dpb

Or do we? Just seen Boateng interview on channel 4

We were in Zambia Feb and going back this Jan, the place is alive with Chinese building roads, can we not compete ?? This is one of the fastest growing economies in the world right now.

jazzyjembreaze

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^
Your having a laugh arnt you
Fastest growing population more like ,
We tried to stem that in the 80's by dropping 10,000,000 condoms
On them , but they put them on the wrong head .
Mind you china ain't far behind in the breeding stakes ,

If you know of 50,000 Brits that will the equivalent of the M1
For a bowl of rice a day / then yeah , we might get the contract

dpb

Really ? I thought china were still relatively keen on controlling birth rate?

A bowl of rice could well be better than nothing in twenty years time the way we're going

kingofturds

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I thought we did before they kicked the white devil out of Africa.

jazzyjembreaze

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That's why they are keen to control / ov course china is huge in mass & if you include sub cultures it's frightening .
It's got to be 1000- 1 Brit
There's your answer

dpb

As I say , we're missing out, the white devil would be welcomed back in preference

mrmadcap

China are after the raw materials to underpin their industrial capability.

davegtt

The company who I work for are undergoing a massive project in Tangiers, Morocco. So it is happening, think it depends on what sort of business you are in.

Personally think we may as well stay away from Africa in general, they'll only ruin any good that gets invested in the countries knowing how corrupt all the leaders are. Can help a continent that can't help itself. Might sound small minded but it's the toilet of the world and no amount of money is going to change that

dpb

Sorry don't believe it. , its an engendered mindset

TelBoy

Ov


Why????????????

JTaylor

What is this drivel?

TelBoy

You're only picking on that post from dpb..??!!

dpb

What..???

David Lock

The Chinese stuff in Africa is Chinese funded and, probably, with huge backhanders.

UK can't compete with that. But UK does go for other aid funded projects but it's a competitive market.

dl

davegtt

What

dpb

When they find out how little in return they're getting they'll be looking elsewhere

David Lock

There's all they need in Africa. And they can get the rest from S America.

dl

dpb

This is it they're only intrested in the minerals ,in exchange for few roads , it's still the indians only that are remaining.

Dr Hu

Yes - China is pouring vast quantities of money into Africa for two primary reasons....

A - Mineral Wealth
B - Africa is the last untapped cheap labour market left on earth.

The chinese labour market is slowly realising western ambitions & lifestyles... therefore wages will inevitably rise slowly in line with Western rates.

Africa is still untapped as a labour market, the chinese will move their manufacturing there, as we moved ours to China....

There was very interesting program one evening on R4 about this.
The chinese are simply speculating to accumulate

dpb

So why can't we move our manufacturing back there

mamoon2

I say we invade again and reclaim the empire

dpb

Interesting example my girlfriends niece was producing large amount free range chickens to sell from her premises to sell on. Then some chinkie ( no disrespect ) starts massive battery farm down the road, and of course they're cheaper and people have to buy them

boxst

Because Africa is a huge mess. Corruption all over the place, lack of infrastructure, governments that cannot and more specifically do not want to help the general populous.

David Lock

Exactly. Add to that a largely uneducated population and wars all over the place.

There may be scope for agricultural development with UK interests but then it stops raining for two years and your screwed.

I think in a decade or so they might wake up to using solar power for energy - for desal' plants etc. And energy for refrigeration and water extraction in the sticks would be of huge benefit to all.


dl

The Trooper 1815

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The billions in Aid don't count then?

fitzscoob

Some industries are already out there. De La Rue, a big security print company (prints your passports and some currencies) has a big place in Kenya. Assuming it hasnt been burnt down yet.

The factory in High Wycombe was sacreficed for this business move.

Dr Hu

Exactly as I said - Africa is the last untapped cheap labour resource on the planet.

The Trooper 1815

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/ar...rseas-aid.html

dpb

Were we not investing in yugoslavia before they started hacking each other to pieces?

The Trooper 1815

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Or now either.