Doctors do like to medicate..
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My wife on Saturday hurt her back. Didn't do anything specific, just got up and 'Ow!' and then was on the floor.
Good service from the NHS, a Doctor came out a little while later. And gave her an injection of Voltarol, Voltarol suppositories, diazepam tablets and Morphine suspended in liquid! Wow.
Yesterday she was suitably knocked out and incoherent to the world and today I think we will stop all of that as most of those things are VERY serious medication.
Good service from the NHS, a Doctor came out a little while later. And gave her an injection of Voltarol, Voltarol suppositories, diazepam tablets and Morphine suspended in liquid! Wow.
Yesterday she was suitably knocked out and incoherent to the world and today I think we will stop all of that as most of those things are VERY serious medication.
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My wife on Saturday hurt her back. Didn't do anything specific, just got up and 'Ow!' and then was on the floor.
Good service from the NHS, a Doctor came out a little while later. And gave her an injection of Voltarol, Voltarol suppositories, diazepam tablets and Morphine suspended in liquid! Wow.
Yesterday she was suitably knocked out and incoherent to the world and today I think we will stop all of that as most of those things are VERY serious medication.
Good service from the NHS, a Doctor came out a little while later. And gave her an injection of Voltarol, Voltarol suppositories, diazepam tablets and Morphine suspended in liquid! Wow.
Yesterday she was suitably knocked out and incoherent to the world and today I think we will stop all of that as most of those things are VERY serious medication.
So you called the GP out because your wife was in so much pain she couldn't wait until Monday to visit the surgery? So the doctor gives her drugs to help you with it.
If she is in pain give her the drugs, if she isn't don't. It really is that simples, it's got nothing with doctors 'liking to medicate'
His approach to pain relief is actually refreshingly good for a GP. He has applied what's called 'multimodal analgesia' ie different drugs that work on different parts of the pain pathway to get the best pain relief with the least doses
1) Voltarol. Anti inflammatory
2) Diazepam. 'Muscle relaxant'
3) Morphine. Opiod
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So you called the GP out because your wife was in so much pain she couldn't wait until Monday to visit the surgery? So the doctor gives her drugs to help you with it.
If she is in pain give her the drugs, if she isn't don't. It really is that simples, it's got nothing with doctors 'liking to medicate'
His approach to pain relief is actually refreshingly good for a GP. He has applied what's called 'multimodal analgesia' ie different drugs that work on different parts of the pain pathway to get the best pain relief with the least doses
1) Voltarol. Anti inflammatory
2) Diazepam. 'Muscle relaxant'
3) Morphine. Opiod
If she is in pain give her the drugs, if she isn't don't. It really is that simples, it's got nothing with doctors 'liking to medicate'
His approach to pain relief is actually refreshingly good for a GP. He has applied what's called 'multimodal analgesia' ie different drugs that work on different parts of the pain pathway to get the best pain relief with the least doses
1) Voltarol. Anti inflammatory
2) Diazepam. 'Muscle relaxant'
3) Morphine. Opiod
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I thought the service was great. I was just surprised at how easily those kind of things are prescribed.
As for the other comments, a little too much like this for me:
As for the other comments, a little too much like this for me:
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They are painkillers, your wife was in pain, what else did you expect the GP to do? Perhaps chant something, light some incense and give her a quick foot massage??
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now you are talking,
a few years ago we met a trainee "reflexologist", whatever the fvck that is, and she insisted on coming around and massaging my wife's and my feet, soft music, candles -- the lot
fantastic and soo relaxing
(but she did wonder why i sat there stark bollok naked playing with myself, i guess I got the wrong end of the stick)
a few years ago we met a trainee "reflexologist", whatever the fvck that is, and she insisted on coming around and massaging my wife's and my feet, soft music, candles -- the lot
fantastic and soo relaxing
(but she did wonder why i sat there stark bollok naked playing with myself, i guess I got the wrong end of the stick)
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now you are talking,
a few years ago we met a trainee "reflexologist", whatever the fvck that is, and she insisted on coming around and massaging my wife's and my feet, soft music, candles -- the lot
fantastic and soo relaxing
(but she did wonder why i sat there stark bollok naked playing with myself, i guess I got the wrong end of the stick)
a few years ago we met a trainee "reflexologist", whatever the fvck that is, and she insisted on coming around and massaging my wife's and my feet, soft music, candles -- the lot
fantastic and soo relaxing
(but she did wonder why i sat there stark bollok naked playing with myself, i guess I got the wrong end of the stick)
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Having lately fell into depression due to personal matters, I went to my doc's and told him what was wrong with me, as I needed something to help me focus as I couldn't remember to do the simple things like eat or get up for work, I even gave up things I enjoy like going to the gym. He confirmed that I was not in a good place and prescribed me some anti-depressants.
Within a few days my mind was numbed to my personal matters and instead I turned into a paranoid sucidial wreck. After mentally working out how I was going to end it and nearly burning myself on the wrist with my iron as I wanted to feel the pain, I thought **** this and stopped taking the tablets. I hated the fact I couldn't feel my pain anymore, I actually missed it as it was important to me..
Moral of the story it was probably easier/cheaper/quicker for the doc to medicate me rather than provide counselling. Now I'm dealing with my depression slowly myself with the help of good friends. Won't be back to the doc's anytime soon.
Within a few days my mind was numbed to my personal matters and instead I turned into a paranoid sucidial wreck. After mentally working out how I was going to end it and nearly burning myself on the wrist with my iron as I wanted to feel the pain, I thought **** this and stopped taking the tablets. I hated the fact I couldn't feel my pain anymore, I actually missed it as it was important to me..
Moral of the story it was probably easier/cheaper/quicker for the doc to medicate me rather than provide counselling. Now I'm dealing with my depression slowly myself with the help of good friends. Won't be back to the doc's anytime soon.
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Mate, been there and I'm going through the same thing, have been for a while. Its horrible isn't it.
Some of these anti-depressants do cause suicidal feelings and it also angers me that the first thing the docs seem to turn to for mental illness issues is pills.
I was placed on some that made me hallucinate so I took myself off of them and moved to another variant, still felt weird so I came off them too.
I've been waiting for counselling for 2 years and I've been asking for someone to talk to about a few things; my having nearly being killed by someone in a hit and run accident when I was ten, believe it or not I was hit at 80mph by a volvo estate who left me to die a week before xmas, leaving my father to scoop me off the road as five cars following it just drove around me, but luckily it only smashed my arm to bits, nearly ripped it off and skimmed my body causing internal damage to my kidney with the prospect of having a crippled arm which did in fact, in the consultants words, miraculously heal. I swear I have ptsd from that as I never got over it and the rage, flashbacks, hatred of the world that pops up and then dissipates is massively scary as I'm usually a lovely guy with lots of friends. That, coupled with a weird upbringing that I'm not going into, my dad going nuts with allsorts of mental issues, mum dieing of cancer and then having to prepare her body myself, as the mortuary would not fulfill the final requests (painting my mothers nails when she was cold and dead was no walk in the park) and a suicide attempt that was supposed to work when I was 17 (a months supply of atenolol should normally do the trick, it didn't, I'm not religious but apparently someone is looking out for me). And a few other issues have been met with the doctors going on the angle of just changing my brain chemistry with pills rather than time to talk it out and confront my demons. Probably why I'm sitting here, with a few beers in me, outpouring to no one and everyone.
But Jamz3k I really do know where you are coming from and feel free to pm me some time if you need, no worries if you dont't though!
I'm pushing for better treatment and acknowledgment of a need to set things straight before that timebomb goes off. Shame it feels like no one listens and with regards talking to doctors I may as well be speaking to a cold sheet of surgical steel!
Problem is I'm also high functioning and good at acting like all is ok, so the charm kicks in during conversation and seems to obscure the view of my probs, contradictions-a-plenty so it's just a bizarre situation. I have no family but my brother who is down here and my lovely family who are all the way up in Scotland who I don't want to burden with my problems which is just daft, I know!
All I need is someone to sit down and talk to but apparently I cannot be categorised and they keep trying to put me on anger management and bereavement counselling but I'm still waiting or have to pay £50 per short session. I think I need yhe lot at once but what do they care, I just dont understand why nothing is done as I repeatedly ask for help!
Sorry for the massivebpost, was a bit cathartic but I felt like I needed that! :s
Some of these anti-depressants do cause suicidal feelings and it also angers me that the first thing the docs seem to turn to for mental illness issues is pills.
I was placed on some that made me hallucinate so I took myself off of them and moved to another variant, still felt weird so I came off them too.
I've been waiting for counselling for 2 years and I've been asking for someone to talk to about a few things; my having nearly being killed by someone in a hit and run accident when I was ten, believe it or not I was hit at 80mph by a volvo estate who left me to die a week before xmas, leaving my father to scoop me off the road as five cars following it just drove around me, but luckily it only smashed my arm to bits, nearly ripped it off and skimmed my body causing internal damage to my kidney with the prospect of having a crippled arm which did in fact, in the consultants words, miraculously heal. I swear I have ptsd from that as I never got over it and the rage, flashbacks, hatred of the world that pops up and then dissipates is massively scary as I'm usually a lovely guy with lots of friends. That, coupled with a weird upbringing that I'm not going into, my dad going nuts with allsorts of mental issues, mum dieing of cancer and then having to prepare her body myself, as the mortuary would not fulfill the final requests (painting my mothers nails when she was cold and dead was no walk in the park) and a suicide attempt that was supposed to work when I was 17 (a months supply of atenolol should normally do the trick, it didn't, I'm not religious but apparently someone is looking out for me). And a few other issues have been met with the doctors going on the angle of just changing my brain chemistry with pills rather than time to talk it out and confront my demons. Probably why I'm sitting here, with a few beers in me, outpouring to no one and everyone.
But Jamz3k I really do know where you are coming from and feel free to pm me some time if you need, no worries if you dont't though!
I'm pushing for better treatment and acknowledgment of a need to set things straight before that timebomb goes off. Shame it feels like no one listens and with regards talking to doctors I may as well be speaking to a cold sheet of surgical steel!
Problem is I'm also high functioning and good at acting like all is ok, so the charm kicks in during conversation and seems to obscure the view of my probs, contradictions-a-plenty so it's just a bizarre situation. I have no family but my brother who is down here and my lovely family who are all the way up in Scotland who I don't want to burden with my problems which is just daft, I know!
All I need is someone to sit down and talk to but apparently I cannot be categorised and they keep trying to put me on anger management and bereavement counselling but I'm still waiting or have to pay £50 per short session. I think I need yhe lot at once but what do they care, I just dont understand why nothing is done as I repeatedly ask for help!
Sorry for the massivebpost, was a bit cathartic but I felt like I needed that! :s
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Or maybe I should just button down and get on with it like we all used to, stiff upper lip etc. Conflicted, lol.
What would Leslie do? I reckon he has the answers, legend :-)
Boxt, really sorry for the thread hijack, I hope the wifes back is better now!
What would Leslie do? I reckon he has the answers, legend :-)
Boxt, really sorry for the thread hijack, I hope the wifes back is better now!
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Sadly it's seems many GP's answer to everything. Haven't got the time to do a proper examination so pop a pill.
Don't suppose they actually gave you a diagnosis to the cause of said pain, or a follow up plan?
Don't suppose they actually gave you a diagnosis to the cause of said pain, or a follow up plan?
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Read the original post, be realistic and get a grip.
The duty doc was called out over the weekend to try and help somebody in pain. All he can realistically do in that scenario is exclude anything life threatening and treat the pain.
Anything further needs to be sorted out later. The patient can go and see her regular doc during the week and take things further if needed.
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Read the original post, be realistic and get a grip.
The duty doc was called out over the weekend to try and help somebody in pain. All he can realistically do in that scenario is exclude anything life threatening and treat the pain.
Anything further needs to be sorted out later. The patient can go and see her regular doc during the week and take things further if needed.
The duty doc was called out over the weekend to try and help somebody in pain. All he can realistically do in that scenario is exclude anything life threatening and treat the pain.
Anything further needs to be sorted out later. The patient can go and see her regular doc during the week and take things further if needed.
What's unrealistic about asking if they got a follow up plan? As for the drugs prescribed, completely over medicated. You don't go dishing out drugs like oramorph just because someone has back pain ffs.
Normal GP hours Mon-Fri mean she would have got a different treatment does it? You still get a 10-15 minute appointment.
WTF can you diagnose in that time? If you're doing the job properly it will take that time just to the HPC & PMH.
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Get a grip?
What's unrealistic about asking if they got a follow up plan? As for the drugs prescribed, completely over medicated. You don't go dishing out drugs like oramorph just because someone has back pain ffs.
Normal GP hours Mon-Fri mean she would have got a different treatment does it? You still get a 10-15 minute appointment.
WTF can you diagnose in that time? If you're doing the job properly it will take that time just to the HPC & PMH.
What's unrealistic about asking if they got a follow up plan? As for the drugs prescribed, completely over medicated. You don't go dishing out drugs like oramorph just because someone has back pain ffs.
Normal GP hours Mon-Fri mean she would have got a different treatment does it? You still get a 10-15 minute appointment.
WTF can you diagnose in that time? If you're doing the job properly it will take that time just to the HPC & PMH.
You do need to get a grip and remember you are NOT a doctor. Just because you have some crappy biomedical sciences degree does not mean you can diagnose or treat patients or have any real idea about what it takes to do so.
You have neither the training, experience or suitable registration.
All very well to jibber jabber nonsense on the internet when you have never actually had the burden of responsibility for a patients well being.
Sorry my friend but you need a reality check