ReallyReallyGoodMeat

The MCB has come out saying it's against Sharia for Muslim players to wear the new Newcastle Utd shirt with the Wonga.com sponsorship logo.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...haria-law.html

I can't think of an example off the top of my head, but would this also preclude sportsmen and women wearing, say, banking sponsorship? RBS, Barclays, Santander, etc.?

PeteBrant

Possibly. But then you could argue that Barclays etc provide a banking service, whereas Wonga specifically profit from money lending and serve no other purpose. But i'm guessing.

Of more interest was this:

Interest free mortgage? I'm converting

Moley

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Why didn't they kick off (if you'll excuse the pun) about Wonga sponsoring Blackpool FC and Hearts FC for the last few years?

ReallyReallyGoodMeat

Don't they just add on the compounded interest as a lump sum at the start of the term to 'get around' the interest payment? i.e. it's a MAHOOSIVE mortgage?

PeteBrant

Cos they don't have an Islamic players?

ReallyReallyGoodMeat

Maybe they had no Muslim players? Just guessin'. But Newcastle has four.

PeteBrant

I was just chatting to someone about this. Apparently its all in thr wording. Instead of interest they effectively make a "thankyou" payment for getting lent the money.

I wonder if I could convert and not be very thankful

ReallyReallyGoodMeat

So as long as it's not called 'interest' then it's Sharia?! That sounds like a fudge of the highest order! At the end of the day the bank is still profiting from lending money, so it's breaking the spirit of Sharia no?

PeteBrant

Basically yes, as far as I understand it. I guess they have to work some way around it.

Whoever said religion had to make sense

RA Dunk

As we don't practice Sharia law in this country and are not likely to in the near future who actually gives a toss? those who are moaning about something as trivial as this really need to give their heads a good ******* shake!

cster

Presumably people who wish to observe Sharia law.
Not me though - Allah forbid!

JTaylor

We're talking about a political movement, an ideology, a legal system sliding in under the cloak of religion. The sooner you and people like you get this the better. You're useful idiots. It's Islam being discussed. Islam, Islam, Islam.

speye91

Well,I'm pleased we got St Jame's Park back, and the MCB can go suck on my Pork sword.

Player's never complained when they played with Virgin money on the strips.

New shirt prices have been announced £39.99 or £358.99 payable over 12 months installments.

urban

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Who cares.
We are not governed by Sharia law, so they can go take a running jump as far as I'm concerned.

fivetide

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All the big banks here offer Sharia compatible mortgages.

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L.J.F

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Last time I checked this was the UK and we have our own laws, sharia law is not apart of that and as such should not be considered.

Gear Head

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Spot on.

f1_fan

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EFA

urban

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Wonder how that whole setup stands up in the great scheme of things.

TelBoy

In what way?

TelBoy

Alan Pardew has just been reported as telling his players not to worry about the fuss surrounding the Wonga sponsorship deal, and instead concentrate on giving 4,251% on the pitch

urban

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Well a quick search seem to reveal that the banks buy the house, and then sell it to the person at a profit.
But, the persons name is registered on the goods from day 1, but they provide some kind of collateral.
They cannot be charged fees either.

Now here's how I see it.
That law does not permit interest charges/fees etc.
So house A is being sold for 100K
They prefer to pay 200K for the same house of say 15 years, rather than paying a certain amount for 15 years?

Very weird, because they're still paying 'fees' at the end of the day.

ReallyReallyGoodMeat

And to Urban, yes that's what Pete and I were getting at earlier in the thread - it's not called 'interest' so it's okay!

TelBoy

Various schemes around as far as i'm aware, all to accomodate the Islamic rule that you cannot charge interest on a loan. But as you say, it just ends up being the equivalent of that at the end of the day, but hey, what do us mere mortals understand.

fivetide

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Part of the tradition was the whole family would pool money to buy property.

So everyone would put in to buy the first son a house, then the second etc, each eventually gettign their money back (I think this is the way it worked). Daughters are married off to the sons who have got this sort of support.

It's fairly medevial in approach but it does mean that islamic families are generally a lot closer than most.

5t.

Dirk Diggler 75

Yup ..

Shaid

MCB should **** off! All they are good at doing is creating more **** for Muzzies to deal with.

PeteBrant

Course it should. its not a criminal law matter. Its a religious group commenting on a religious matter. Nothing to do with the laws of the country.

No different to Jonathon Edwards initially refusing to compete on a Sunday.

Martin2005

Who said that this was/is/ or is going to be the law?????

Unless we should put in laws that forbid different parts of our society having traditions and concepts of their own?

SwissTony

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is it cos I am black.....and white