Cordless Drill options
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Hi all.
I'm in need of a new cordless drill after dropping my last one that I've had for 5 years. Anyway technology and build has moved on a lot since my last purchase, so what do I need to look out for and what is the best buy..
I believe 18v is must ?
Dewalt, makita, ryobi, ?
Battery types ?
I've seen this which looks a good deal? Views please![Wink](https://www.scoobynet.com/images/smilies/wink.gif)
http://cpc.farnell.com/dewalt/dc970k...-bb45-00001002
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Rob
I'm in need of a new cordless drill after dropping my last one that I've had for 5 years. Anyway technology and build has moved on a lot since my last purchase, so what do I need to look out for and what is the best buy..
I believe 18v is must ?
Dewalt, makita, ryobi, ?
Battery types ?
I've seen this which looks a good deal? Views please
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http://cpc.farnell.com/dewalt/dc970k...-bb45-00001002
Thanks
Rob
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I'm very much an amateur in this game but wouldn't you want Li-Ion batteries? More expensive but last longer and keep charge better.
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Cheers all.
The trouble with going to a reputable supplier of all tools us they have pretty much all options, and although I had around £100 in my head which will get be a makita, there are so bloody many variations of it I wouldn't know a good en from a bad en!
Also places like screw fix are generally top dollar with small discounts, whereas the same brand/part can be had much cheaper, thus my budget will get me more. I just don't know what to look out for. My works maintenance depot had Ryobi and Makita (still have), until a recent one broke, so they bought a dewalt and rave it.
The trouble with going to a reputable supplier of all tools us they have pretty much all options, and although I had around £100 in my head which will get be a makita, there are so bloody many variations of it I wouldn't know a good en from a bad en!
Also places like screw fix are generally top dollar with small discounts, whereas the same brand/part can be had much cheaper, thus my budget will get me more. I just don't know what to look out for. My works maintenance depot had Ryobi and Makita (still have), until a recent one broke, so they bought a dewalt and rave it.
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Im a carpenter , Get the dewalt 18v, 2 batteries , 1hr charger £99 or the makita 18v 1 li-on battery , 30 min charger £99. Out of the 2 id go for the dewalt , great drill for the price. The exact same dewalt drill fell off the roof of my van whilst i was doing 70 mph on my way home from work couple of weeks ago . I heard it fall off and it bounced down the road. I stopped and walked back up the road and picked it up off the side of the road , it had a couple of scratches on it but still works perfect. Shows the build quality of dewalt.
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Im a carpenter , Get the dewalt 18v, 2 batteries , 1hr charger £99 or the makita 18v 1 li-on battery , 30 min charger £99. Out of the 2 id go for the dewalt , great drill for the price. The exact same dewalt drill fell off the roof of my van whilst i was doing 70 mph on my way home from work couple of weeks ago . I heard it fall off and it bounced down the road. I stopped and walked back up the road and picked it up off the side of the road , it had a couple of scratches on it but still works perfect. Shows the build quality of dewalt.
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Im a carpenter , Get the dewalt 18v, 2 batteries , 1hr charger £99 or the makita 18v 1 li-on battery , 30 min charger £99. Out of the 2 id go for the dewalt , great drill for the price. The exact same dewalt drill fell off the roof of my van whilst i was doing 70 mph on my way home from work couple of weeks ago . I heard it fall off and it bounced down the road. I stopped and walked back up the road and picked it up off the side of the road , it had a couple of scratches on it but still works perfect. Shows the build quality of dewalt.
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Where from bud?
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[quote=Rob Day;11273143]70 mph on a road
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Ive got a nissan primaster 115 , 70 is no sweat on the m6 following a vw transporter sportline 180
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Sounds a strong bit of kit
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Ive got a nissan primaster 115 , 70 is no sweat on the m6 following a vw transporter sportline 180
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Im a joiner, got the full makita kit and wouldnt buy anyrhing else, its the 18v lithium lxt pack, honest mate its mint, ive got 8 batteries and they get constant abuse all day every day in circular saw and planner and they put up with it very well, dewalt are a good tool but batteries are pants compared to makita, if you dont use it that much i would recommend the older style drills with the nimh or nicad batteries, they dont hold charge as long but there half the price ;-)
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Just changing all ours from Dewalt to Makita ...
The Dewalt kit has lasted 5 years if abuse but there batteries are too expensive imo
Can get better deals on the Makita range.
The Dewalt kit has lasted 5 years if abuse but there batteries are too expensive imo
Can get better deals on the Makita range.
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As mentioned: Li-ion batteries is a must, they don't go flat when not being used. And they are higher capacity and charge quicker too. So its win win.
I would NOT recommend nicads/ni-cd//NiMH for a sporadic user as they self discharge when not being used. (Apparently the interweb quotes it at typically upto 10% loss of charge in the first 24hrs after charging for NiCd and upto 20% loss for Ni-MH, Li-Ion is less than 2%! ).
Voltage isn't really the issue IMHO - amp hour capacity is king. 3000mAh (3.0Ah) has twice the storage power of 1500mAh (1.5Ah) in other words the drill will work for twice as long.
Brand?
That's personal preference. I like my Makita - its been crushed under a 4 post car ramp with a combined weight of 2tons on it and doesn't look any worse for it, bar a crack in the plastic behind the rubber grip.....you may say I was lucky...but I've done it twice now and its still OK![Lol1](https://www.scoobynet.com/images/smilies/lol1.gif)
3.0Ah Li-ion Batteries charge in less than half an hour and can be charged at anytime without damaging them (unlike nicads, which suffer capacity issues if not cycled properly etc). So I'd go as far to say that if you are just drilling the odd hole here and there then one 3.0Ah Li-ion battery is enough (so long as you remember to charge it after use
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So you could buy a better drill with one Li-Ion battery, or buy a lesser drill with several Li-Ion batteries.
I would NOT recommend nicads/ni-cd//NiMH for a sporadic user as they self discharge when not being used. (Apparently the interweb quotes it at typically upto 10% loss of charge in the first 24hrs after charging for NiCd and upto 20% loss for Ni-MH, Li-Ion is less than 2%! ).
Voltage isn't really the issue IMHO - amp hour capacity is king. 3000mAh (3.0Ah) has twice the storage power of 1500mAh (1.5Ah) in other words the drill will work for twice as long.
Brand?
That's personal preference. I like my Makita - its been crushed under a 4 post car ramp with a combined weight of 2tons on it and doesn't look any worse for it, bar a crack in the plastic behind the rubber grip.....you may say I was lucky...but I've done it twice now and its still OK
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3.0Ah Li-ion Batteries charge in less than half an hour and can be charged at anytime without damaging them (unlike nicads, which suffer capacity issues if not cycled properly etc). So I'd go as far to say that if you are just drilling the odd hole here and there then one 3.0Ah Li-ion battery is enough (so long as you remember to charge it after use
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So you could buy a better drill with one Li-Ion battery, or buy a lesser drill with several Li-Ion batteries.
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Adam the batteries are re-chargeable mate, you don't have to buy new ones every time they run down ![Big Grin](https://www.scoobynet.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
I have DeWalt and nothing but good to say about it. It doesn't get the same abuse as it would in the hands of a trade contractor though.
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I have DeWalt and nothing but good to say about it. It doesn't get the same abuse as it would in the hands of a trade contractor though.
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Thanks everyone for the replies, I'm really pleased with the response considering I didn't make myself all that clear in my original post. I think all bases are covered, so I'll look for a 3.0Ah Li-ion makita or dewalt (readily available, and accessories are easy come by) at 18v or thereabouts.
By the way I'm a DIY freak, I've renovated three house in the last 10 years from top to bottom, my basic un branded tools have done the job well, in fact my Argos Challange corded drill has knocked off plaster in three house, mixed render, board adhesive, multi finish, and fixed all the woodwork with just a new set of bushes and 2 new chucks. It's been a real bit of kit, and still going strong. My other tools are doing good too, but after dropping my last cordless from only 4ft and breaking I feel I need a better bit of kit going forward. Considering I'm only a DIY guy I've a shed full of tools that over time I'll replace with better ones. Sander, Plane, Circular saw, Jig Saw, Drill. The rest are decent branded tools.
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By the way I'm a DIY freak, I've renovated three house in the last 10 years from top to bottom, my basic un branded tools have done the job well, in fact my Argos Challange corded drill has knocked off plaster in three house, mixed render, board adhesive, multi finish, and fixed all the woodwork with just a new set of bushes and 2 new chucks. It's been a real bit of kit, and still going strong. My other tools are doing good too, but after dropping my last cordless from only 4ft and breaking I feel I need a better bit of kit going forward. Considering I'm only a DIY guy I've a shed full of tools that over time I'll replace with better ones. Sander, Plane, Circular saw, Jig Saw, Drill. The rest are decent branded tools.
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Great choice rob love my makita stuff specially my impact gun look up its London cheapest prices. Iv upgraded all mine to Hilti now due to half of my stuff got stolen
. Back doors got done on van.
Makita prob just as good tbf apart from my collated gun Hilti is the nuts.
Also rob I what's ap you want some graphics done after x mas
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Makita prob just as good tbf apart from my collated gun Hilti is the nuts.
Also rob I what's ap you want some graphics done after x mas
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Axeminster are normally really good for Makita deals, dewalt are good but my bro has just changed all of his gear from dewalt to Makita, he had quite a bit of bother with his dewalt stuff think he had his 18v driver repaired about 3 times, gear box packed in after a few months and was repaired under warranty ( it was an xrp driver aswell with the heavy duty matel gearbox casing) and it also needed a new motor at some point aswell.
Not had any bother with Makita stuff over the years.
Best if you can afford the LXT range with the Makita stuff much better gear for the money
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Not had any bother with Makita stuff over the years.
Best if you can afford the LXT range with the Makita stuff much better gear for the money
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18v makita lxt ftw dewalt batteries dont live as long, ive had 1lxt battery fail on me but ive had many dewalt fail to charge, dewalt tools are superb but until they can make a good battery they are ****, for £1000 you can get the latest makita bushless kit with 3 batteries n charger, planner, sds, combi drill, impacter, jig saw, circular saw, torch and angle grinder.
This is the kit i got and honest i cant fault it, it gets massive abuse as i work on a price on sites and never missed a beat, best on the market imho
This is the kit i got and honest i cant fault it, it gets massive abuse as i work on a price on sites and never missed a beat, best on the market imho
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i bought this one 4 years ago from b & q http://www.screwfix.com/p/makita-839...ory-kit/83834# it cost me £100 and i have battered it to death and its still going strong the battery's are still good, my next drill will be a newer makita with li-on batterys.
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Another one for Makita here, I still have one that's almost 20yrs old and used to get abused all day every day for about 13yrs never let me down and still going to this day, replaced batteries twice only ever broke one when I dropped it 5 floors down a lift shaft at leeds uni.
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