Lancia Delta Intergrale, a cult car or outdated?
#1
Does the Lancia Delta Intergrale live up to its name, or is it just a shadow of a car in the face or mitsu or scoob? Has anyone driven one, or owned one? Can they tell me if they have the power to outpace a scoob or evo? I know they are quick, but they are a real rarity on the roads! They must be worthy of cult car, even though they have a small-ish following.
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Cult - one of my all time favourites. I'd wait for Paul Palmer to post a reply - he owns one!
Did for Lancia exactly what the Impreza Turbo / Evo / Audi Quattro did for their respective companies.
Chris
Did for Lancia exactly what the Impreza Turbo / Evo / Audi Quattro did for their respective companies.
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#12
I really wanted a hf turbo for quite a while, but i dont think they are anything like the intergrale in any way. power, handling, and looks. Hey lanciachris, do you need a heft of money to look after and maintain either? As I really would like at least a HF Turbo. Any info appreciated.
Thanx for the replys BTW.
Thanx for the replys BTW.
#13
definently a cult car, one of my all time favourite cars, you just cant beat the looks of a galliano yellow evo, was looking at getting one a while back, prices were very high back then but they seem to be coming down a bit now. From what i have been told they are definently not an every day car
#14
i've owned several and they were all great. in pure handling terms you can't beat the original 8 valve integrale, slightly smaller track width, slightly less power but then again lighter...it's handling was fantastic. Moving up the evolutionary ladder all the evo's are good, faster in a straight line and more up to date (although they're all very 1970's inside). Good thing about the 8 vlave is that if you do manage to find a good one it'll be relatively cheap compared to the price of a good evo.
like i say a great, great car. the steering feel is unreal and the handling is sooo fluid. The last one i had i went on a special integrale handling course and i was taught left foot braking, how to safely get the back end out for 4 wheel drifts, power slides, etc. I've tried the same driving technique in my new WRX my03 and it's just not the same...nice car but not an integrale.
buy one you wont be disappointed. just make sure you get the AA to check over the car or better still an integrale specialist.
like i say a great, great car. the steering feel is unreal and the handling is sooo fluid. The last one i had i went on a special integrale handling course and i was taught left foot braking, how to safely get the back end out for 4 wheel drifts, power slides, etc. I've tried the same driving technique in my new WRX my03 and it's just not the same...nice car but not an integrale.
buy one you wont be disappointed. just make sure you get the AA to check over the car or better still an integrale specialist.
#16
Having owned 3 Integrales, an STI V4 type r, and now an owner of a evo 7 gsr, I can honestly say the last grale I owned was the best car I have ever had(which includes a E46 M3).
Problem is, the life expectancy of an integrale shell is really only up to 50K miles, so if your looking to buy, make sure it is a true low mileage example and dont use it every day. The low milers are actually going up now!
Problem is, the life expectancy of an integrale shell is really only up to 50K miles, so if your looking to buy, make sure it is a true low mileage example and dont use it every day. The low milers are actually going up now!
#17
I have a 1990 16v integrale, always had a strange fascination with Italian rust boxes and had alfas before this. In standard form with 200bhp I have outdragged scoobs, but to beat a mitsu would take some tweaking unless your an extremeley confident driver through the corners.
Being an older car there are less gizmos to help you out and the car relies souly on the mechanics of the engine and transmission to get you through the corners. Without a doubt it has the most communicative steering I have ever experienced.
My intention was to buy one and own it for a few months, just to say I have owned one. That was November 2001 and i still have it : ) and it has actually been reliable!!!
Anyway, just like to add that though my heart lies with the integrale having owned an old alfa 33 with a boxer engine, whenever I hear a scoob go by it puts a grin on my face to hear it go by, a truly great sounding engine.
p.s. hope to have 260 bhp in the grale soon.
Regards
Ed
Being an older car there are less gizmos to help you out and the car relies souly on the mechanics of the engine and transmission to get you through the corners. Without a doubt it has the most communicative steering I have ever experienced.
My intention was to buy one and own it for a few months, just to say I have owned one. That was November 2001 and i still have it : ) and it has actually been reliable!!!
Anyway, just like to add that though my heart lies with the integrale having owned an old alfa 33 with a boxer engine, whenever I hear a scoob go by it puts a grin on my face to hear it go by, a truly great sounding engine.
p.s. hope to have 260 bhp in the grale soon.
Regards
Ed
#19
Nice to see some good feedback for a change :-)
The integrale is a good car ,But keep some money back for servicing ,also get it inspected by a specialist before you buy !If you are looking to use it daily that shouldn't be a problem as long as you keep it well serviced .
john whalley site for info on the grale's Also Evo Corner (delphi forums) for advice and Auto integrale (reading) for servicing and spare and he has some for sale sometimes.
Ellis
The integrale is a good car ,But keep some money back for servicing ,also get it inspected by a specialist before you buy !If you are looking to use it daily that shouldn't be a problem as long as you keep it well serviced .
john whalley site for info on the grale's Also Evo Corner (delphi forums) for advice and Auto integrale (reading) for servicing and spare and he has some for sale sometimes.
Ellis
#20
I can't thank you lot enough for the info, ur truly a great bunch on this msg board. I saw a yellow evo today and he really did give it some (I was behind him on a dual carriage way) and I can't say I have seen a car "take off" quite like it. I have even more respect for them now.
#22
As Chris and Astraboy said I own one I still think they are very cool cars and could still give a scoob a run for it's money. These things are over ten years old now and can still out perform alot of modern rally replicas If you check out the integrale close up you will find that it is not a rally replica the rally car was a road car replica If you get chance look under the back of one at the rear suspension Mine is a 1991 16 valve non evo model so it is lighter and more nimble than the evo models. I perfomed a 0-60 spint with the car nearly standard of 5.63 seconds with a slipping clutch a few years back and now it's chipped and with the other work I have had done it should be down near 4 seconds the only thing is I am running it in and haven't even started the engine in over two weeks Here are some pictures
And check out this video here of me donuting the beast Not sure why it has had everything mechanical replaced since then
Here are some pictures from that 0-60 sprint
And here are the times for the day
And check out this video here of me donuting the beast Not sure why it has had everything mechanical replaced since then
Here are some pictures from that 0-60 sprint
And here are the times for the day
#24
splendid, been thinking about one of these again after all the talk, my current company wont touch me on an E30 or E36 M3 so i enquired how much for the Evo intergralle and it's only £150 extra, result!
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Still the meanest looking mother this side of a M1 tank.
If I wasn't so worried about the fragile reputation and rust I'd have bought one instead of my Impreza.
Still the meanest looking mother this side of a M1 tank.
If I wasn't so worried about the fragile reputation and rust I'd have bought one instead of my Impreza.
#26
this is what put me off getting one in the first place, i don't think you will get a more purposefull looking car.
As i will now be running two cars and it will be a fun car it is a possible option
As i will now be running two cars and it will be a fun car it is a possible option
#27
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They are only fragile if you are very brutal with them (like any car) or let some muppet work on them. I have had trouble because of idiots not really because of the way I drive I gave mine a bit of abuse but it took it then I let a dipstick work on it and I am still sorting it out now
Paul
They are only fragile if you are very brutal with them (like any car) or let some muppet work on them. I have had trouble because of idiots not really because of the way I drive I gave mine a bit of abuse but it took it then I let a dipstick work on it and I am still sorting it out now
Paul
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Thats the problem finding a good Lancia garage is so difficult I bought the scoob. I couldn't face the impracticality of travelling across the country for an oil change.
Shame really as they really appealed to me.
Don't they have rust problems like most Italian motors?
Shame really as they really appealed to me.
Don't they have rust problems like most Italian motors?
#29
i know the normal hf turbo has real bad rust problems, sunroof was one i remember, would imagine the intergrale's suffer the same although most i have seen are all mint, probably cared for better
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Thats the problem finding a good Lancia garage is so difficult I bought the scoob
Not really keen on the Integrale though -- fragile and boxy-looking. Stratos is a different kettle of fish, though