark ages, makes me wonder how many people are actually that zealous about Islam in term of belief and how many are eager to show their devotion to their peers and superiors to curry (no pun intended) favour at any cost, "I am considerably more pious than Yow", when your whole belief system involves death if you question it, it is no wonder that people tow the line and perpetuate it, if Islam were the one, true way it would stand up to any scrutiny, criticism and ridicule, as it is it feels like a load of men trying to control others, well the whole world via fear, all religion should involve belief and choice, there doesn't appear to be a choice in Pakistan, not one without consequence anyway, brainwashing and repression seem to suffice.
"Silence, I kill you", is not a valid response to every perceived threat, criticism or jibe, either ignore, reply intelligently to make a point or STFU.
"Silence, I kill you", is not a valid response to every perceived threat, criticism or jibe, either ignore, reply intelligently to make a point or STFU.
08 September 2012, 11:16 PM
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Lol, they've been doing the same backwards sh*te in that part of the world for a long time. You think because America builds a few bases it suddenly makes them stone their wives to death?
09 September 2012, 06:40 AM
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Sounds a great place to visit, the FCO advice on Pakistan http://www.fco.gov.uk/en/travel-and-...eania/pakistan
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Much of our Consular assistance is provided to victims of forced marriage or international parental child abduction.
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09 September 2012, 08:36 AM
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Also, where you check the stats on google searches, it's interesting that all the sickest stuff is most frequently googled in Pakistan! Yet the majority of its inhabitants claim to live by very strict rules which don't even allow them to think about such things. What should we believe - the google stats or a bunch of sexually repressed religious nuts?
09 September 2012, 11:59 AM
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I'm not even from Pakistan but what happened to equal opportunities isn't David camroon also corrupted? I'm surprised David camroons stunt didn't make front pages everywhere amazing how it's all swept under the carpets now!
I'm not saying all British or Pakistani politicians are curropted but there's always a few bad apples.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...-forced-773309
I'm not saying all British or Pakistani politicians are curropted but there's always a few bad apples.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...-forced-773309
09 September 2012, 01:54 PM
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Drug Dealers Vs Drug Warlords
Interesting topic but I think we need to bear in mind a few things -
1 - Pakistan is a country only 60 years old, left in a looted state after hundreds of years of British Colonial rule.
2 - We should never judge an entire religion based solely on the crazy element of its society. Is Anders Behring Breivik a true representative of Christian people?. How would we feel if the media constantly said he was?
3 - Corruption is rife everywhere, it's just some countries have mastered the art of covering their tracks better.
4 - Are we getting our news from the same source that told us Iraq had MOD's? How come private weapons manufacturers and Halliburton style companies make so much money from War, whilst civilians suffer? Is it beneficial to some of the world's elite that run these corporations?
5 - Is it this same information source that is giving Drone attacks in Pakistan a thumbs up? on innocent civilians?
6 - How would we react to a Drone attack on our family?
7 - War is good for business, not for people.
8 - Pakistan has lost more civilian lives to the War on Terror, than any other country, by a country mile.
9 - Who really created these extremists in the first place? History tells us The Mujahadeen who became the Taliban were trained, funded and practically created by America during Afghanistan's resistance to the Russians. Their objective wasn't any less visible back then.
10 - Pakistan harboured Bin Laden apparently. America has and does harbour many terrorists wanted for extradition including Emmanuel Constant.
11 - Yes many have died in Pakistan from suicide attacks. Should we compare how many died in Iraq from a false claim of MOD's?
12 - Which country is more dangerous on a whole? The one that violates international law to destroy other countries, or the one that destroys its own country? It's a viable debate.
I'm not saying Pakistan does not have any dangers, I'm just saying lets understand some history, perspective, and acknowledge the situation on a whole.
Just like the "War on Drugs" - Let's not blame (like the bias media) the the drug dealers on the street, lets find out who the (press-exempt) damn drug lords are.
1 - Pakistan is a country only 60 years old, left in a looted state after hundreds of years of British Colonial rule.
2 - We should never judge an entire religion based solely on the crazy element of its society. Is Anders Behring Breivik a true representative of Christian people?. How would we feel if the media constantly said he was?
3 - Corruption is rife everywhere, it's just some countries have mastered the art of covering their tracks better.
4 - Are we getting our news from the same source that told us Iraq had MOD's? How come private weapons manufacturers and Halliburton style companies make so much money from War, whilst civilians suffer? Is it beneficial to some of the world's elite that run these corporations?
5 - Is it this same information source that is giving Drone attacks in Pakistan a thumbs up? on innocent civilians?
6 - How would we react to a Drone attack on our family?
7 - War is good for business, not for people.
8 - Pakistan has lost more civilian lives to the War on Terror, than any other country, by a country mile.
9 - Who really created these extremists in the first place? History tells us The Mujahadeen who became the Taliban were trained, funded and practically created by America during Afghanistan's resistance to the Russians. Their objective wasn't any less visible back then.
10 - Pakistan harboured Bin Laden apparently. America has and does harbour many terrorists wanted for extradition including Emmanuel Constant.
11 - Yes many have died in Pakistan from suicide attacks. Should we compare how many died in Iraq from a false claim of MOD's?
12 - Which country is more dangerous on a whole? The one that violates international law to destroy other countries, or the one that destroys its own country? It's a viable debate.
I'm not saying Pakistan does not have any dangers, I'm just saying lets understand some history, perspective, and acknowledge the situation on a whole.
Just like the "War on Drugs" - Let's not blame (like the bias media) the the drug dealers on the street, lets find out who the (press-exempt) damn drug lords are.
09 September 2012, 09:41 PM
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09 September 2012, 09:48 PM
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Interesting topic but I think we need to bear in mind a few things -
1 - Pakistan is a country only 60 years old, left in a looted state after hundreds of years of British Colonial rule.
2 - We should never judge an entire religion based solely on the crazy element of its society. Is Anders Behring Breivik a true representative of Christian people?. How would we feel if the media constantly said he was?
3 - Corruption is rife everywhere, it's just some countries have mastered the art of covering their tracks better.
4 - Are we getting our news from the same source that told us Iraq had MOD's? How come private weapons manufacturers and Halliburton style companies make so much money from War, whilst civilians suffer? Is it beneficial to some of the world's elite that run these corporations?
5 - Is it this same information source that is giving Drone attacks in Pakistan a thumbs up? on innocent civilians?
6 - How would we react to a Drone attack on our family?
7 - War is good for business, not for people.
8 - Pakistan has lost more civilian lives to the War on Terror, than any other country, by a country mile.
9 - Who really created these extremists in the first place? History tells us The Mujahadeen who became the Taliban were trained, funded and practically created by America during Afghanistan's resistance to the Russians. Their objective wasn't any less visible back then.
10 - Pakistan harboured Bin Laden apparently. America has and does harbour many terrorists wanted for extradition including Emmanuel Constant.
11 - Yes many have died in Pakistan from suicide attacks. Should we compare how many died in Iraq from a false claim of MOD's?
12 - Which country is more dangerous on a whole? The one that violates international law to destroy other countries, or the one that destroys its own country? It's a viable debate.
I'm not saying Pakistan does not have any dangers, I'm just saying lets understand some history, perspective, and acknowledge the situation on a whole.
Just like the "War on Drugs" - Let's not blame (like the bias media) the the drug dealers on the street, lets find out who the (press-exempt) damn drug lords are.
1 - Pakistan is a country only 60 years old, left in a looted state after hundreds of years of British Colonial rule.
2 - We should never judge an entire religion based solely on the crazy element of its society. Is Anders Behring Breivik a true representative of Christian people?. How would we feel if the media constantly said he was?
3 - Corruption is rife everywhere, it's just some countries have mastered the art of covering their tracks better.
4 - Are we getting our news from the same source that told us Iraq had MOD's? How come private weapons manufacturers and Halliburton style companies make so much money from War, whilst civilians suffer? Is it beneficial to some of the world's elite that run these corporations?
5 - Is it this same information source that is giving Drone attacks in Pakistan a thumbs up? on innocent civilians?
6 - How would we react to a Drone attack on our family?
7 - War is good for business, not for people.
8 - Pakistan has lost more civilian lives to the War on Terror, than any other country, by a country mile.
9 - Who really created these extremists in the first place? History tells us The Mujahadeen who became the Taliban were trained, funded and practically created by America during Afghanistan's resistance to the Russians. Their objective wasn't any less visible back then.
10 - Pakistan harboured Bin Laden apparently. America has and does harbour many terrorists wanted for extradition including Emmanuel Constant.
11 - Yes many have died in Pakistan from suicide attacks. Should we compare how many died in Iraq from a false claim of MOD's?
12 - Which country is more dangerous on a whole? The one that violates international law to destroy other countries, or the one that destroys its own country? It's a viable debate.
I'm not saying Pakistan does not have any dangers, I'm just saying lets understand some history, perspective, and acknowledge the situation on a whole.
Just like the "War on Drugs" - Let's not blame (like the bias media) the the drug dealers on the street, lets find out who the (press-exempt) damn drug lords are.
10 September 2012, 11:41 AM
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The side you won't see
OP also fails to mention that a imam has been arrested for framing the young girl. OP also fails to mention the support said girl has received in Pakistan itself.
The side you won't see
OP also fails to mention that a imam has been arrested for framing the young girl. OP also fails to mention the support said girl has received in Pakistan itself.
10 September 2012, 11:56 AM
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10 September 2012, 12:09 PM
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The side you won't see
OP also fails to mention that a imam has been arrested for framing the young girl. OP also fails to mention the support said girl has received in Pakistan itself.
The side you won't see
OP also fails to mention that a imam has been arrested for framing the young girl. OP also fails to mention the support said girl has received in Pakistan itself.
and who also may have had the 'evidence' planted on her by a Muslim cleric.
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10 September 2012, 12:40 PM
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The fact that the naughty Imam has been arrested by the Pakistani authorities for what he done = not good enough for you. Maybe they should have given him a job in the PMs office instead. Your blind (and ignorant) hatred of Pakistani's has seriously skewed your judgement hence you are unable to appreciate right yet tough decisions.
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Anyway forget Churches of Pakistan let's look at some of the better pictures from such a deranged place
OMG snow in the desert!
Terrorists are camping
I think this is where the deranged locals get thier water from
This is where some of the terrorists pray. I've been there. I saw kittens trying to run up it. There are rubber shoe marks up the sides from where kids (ahem possibly me too) try climbing up the sides. The minarets are like rockets. They are all pointing to different parts of the world. New York, London, Washington and Doncaster IIRC. They are to symbolise the Talibans bid to take over the world.
Terrorists about to evil slaughter the local cows
Random wannabe terrorist
More deranged pics later mate
OMG snow in the desert!
Terrorists are camping
I think this is where the deranged locals get thier water from
This is where some of the terrorists pray. I've been there. I saw kittens trying to run up it. There are rubber shoe marks up the sides from where kids (ahem possibly me too) try climbing up the sides. The minarets are like rockets. They are all pointing to different parts of the world. New York, London, Washington and Doncaster IIRC. They are to symbolise the Talibans bid to take over the world.
Terrorists about to evil slaughter the local cows
Random wannabe terrorist
More deranged pics later mate
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