Gov u-turn. No. 435 In a never ending series
03 October 2012, 09:17 AM
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Gov u-turn. No. 435 In a never ending series
Railways this time
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-19809717
Obviously something was going to come out the woodwork when Branson took them to court. So the Government caved in and said "eeerrr , yeah, err we made a mistake" Rather than get exposed in court as cosying up their chums at First Direct.
What a bunch of clowns. At least when Labour get back in in 2015 we will have properly run public services.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-19809717
Obviously something was going to come out the woodwork when Branson took them to court. So the Government caved in and said "eeerrr , yeah, err we made a mistake" Rather than get exposed in court as cosying up their chums at First Direct.
Originally Posted by BBC
When the franchise was handed to First Group the then Transport Secretary Justine Greening insisted the government would push on with a process it insisted had been robust and fair - in the face of angry objections by Virgin, the Labour Party and the thousands of people who signed a petition calling for the bid to be reconsidered.
She lost her job in the reshuffle. The new Transport Secretary, Patrick McLoughlin, told the Commons as recently as 12 September he was satisfied all bids were considered fairly and with "due diligence".
Now, the day before Virgin's High Court legal challenge was due to start, the Department of Transport has admitted to "completely unacceptable mistakes."
She lost her job in the reshuffle. The new Transport Secretary, Patrick McLoughlin, told the Commons as recently as 12 September he was satisfied all bids were considered fairly and with "due diligence".
Now, the day before Virgin's High Court legal challenge was due to start, the Department of Transport has admitted to "completely unacceptable mistakes."
03 October 2012, 10:25 AM
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This is a complete debacle by any standards. Funny that they released the news when media were mostly reporting on Labour conference 
I bet Justine Greening is pleased she was moved out of the department. Industry insiders say that even Branson's bid was far too generous.
But a question. Branson, and all the others, will get back the cost of bidding which could be around £50m. But how on earth can it cost £10m plus to put a bid in? Sure it's a complicated tender but it's mostly number crunching isn't it?
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I bet Justine Greening is pleased she was moved out of the department. Industry insiders say that even Branson's bid was far too generous.
But a question. Branson, and all the others, will get back the cost of bidding which could be around £50m. But how on earth can it cost £10m plus to put a bid in? Sure it's a complicated tender but it's mostly number crunching isn't it?
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03 October 2012, 05:50 PM
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Railways this time
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-19809717
Obviously something was going to come out the woodwork when Branson took them to court. So the Government caved in and said "eeerrr , yeah, err we made a mistake" Rather than get exposed in court as cosying up their chums at First Direct.
What a bunch of clowns. At least when Labour get back in in 2015 we will have properly run public services.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-19809717
Obviously something was going to come out the woodwork when Branson took them to court. So the Government caved in and said "eeerrr , yeah, err we made a mistake" Rather than get exposed in court as cosying up their chums at First Direct.
What a bunch of clowns. At least when Labour get back in in 2015 we will have properly run public services.
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03 October 2012, 06:09 PM
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Mickey Mouse Government ...
Can't even run a bidding contract right!!
I refer,of course, to the Rail Franchise Fiasco!!
£40million bill to you and I ... as the Government couldn't run a sweet shop!!
Let's get this shambolic, out of touch, Government OUT NOW!!!
I refer,of course, to the Rail Franchise Fiasco!!
£40million bill to you and I ... as the Government couldn't run a sweet shop!!
Let's get this shambolic, out of touch, Government OUT NOW!!!
03 October 2012, 06:23 PM
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03 October 2012, 06:34 PM
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I don't think the DOT made 'mistake'. Some form of corruption or fraud was/is going on, this alleged mistake is just someone covering their ***** becuase they've been found out IMO.
I just need to wait for a whistle blower to sell their story.
LMAO 
I just need to wait for a whistle blower to sell their story.
At least when Labour get back in in 2015 we will have properly run public services.
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03 October 2012, 06:47 PM
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And Labour spent wisely?
Here's just a few for starters.
M.P's pay and perks - £178 million
Natural environment enjoyment - £95 million.
Refurbing Audit commission offices - £80 million
Financing Gypsie sites accross UK - £38.4 million
Aid to be distributed via EU - £1.6 billion
Reducing povety in Asia (which is seeing economic growth) - £1.3 billion
National measurements office - £148.7 million
Aid to sub saharan Africa - £2.5 billion
pensions for judges - £267.3 million
pensions of whitehall civil servants - £14 billion
Royal pensions - £5.6 million
Kew Gardens -£68.3 million
Natural England QUANGO - £442 million
2011 census - £87 million.
£1 in every £5 paid in Council Tax pays for civil servants pensions.
£111 million in consultants and outsourcing.
£75,000 on a sculpture bought by theHome and Communities Agency
£84,000 on BUPA for officials
£12,975 HPA flower bill
Here's just a few for starters.
M.P's pay and perks - £178 million
Natural environment enjoyment - £95 million.
Refurbing Audit commission offices - £80 million
Financing Gypsie sites accross UK - £38.4 million
Aid to be distributed via EU - £1.6 billion
Reducing povety in Asia (which is seeing economic growth) - £1.3 billion
National measurements office - £148.7 million
Aid to sub saharan Africa - £2.5 billion
pensions for judges - £267.3 million
pensions of whitehall civil servants - £14 billion
Royal pensions - £5.6 million
Kew Gardens -£68.3 million
Natural England QUANGO - £442 million
2011 census - £87 million.
£1 in every £5 paid in Council Tax pays for civil servants pensions.
£111 million in consultants and outsourcing.
£75,000 on a sculpture bought by theHome and Communities Agency
£84,000 on BUPA for officials
£12,975 HPA flower bill
03 October 2012, 06:48 PM
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They coulden't run a fuclking bath let alone public services or even a country, have you forgot the complete horses ar$e they made of it last time round?!?!
03 October 2012, 06:55 PM
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Ooooops, didn't see the other thread ... I thought it was about a U Turn - this is just simply an utter ***** up.
As an aside, in answer to David Lock, yes, I am 'just so important'!!
As an aside, in answer to David Lock, yes, I am 'just so important'!!
03 October 2012, 07:15 PM
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Pontificating
Give him his own sub forum and ban him from all of the others, if anyone wants to entertain Peter they know where to go, you could call it the Peter Files
Er hold on a moment, probably not the best name for a sub forum as you'd be over subscribed before you knew it....
Er hold on a moment, probably not the best name for a sub forum as you'd be over subscribed before you knew it....
03 October 2012, 09:05 PM
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PETE hearing aid turn it to position t chap. it was cival servants that cocked up costing up 40million not mp's oh and for the record the same people were doing the same jobs when you beloved mr brown was in charge , same **** up's then just on a larger scale
03 October 2012, 10:36 PM
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And Labour spent wisely?
Here's just a few for starters.
M.P's pay and perks - £178 million
Natural environment enjoyment - £95 million.
Refurbing Audit commission offices - £80 million
Financing Gypsie sites accross UK - £38.4 million
Aid to be distributed via EU - £1.6 billion
Reducing povety in Asia (which is seeing economic growth) - £1.3 billion
National measurements office - £148.7 million
Aid to sub saharan Africa - £2.5 billion
pensions for judges - £267.3 million
pensions of whitehall civil servants - £14 billion
Royal pensions - £5.6 million
Kew Gardens -£68.3 million
Natural England QUANGO - £442 million
2011 census - £87 million.
£1 in every £5 paid in Council Tax pays for civil servants pensions.
£111 million in consultants and outsourcing.
£75,000 on a sculpture bought by theHome and Communities Agency
£84,000 on BUPA for officials
£12,975 HPA flower bill
Here's just a few for starters.
M.P's pay and perks - £178 million
Natural environment enjoyment - £95 million.
Refurbing Audit commission offices - £80 million
Financing Gypsie sites accross UK - £38.4 million
Aid to be distributed via EU - £1.6 billion
Reducing povety in Asia (which is seeing economic growth) - £1.3 billion
National measurements office - £148.7 million
Aid to sub saharan Africa - £2.5 billion
pensions for judges - £267.3 million
pensions of whitehall civil servants - £14 billion
Royal pensions - £5.6 million
Kew Gardens -£68.3 million
Natural England QUANGO - £442 million
2011 census - £87 million.
£1 in every £5 paid in Council Tax pays for civil servants pensions.
£111 million in consultants and outsourcing.
£75,000 on a sculpture bought by theHome and Communities Agency
£84,000 on BUPA for officials
£12,975 HPA flower bill
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