legb4rsk

http://www.croydonadvertiser.co.uk/C...ail/story.html


While Cody has been convicted 35 times for 88 offences, many relating to driving and resulting in custodial sentences, PC Duncan " was 47 when he died and had been a police officer since 1990.

Surely it was just a matter of time before Cody did something like this.
How many offences do you have to commit before you are given a very long sentence (5+ years).Even the most liberal person can see that sometimes you have to come down hard on oxygen thieves.

SJ_Skyline

The liberal left lentil munchers won a long time ago. Combined with the EU, the UK us totally asrefcuked.

paulr

Why drag the EU into it. Prison sentences are set by the UK justice system alone. No one else. As far as I know, there is no EU rule that sets limits on prison sentences.

SJ_Skyline

Why not? It's part of the equation dragging the UK into the mire or do you have evidence that the EU is benefiting the UK?

RA Dunk

Just wait till the usual buttwipes appear and tell you we are winning the war on crime and the current justice system is working fine, because someone has made a graph lol.

warrenm2

Because the EU mandates for example that we cant have the death sentence. The EU is forcing the UK to give prisoners the vote. The EU is saying we cant give whole life tariffs without the chance of parole. The EU mandates the legislation behind the Human Rights Act which gives foreign criminals the "right to family life".

So from these few examples, the EU has a large part in the criminal law of this country, and should be included

f1_fan

iTrader: (9)

I think you're all very mean.... everyone deserves a 36th chance

LUCKO

iTrader: (3)

another waste of sperm

probably got 3 or 4 unemployed brothers/sisters to keep his rotten teeth mommy company while hes doing bird

paulr

1. Capital punishment would not be part of the uk, with or without the eu.
Z. I think criminals should have the vote. No taxation without representation. It's a fundamental basis of society.
3. Not exactly true. It is saying there has to be a process whereby a sentence can be reviewed. Bottom line is if we want someone to be in prison forever, we can do that.
4. I'm with you on that one.

However, in general, on the vast, vast majority of cases, soft sentencing is down to us. Nobody else.

RA Dunk

Rapists, paedo's, murderers and the general dregs of society should have a say on what happens in the outside world?

DYK

It's sad when you look at our country today,and how weak its become.

angel1368

iTrader: (1)

as some know i was sentenced to 8 years for defending a member of my family and yes fair enough i deserved it for going over the top but it kills me to see baby rapists etc getting half of what got for something so nasty

paulr

While i have no syympathy for such people, no taxation without representation is a fundamental facet of British life. While it is horrible to admit, unfortunately many criminals get to hang on to assets while in prison. Conrad Black for example. Assets are taxed.

paulr

Yes, but thats not the fault of the EU. Its the duality of politicians here.

alcazar

iTrader: (2)

Agreed.......WE could do as they do, and just ignore laws that have no direct benefit to the UK, but we don't.
we enforce and follow every daft bit of legislation, then throw up our hands and shout "Oh, woe, look what that nasty EU has done to us...."

Our politicians need to grow a set.

f1_fan

iTrader: (9)

Then your only option is UKIP as Miliband and Cameron won't be growing any anytime soon!

Cameron is even too scared to go to Scotland to address the Scots about their independence referendum and even when he went to Somerset about the flooding he wouldn't talk directly to any of the residents. He's pathetic and the only thing on his side is Miliband is as equally pathetic!

neil-h

I swear if I ever come into power I'm going to create a universal ban on discussing politics on the Internet.

markjmd

iTrader: (11)

Care to explain how exactly somebody can be locked-up behind bars on the one hand, but still paying taxes on the other?

paulr

Its not a case of enforcing laws or stuff like that. Nothing to do with the EU.

Maximum sentances, and sentancing guidelines are UK set. Nowhere else.

DYK

Well Cameron did admit it was wrong to stop dredging,which is more than that lord smith had the ***** to say,the arrogance some of these people.
I watched on TV how Lordy smith was chauffeured around in a 4x4,stood in a bit of water wearing his wellies.
If it is true that thirty million was spent on a bird sanctuary,but he wouldn't give four million to dredge the rivers,he wants shooting.

Aaron1978

iTrader: (12)

I bet he's gutted that he can only drive for the last couple of years whilst in prison

paulr

Savings and investments are taxed.
Property is taxed.
Inheritance tax.
Capital gains tax.

RA Dunk

Considering the average person in prison is a pleb I very much doubt they will have much of any of the above.

paulr

True.

boomer

...Maybe we should turn this around and say "No representation without taxation" and take the vote away from "passengers" like those on Benefits Street?

mb

angel1368

iTrader: (1)

i love how people say things like oh prison is full of plebs and havent been there or saw anything about it, just remember you dont have to be a career criminal or anything to end up in jail

RA Dunk

That's right because prison is such a nice place filled with nice people.

I stand by what I said, it's full of plebs, admittedly there are the odd few that has done something daft and ended up there through misfortune but over all it's a home off of the streets for plebs.

angel1368

iTrader: (1)

you would be suprised

RA Dunk

So everyone is innocent then?

angel1368

iTrader: (1)

where did i say they where? all im saying is you would be surprised at the inmates as i take it you have never set foot inside a prison wing so you will assume its like what you see on tv and films etc well that is not the truth