LeeMac

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Or go back to a scoob, what d'ya reckon, im getting restless and what to change motors.

ScoobyKev

Go for Supra m8, have just picked up my GT4 and the performance is amazing Had alot of mods done ie Superchip, Mongoose s/s etc and goes like stink. Tested the engine out yesterday against an Evo VI and had fun.

God knows what the Supra is capable of....but I known one thing, you'll have alot of fun if you can keep your licence.

Regards

Kev
GT4 '94 Jap
Black

Paulo P

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LeeMac

Lancia Integrale any day they are so individual and are such a driving experience. I doubt that the supra could match that and the only real thing the supra would do is be really fast in a straight line. The Integrale is a classic now and Values can only go up too Cross country the Lancia would have it wet or dry
[flame suit on]Jap cars tend to lack character and seem too plastic at times. Just my opinion
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Alberick

Haha Jap cars lack character, sure for boycotting purposes, some nutter said that and now everybody repeats after him.

Sure a Japanese engineer that spent his whole youth in Tokyo reading Mazinger mangas, playing with hi-tech toys in a world of hi-tech/gadget items can not create a car with such a character as a regular Italian living on his olive-tree mountain.....

Having said that, go for the Supra of course...this question was a no-brainer...next!!!

Paulo P

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Alberick

All that is Jap is not great. All that technology takes control away from the driver and is suited to big girls Try driving a real car (not from Japan)
[rant mode off]

p.s I stated that its just my opinion.

SCOOBERATORS

Got to be the Intergrale as they are running out of them

Evo 3 if you can afford one.

MarkCSC

Depends if you want finesse or grunt.
The Supra is a big car that goes very fast, handles well, can be tuned to give silly power

The Integrale is a small involving car with bags of feedback. It hasn't got as much power (but 210bhp is not to be sneezed at)but the handling would more than make up for it, except on a dead straight road maybe.

If power is your thing go for the Supra if you get a kick out of "driving", go for the Integrale.

No sod it buy the Integrale they look the mutts.

Mark

PS

Paul got any pics of yours?

[Edited by Mark Champion - 7/17/2002 12:42:09 PM]

Paulo P

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Mark

Only got a couple of pictures

Here's me launching it at a 0-60 day



Me having a play (vid soon to be on ish's website





And the time that I clocked with only 200 bhp at the time



I will see if I can find better pictures. There was some here somewhere

Paulo P

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Some low quality pics printed off a m8s computer then scanned in because he lost the pics You get the rough idea

Paulo P

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And this is what happens if the cambelt jumps

Claudius

Supras are cool but RWD, ie you can slide like mad, do donuts easier than with a AWD.

Delta is too old and **** quality, but an excellent driver's car.

A Lancer Evolution 5 or 6 RS would be the only better choice in terms of performance and driver involvement.

LeeMac

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The missus has said "dont get one of them old bangers", it was a 94 Lancia, looks like a supra although i'll be keeping it standard if i do get one.

LeeMac

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Although these shouldnt be ignored:



sorry if this is yours

Flatlander

Go for the Integrale, i've had 3 of em' an 8 valve (The first Grale') an Evo 1 and then Evo 2 - all superb drivers cars plus a lot more 'soul' and feedback than my Scoob, BUT they are a bit unreliable and servicing and parts are V.expensive, not many good one's left though now (wish i'd kept my Evo 2). If you do go for one try to get Evo 2 Dealer collection as these hold their money best, ignore anything advertised as Evo 3 as it does not exist period. Models are as follows :-

1987 - 1989 8 Valve
1989 - 1991 16 Valve
1992 - 1993 Evo 1
1993 - 1995 Evo 2 (Kat)
1995/96 - Dealer collections (Evo 2's)

Some Evo 1's have 8 Valve engines - steer clear of these as they were built mainly for Swiss market due to emissions regulations.

As for the Supra - They handle like a skool bus with a puncture..

NotoriousREV

The only thing that would put me off having an Integrale is the steering wheel being in the wrong place, real shame that.

polarbearit

if you get a supra ignore MattN and get a manual - much quicker (6 ratios vs 4) and do modify it a little, at circa 400 bhp they are loads of fun (though scary in the wet!). Definitely worth upgrading the traction control too...

Jon

LeeMac

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Looked into the Evo's, Evo 2s, Giallo, Dealer Collection then the Final Edition, just fancy one even if its for a couple of months, would imagine they'll sell on ok as well, very tempted providing i sell the VR4.

SCOOBERATORS

I had a G reg intergrale running over 300 bhp and blew the head gasket at 150 mph but you wont believe this.The cambelt jumped 4 x teeth and didn`t bend a valve. Still cost about £800

PeterPerfect

It was really touch-and-go 4 years ago between the EVO2 and the Scooby. I ended up ordering the scoob......but still love the look of the evo2....soooo rare....never seen one on the road !!! Its a shame the wheel is on the wrong side though
Pete

IanWatson

The wheel's only on the 'wrong' side if you're in the UK and if the roads aren't clear - v easy to get used to, and when you come over to the continent for some non-gatso'd real roads it will make a lot of sense.

I've driven LH drivers in UK, and had a RHD BMW over here in Amsterdam for 3 months. After a while (and if the car is quick enough) it stops being an issue completely!

I think that when I come back to live in the UK I'll be thinking v seriously about making a saving on a 911 by buying a LHD one...

importsti

Spend 15k on a nearly new STi V5 and yo won't regret it.
Extremely reliable and strong with cheap parts.

Makes average drivers look brilliant.
0-60 in under 5 secs with no mods, wet or dry.

Big boot, less servicing needs than Evo, better cruiser for motorways etc.

Top pf the tree when u take inbto account all the day to day requirements of a car.

catflap

None of the above...

Get a westy...
Learn to pack well,
Hide on wet days
Develop a taste for flys
And don’t stop grinning