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Old 22 January 2013, 11:07 PM
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Default Stuart Hall now charged with various offences

http://news.uk.msn.com/uk/broadcaste...rged-with-rape


I cant see how the CPS can push this one through, given the time,

Are there not statutes of limitations? in which case why bother,


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Old 22 January 2013, 11:13 PM
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There is no statute of limitations on a criminal offence......

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Old 22 January 2013, 11:24 PM
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This is getting out of hand TBH.
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What I don't completely understand, is that there surely is no evidence other than "her word, against his" regardless of how many women have come forward, you need more than that to convict someone.

So the question is, if there is other evidence, why has it taken 20 odd years for this to be investigated?! Are the police on convict b-list celeb commission or something?!
Old 23 January 2013, 12:33 AM
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In my humble opinion.

We are seeing a version of the auld witch hunts / Spanish Inquisition now.

I'm waiting for a knock on the door for sucking on a 13 year old girls **** and squeezing her ****.

Mind you. I was 11 at the time. Perhaps I should call the cops and say that she abused her age advantage over me?

Bloody ridicularse now this is.


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Old 23 January 2013, 06:08 AM
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I don't believe there can be any physical or corroborating evidence especially of the rape. Considering he is 83 I would be surprised if he can remember what he had for breakfast let alone what happened nearly 40 years ago.

I expect to see more arrests and attempted prosecutions.
Old 23 January 2013, 07:42 AM
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Complete waste of police time and money, and now they are going to waste more time and money getting the case through the courts.

40 yrs on and at 83yrs old what is the point, in a one persons word against another situation.
Old 23 January 2013, 03:42 PM
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It has to be proved in court yet.

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Old 23 January 2013, 04:16 PM
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Most rapes are one word against another, but they can't just bin them on that. You need to have some sort of evidence that disproves the victims account
Old 23 January 2013, 05:33 PM
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Well, if he gets through this, there's a TV show in it for him....


"It's a knock one out"......
Old 23 January 2013, 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by boxst
I don't believe there can be any physical or corroborating evidence especially of the rape. Considering he is 83 I would be surprised if he can remember what he had for breakfast let alone what happened nearly 40 years ago.

I expect to see more arrests and attempted prosecutions.
Having seen him speak, he is fully in control of his faculties, not sure what to think as I like his TV persona, I dont know him but if he was into stuff like that, he should be made to face the music, however it was a long time ago, it seems like alternately a mawkish bandwagon and people feeling like they can now come forward.
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Originally Posted by jods
We are seeing a version of the auld witch hunts / Spanish Inquisition now.




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Old 24 January 2013, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by jods
In my humble opinion.

We are seeing a version of the auld witch hunts / Spanish Inquisition now.

I'm waiting for a knock on the door for sucking on a 13 year old girls **** and squeezing her ****.

Mind you. I was 11 at the time. Perhaps I should call the cops and say that she abused her age advantage over me?

Bloody ridicularse now this is.


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Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!

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Old 24 January 2013, 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Torquemada
Do you watch the "Monty Python" bunch?

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Old 25 January 2013, 04:25 PM
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Anecdotal evidence is not always discounted. So if jury hear from say 3 girls that they rushed into the room after the event and heard her screams and tale of rape it could sway a jury.

But as I said on another thread I don't think this should be dragged up after so long.

Hard luck, perhaps, on the victim I know.

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Originally Posted by Leslie
Do you watch the "Monty Python" bunch?

Les
But of course, Les

Tomas de Torquemada was also a naughty rascal as the first grand inquisitor, hence the Although my 'handle' is from a 1980's comic book
Old 25 January 2013, 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Torquemada
But of course, Les

Tomas de Torqauemad was also a naughty rascal as the first grand inquisitor, hence the Although my 'handle' is from a 1980's comic book

2000AD if i'm not mistaken


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Old 25 January 2013, 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by mart360
2000AD if i'm not mistaken


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That's the one!

So I don't go OT too much. It's an odd one this, will be interesting to see the outcome but I can't really decide either way until there's more info but I have a feeling that we may never really find out the actual truth here.

Would be a shame if it's all true though!
Old 26 January 2013, 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Torquemada
But of course, Les

Tomas de Torquemada was also a naughty rascal as the first grand inquisitor, hence the Although my 'handle' is from a 1980's comic book


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Old 26 January 2013, 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Felix.
Most rapes are one word against another, but they can't just bin them on that. You need to have some sort of evidence that disproves the victims account
Are you sure about this?
I'd have thought you would need evidence that proves the alleged victims account.
Old 27 January 2013, 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Felix.
You need to have some sort of evidence that disproves the victims account
"Innocent until proven guilty"
Old 27 January 2013, 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Henrik
"Innocent until proven guilty"
Not if you are a journo for a newspaper where it always seems "Guilty until proven innocent" is the normal assumption.
Then they buy the celeb's story no matter if found guilty or innocent by law.
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He's admitted all of it, sexual assault of girls as young as 9.

Despite some commenters above, I for one am glad he was chased and prosecuted; age and elapsed time should be irrelevant when it comes to prosecuting people like this.

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Off with his nuts........
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Originally Posted by jods
In my humble opinion.

We are seeing a version of the auld witch hunts / Spanish Inquisition now.

I'm waiting for a knock on the door for sucking on a 13 year old girls **** and squeezing her ****.

Mind you. I was 11 at the time. Perhaps I should call the cops and say that she abused her age advantage over me?

Bloody ridicularse now this is.


Jods






I'm thinking of all the girls i played kiss chase with,and the bird i snogged in her back garden,and the other bird Miranda when i asked her to show me her *****,and it had me a bit puzzled the first time i seen one

Going too far now with this,1967 for effing ball bags....
Old 02 May 2013, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by overboostUK
What I don't completely understand, is that there surely is no evidence other than "her word, against his" regardless of how many women have come forward, you need more than that to convict someone.

So the question is, if there is other evidence, why has it taken 20 odd years for this to be investigated?! Are the police on convict b-list celeb commission or something?!
It just said on the radio that the victim had no idea she had been abused. So, for all you "she is after a claim" nonsense, you need to step back and look at other angles. Personally I think its a huge peado ring, and this is the tip of the iceberg. This **** has admitted to the charges, age goes out of the window, as does time. He is guilty, and I hope they bring more of these vile ******* to justice too.
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Really sad to see this on a personal level, back in the day I didn't like Saville and Glitter, but Stuart Hall was a great entertainer on Its a knockout and can remember laughing hysterically at some of those shows and his commentating

Also I just read some of the incidents "On another occasion in the 1970s he fondled the breast of a girl aged 16 or 17, the court was told." and "He also kissed a 13-year-old girl on the lips after he said to her: "People need to show thanks in other ways." The reaction seems over the top for that kind of thing.....
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Originally Posted by warrenm2
Really sad to see this on a personal level, back in the day I didn't like Saville and Glitter, but Stuart Hall was a great entertainer on Its a knockout and can remember laughing hysterically at some of those shows and his commentating

Also I just read some of the incidents "On another occasion in the 1970s he fondled the breast of a girl aged 16 or 17, the court was told." and "He also kissed a 13-year-old girl on the lips after he said to her: "People need to show thanks in other ways." The reaction seems over the top for that kind of thing.....
So, because you liked his shows in the 80's and made you laugh, he should be excused for praying on 13 year old girls, when he would have been in his 50's?. This is where I think it all stems from to be honest. W4nkers like him getting away with stuff, because they are liked on tv.
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Originally Posted by DYK
I'm thinking of all the girls i played kiss chase with,and the bird i snogged in her back garden,and the other bird Miranda when i asked her to show me her *****,and it had me a bit puzzled the first time i seen one

Going too far now with this,1967 for effing ball bags....
Unless you were 40 years old and they were 10, then that is no comparison whatsoever

Edit: Otherwise, watch your back!


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