JohnnyBlaze

Any one else into this? Iv been off the cigs for just over a month and iv got right into this vaping lark, sort of a hobby as well as a way to feed my nicotine addiction.

Turbohot

Yes, quite a few people here are on e-cig now. If you search threads, you'll find an evidence of it.

So, how does it feel for a hobby? Do you feel like a choo choo train when you're in action?

Well done on coming off real **** There are people that are so trapped that even e-cig can't get them off those horrible death sticks. But do intend to come off your e-cig as well, like. Not the best thing for a hobby, if you know what I mean. Go, do jogging/running/zumba or something like that for a hobby, I say. Even if it means coming here, and throwing your keyboard at others, go for it and get banned , but I'd come off the e-cig as well; one day.

JohnnyBlaze

I was part of a January resolution quit thread on here but it died off, lol at Zumba, Iv started playing golf instead, I believe most peoples mistake is starting with those cheap £10 kits which really don't cut it for anyone on more then 10 cigs a day.

Maybe one day I'll think about giving up the vaping but for now I see it as a cheaper (only just) and healthier alternative. As a added bonus iv stopped smelling like an ashtray and coughing up bits of lung in a morning.

Turbohot

Well done, Johnny. One should be careful with those random cheap kits, or any kits, anyway. As long as these e-cigs remain unregulated, one doesn't know what's exactly inside the liquid. I think they will be regulated from 2015.

I've heard that those 5.99 or 6.99 plastic cigs are crap as well that you can buy in petrol stations and Spar etc. A friend of mine bought one with the claim printed on it that it was equal to 40 real cigs. But in fact it croaked it after 20 drags, he said. He did take it back, but they won't refund.

JohnnyBlaze

Yeah "regulated" ok, in over words the government will slap a hefty tax on them, I know there planning to do this already in some states in America. I failed quitting twice on them rubbish ones so tell your friend not to give up on it. A bit of advice I heard was "if it looks like a cig it's not going to work", for some people that's the deal breaker. They need to get past the fact it's not and it's all good from there.

scotty44

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Been on the ecig's for over 4 month now, used to smoke 25+ a day (baccy) and dropped to 2 a day as soon as I got a TW ecig, as said the cheap ones are pants and a big smoker wont last long on them (unless you have big will power)
You can pick up a Tornado C kit for around £35, well worth getting a good one....
I have tried 4 cheap ones and all 4 are crap towards the TW, load of good ones about now just dont go cheap
I mix my own liquid

JohnnyBlaze

Nice what sort of flavours do you mix? Are you 50/50 pg vg wise? Iv just started making my own coils. I have a vamo v5 and a mvp v2 both are really good and around the £40 mark

Justme103

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Been on mine properly now for about 5 months or so,
I bought mine from a company called No Match, Started on the 24mg ones as I was quite a heavy smoker and would normally have more than 20 a day (Rolling Baccy)

I have since dropped down to the 18mg liquid & find that im coping fine on that one now.

One thing I did notice is that the Tobacco flavour liquid was disgusting so Im on Tripple menthol or strawberry mint & I do like them.

Turbohot

Well done What do you put in as ingredients, scotty44?

Turbohot

I get where you're coming from with this. I'm amazed that they haven't yet taxed salt and water remedy for toothache for their greed. They would, if they could.

scotty44

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I use a little program called "Knoton's mixing helper" which allows you to enter what combination (%) you want/suits you,
What works for me is a Nicotine base/PG Dilutant and a concentrate (I always go with red bull - just my taste lol)
Using a program like this allows you to drop the % of Nicotine as and when your ready
As said the Tobacco flavour liquid is a you would think that's the best one to start with but if you did I would say 80% of people wouldn't stick with it!

Rob_Impreza99

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Ive been using one since the start of December 2012 so its over a year now, i'm currently using Totally Wicked Red label tobacco 11mg. I'd love to come off the e-cig at some point, so far ive not missed cigarettes.

Ant

an acquaintance of mine owns his own business , worth a look my smoker mates rave about his stuff

http://fpecigs.com

Turbohot

Good on Justme103 and Rob_Impreza99, too.

We have an e-cig shop in our nearby town, and the guys there are always chonging nearly as big as a cycle pump e-cig, like a chimley, and releasing big clouds out. You see random customers going in to get their fix, and those seller guys acting dead streetwise to demonstrate their miraculous e-cig. The sight is amusing , and if it helps, good.

SiPie

So in summary, you are doing without a lot of the harmful chemicals in tobacco but everyone's still addicted to the most addictive one, nicotine

dpb

It's less harmful than those other though, unless your on 200 a day?!

Turbohot

Well, yes. That's if one remains on e-cigs forever rather than gradually reducing nicotine strength in it, and one day, coming off it for good.

Of course, it is. That's why people are buying it. The ones who can't give up even with the e-cig replacement are more of a concern to their own good than the ones who have. And there are people like that.

Put it that way that e-cig has been talked about as the most effective replacement for those death sticks, and causes less harm, as you say. I don't have any study in hand to support that, but there're plenty of anecdotes flying about. A few are talking on this thread.

SiPie

I hear you, but.....

you are trying to give up nicotine by taking more nicotine and as someone posted earlier, they have been smoking the e-cigs since 2012 !!!!



Just stop taking nicotine FFS, that is the whole problem with smoking in the first place.

Martin2005

It's way more important to give up tabacco than nicotine. Nicotine (although highly addicitvie) isn't actually much of a problem (health wise)

cookstar

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I used one of the cheap e cig kits from a petrol garage on Jan 1st, mind you £25 ain't cheap. Used it for about 4-5 days then binned it. I found the mouth spray thing to be far more effective but it was vile, which was good in a way as it's not something you'd use for longer than necessary. I used that for maybe a week on/off and I am still smoke free.

A couple of friends at work have been vaping for a couple of years now, a bit daft I guess but better than 30 Bensons a day.

Turbohot

Nicotine dependency is the cause, we know. But if nicotine is freed from other harmful chemicals and tar, it is better alone than with those corroding and blackening ingredients.

However I agree that one should try reducing nicotine intake, and get free of it one day.

I think Rob did say in some past thread that he has gradually reduced the strength of his nicotine intake.

It's easy to say 'come off even the replacement completely', but why people continue to do what they do is something not many understand. Maladaptive alright, but even if someone has corrected it half way, it's an achievement for them, and it must be appreciated imo.

People should try to get off e-cigs, though. If not, they're doing what a lot of ex-heroin addicts are doing i.e. stay on ORT forever. Although nicotine is believed to be more addictive that heroin, nicotine withdrawal is supposed to be less severe in compare to heroin's, so it won't be that difficult to replace e-cig with something much better e.g. zumba.

Turbohot

Good lad.

What about Coca Cola? Hope you have given that up as well.

cookstar

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Years ago.

Might have a can or two on my birthday though.

Turbohot

Fair enough.

I was in Denbigh yesterday, and I saw our old friend cycling around in his lycra and helmet- the lot! He must be about 75, but he doesn't wanna give up his fitness. I'll be talking to him tonight on phone. I'll tell him that you're a good boy now. If he asks for Viagra from you, I'll tell him that you're no more a dealer to them.

daveyj

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Got me off normal smokes. Can't rate them enough. I use Gamucci ones. Weening off those now too. So glad I tried.will never touch proper cigarettes again.

JohnnyBlaze

Got some nice mechanical mods, which is what I'm after next

The Trooper 1815

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How dangerous are the contents of these things?

Have they been tested or studied for any problems? Just wondering if it's like unregulated vodka and all the other dodgey stuff from China and the Far East.

markjmd

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To start with, they'd need to contain some very weird and noxious stuff to come anywhere close to the danger caused by real cigarettes. Apart from that, the active ingredient (nicotine) is very cheap and easy to synthesize or extract, so for the small amount of extra care it would take a manufacturer to produce the mixtures cleanly, it's probably not worth the small amount of extra profit they could try and squeeze out from cramming them full of less pleasant chemies.

That said, it's still a pointless and unnecessary addiction, and long-term you'll be better off without, no matter how safely the things are made.

JohnnyBlaze

4 or 5 ingredients are generally used in e juice as apposed to the 4000+ chemicals in a cigarette.

JohnnyBlaze

Strongly agree with both of your points there.