BBC vs LSE
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BBC vs LSE
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22144667
I think the BBC are in the wrong here. What do you reckon?
So they trick a bunch of kids to join them in a clandestine trip to North Korea hoping that they won't get caught.
From what I have gleaned about NK if they had suspicions they would have no hesitation in shipping the students off to solitary in some god forsaken gulag after being paraded around Pyongyang as Western spies to much cheering for the Great Leader.
BBC claim it will be shown for "public interest" reasons but what does that mean? So we get to see the "real" NK with wobbly oxcarts and emaciated kids living on roots and dieing of starvation. Perhaps with a shot or two of happy workers slaving away on sponsored collective farms. All very sad but the irony is there is bugger all we can do about except hope one day.......
If the BBC want to go and film, fine. But the Beeb is teaming with out of work actors so use your own guys and gals.
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I think the BBC are in the wrong here. What do you reckon?
So they trick a bunch of kids to join them in a clandestine trip to North Korea hoping that they won't get caught.
From what I have gleaned about NK if they had suspicions they would have no hesitation in shipping the students off to solitary in some god forsaken gulag after being paraded around Pyongyang as Western spies to much cheering for the Great Leader.
BBC claim it will be shown for "public interest" reasons but what does that mean? So we get to see the "real" NK with wobbly oxcarts and emaciated kids living on roots and dieing of starvation. Perhaps with a shot or two of happy workers slaving away on sponsored collective farms. All very sad but the irony is there is bugger all we can do about except hope one day.......
If the BBC want to go and film, fine. But the Beeb is teaming with out of work actors so use your own guys and gals.
David
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Did you read link?
The BBC said the trip was organised by the wife of Panorama reporter John Sweeney. The couple spent eight days inside the country for the programme, along with a cameraman.
Mr Thomas said she had organised a similar trip for students a year earlier and the latest visit would have gone ahead even if Panorama had not been involved.
Seems a bit doubtful to me if a trip this year would have gone ahead in light of latest tensions.
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Did you read link?
The BBC said the trip was organised by the wife of Panorama reporter John Sweeney. The couple spent eight days inside the country for the programme, along with a cameraman.
Mr Thomas said she had organised a similar trip for students a year earlier and the latest visit would have gone ahead even if Panorama had not been involved.
Seems a bit doubtful to me if a trip this year would have gone ahead in light of latest tensions.
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The BBC said the trip was organised by the wife of Panorama reporter John Sweeney. The couple spent eight days inside the country for the programme, along with a cameraman.
Mr Thomas said she had organised a similar trip for students a year earlier and the latest visit would have gone ahead even if Panorama had not been involved.
Seems a bit doubtful to me if a trip this year would have gone ahead in light of latest tensions.
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If it's a repeat visit why is it the bbc being ousted yet again? At the min people seem to be looking at everything the bbc do and pulling fault for anything and everything, justified or not.
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Can't realy comment on if it would or wouldn't, but they didnt cross into NK by subdefuge, they were allowed in and escorted round by NK staff (and no doubt intellegance service personel), Also when was the trip? theres no mention of any date as far as i can see?
If it's a repeat visit why is it the bbc being ousted yet again? At the min people seem to be looking at everything the bbc do and pulling fault for anything and everything, justified or not.
If it's a repeat visit why is it the bbc being ousted yet again? At the min people seem to be looking at everything the bbc do and pulling fault for anything and everything, justified or not.
As I understand it the first visit was genuine but the second had an ulterior motive and had he NK Stasi discovered what that was there could have been very serious consequences for the team. Half a dozen Western "spies" - what a wonderful bargaining tool.
IMHO very irresponsible of the Beeb, not just Jimmy Savile trivia
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As I understand it the first visit was genuine but the second had an ulterior motive and had he NK Stasi discovered what that was there could have been very serious consequences for the team. Half a dozen Western "spies" - what a wonderful bargaining tool.
IMHO very irresponsible of the Beeb, not just Jimmy Savile trivia
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IMHO very irresponsible of the Beeb, not just Jimmy Savile trivia
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possibly true, but do you realy belive the students and uni were that nieve (SP)?
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I'm awaiting the programme with interest. Perhaps it was a bit underhand, but fortunately it didn't go wrong, and following the publicity, they won't be able to do it again, so it should provide us with a fascinating one-off insight into the reality of life there.
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John Sweeney and his wife had been there before. Probably felt comfortable with the situation. Probably did tell the students beforehand. Probably wasn't film at current tensions level. They probably didn't think they were in "that" much danger.
Probably........
Probably........
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Since the LSE has always had a reputation for being more than a bit left wing, I'm inclined to take anything it's representatives have to say with a hefty pinch of salt
That student union bint is probably actually more upset about a shining example of State Socialism being portrayed in a bad light, than she is about any risk to the students
That student union bint is probably actually more upset about a shining example of State Socialism being portrayed in a bad light, than she is about any risk to the students
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Apparently the students involved won't be interviewed as they have been threatened via email by the NK government. I would suggest they very carefully check the real originas of any such emails
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From what I can make out, the entire country suffers to keep one family and the military rich.
Crazy country.
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