If you were building a cheap 1/4 mile car, what base car would you use?
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A guy at work is looking for a new car!
His cousin has a Nissan Pulsar GTI-R running about 280bhp and runs quarter mile at Santa Pod in 13 seconds dead.
Different turbo, 2.1 litre engine, FMIC, you get the idea!
Anyway he has about £6k to spend on a base car to try and show up his cousin!!! (More money can be spent on mods later!! )
The only stipulation is that the car will also be a daily runner and needs to be relible for his 40 miles a day to work! It will be his ONLY car!
Track cars are fine, but he really wants to 'Live his life 1/4 miles at a time'!!!
[Edited by Andy Tang - 10/14/2003 3:48:33 PM]
His cousin has a Nissan Pulsar GTI-R running about 280bhp and runs quarter mile at Santa Pod in 13 seconds dead.
Different turbo, 2.1 litre engine, FMIC, you get the idea!
Anyway he has about £6k to spend on a base car to try and show up his cousin!!! (More money can be spent on mods later!! )
The only stipulation is that the car will also be a daily runner and needs to be relible for his 40 miles a day to work! It will be his ONLY car!
Track cars are fine, but he really wants to 'Live his life 1/4 miles at a time'!!!
[Edited by Andy Tang - 10/14/2003 3:48:33 PM]
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My idea is to get a late Nissan 200SX (14a) for about £6k!
All it would need is a FMIC, boost controller and some skillful clutch control for the RWD and it should be ok!!
Just a little something above the standard 197bhp! Maybe fixed with nitrous kicking in at about 3,500rpm when on WOT.
All it would need is a FMIC, boost controller and some skillful clutch control for the RWD and it should be ok!!
Just a little something above the standard 197bhp! Maybe fixed with nitrous kicking in at about 3,500rpm when on WOT.
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my mate built a nova that does 12.4 second quarters, with mates helping him out he built it for 3K. Although it runs slicks its running a standard cam + head and no slip diff!
all he has to do is change the wheels for normal alloys (10 minute job) then he can drive it on the road
[Edited by bobfrog1 - 10/14/2003 2:53:15 PM]
all he has to do is change the wheels for normal alloys (10 minute job) then he can drive it on the road
[Edited by bobfrog1 - 10/14/2003 2:53:15 PM]
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Goochie, I personally don't like nova's either but If I was building a drag car for £6k (like the subject of this thread) I'd buy the cheapest, lightest shell I could get, imagine what a 3K 12.4 second nova would do with another 3K spend on it
I've seens lots of cars at the Street Racer Sunday league in the POD, with the exception of a few cars it would be very difficult to build a drag car that does at least low 12 second quarters for £6K
I've seens lots of cars at the Street Racer Sunday league in the POD, with the exception of a few cars it would be very difficult to build a drag car that does at least low 12 second quarters for £6K
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I've seen Nova's converted with 4wd and the Calibra turbo engine in it for about £5k!!! 200bhp through all four wheels in a box weighting less than me (probably!!! )
Gary, the 205 is a good car, but how much work would you need to realistically do, to get 1/4 miles to under 13 seconds!!! ;eek:
If it were me, the Nova would be my choice!!
Gary, the 205 is a good car, but how much work would you need to realistically do, to get 1/4 miles to under 13 seconds!!! ;eek:
If it were me, the Nova would be my choice!!
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He dont want much for the money this guy does he?
£3K would get a cossie and another couple would give him the BHP to do it I should think.
Either that or buy himself a mini (old old shape) strip it out, add a honda Vtec engine, add nitrous and the 12 second is no probs. I know that for a fact coz I got done up like a kipper at bug jam by one. Not sure it even had the Vtec, but he was running NOS and said it was around 230BHP
£3K would get a cossie and another couple would give him the BHP to do it I should think.
Either that or buy himself a mini (old old shape) strip it out, add a honda Vtec engine, add nitrous and the 12 second is no probs. I know that for a fact coz I got done up like a kipper at bug jam by one. Not sure it even had the Vtec, but he was running NOS and said it was around 230BHP
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Dax Rush 4x4 + cossie running gear..about £14 +cossie (new)
Alternative, I'm working on the idea of a Jag XJS v12 (£500), stripped out and fitted with a manual 5 speed box or 4speed auto with a strip shift kit. Engine-wise..400bhp is a doddle just by some minor fettling. And 600bhp via dropping the compression and supercharging like here or a 7.2 conversion. But the weight is still a big problem
But using the theory that in standard 300bhp 3 speed auto trim it can do 0-60 of 6.5 ish (using just 1st gear!) and the 1/4 about 15secs. A manual box is said to knock off 1 second, add another 300bhp and 300lb/ft and loose some weight, you have something with alot of potential
So you could dump the v12 for a big-block Chevy, more tunable and 100lbs lighter But costs will start to get silly!
[Edited by ALi-B - 10/16/2003 10:51:24 AM]
Alternative, I'm working on the idea of a Jag XJS v12 (£500), stripped out and fitted with a manual 5 speed box or 4speed auto with a strip shift kit. Engine-wise..400bhp is a doddle just by some minor fettling. And 600bhp via dropping the compression and supercharging like here or a 7.2 conversion. But the weight is still a big problem
But using the theory that in standard 300bhp 3 speed auto trim it can do 0-60 of 6.5 ish (using just 1st gear!) and the 1/4 about 15secs. A manual box is said to knock off 1 second, add another 300bhp and 300lb/ft and loose some weight, you have something with alot of potential
So you could dump the v12 for a big-block Chevy, more tunable and 100lbs lighter But costs will start to get silly!
[Edited by ALi-B - 10/16/2003 10:51:24 AM]
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All this was for a work colleauge, who hasn't even bothered to reply!!!
If it were me, I would be considering the following:
1) Nissan 200SX (approx £7k for S14/S14a) - 197bhp
Stage 1 Mods: Full de-cat, filter, lift boost to 1bar, fit different intercooler (probably a Saab one) - 250bhp
Stage 2 Mods: Turbo, Full ECU - 280-300bhp
Stage 3 Mods: Improve fuelling (injectors, fuel pump, etc) and re-fine map - 300-320bhp
2) Vauxhall Nova with full Calibra turbo engine, running gear and gear box. (£6-10k) - Approx. 200bhp
Stage 1 Mods: Fit Nitrous with controller (to give additional 80-150bhp)
3) Cheap Subaru - £4k (240bhp)
Stage 1 Mods: Full De-cat, filter, boost controller (265bhp)
Stage 2 Mods: Front entry conversion on TD-05, improve fuelling system, FMIC (300bhp)
Stage 3 Mods: Full ECU, port headers (320bhp)
Stage 4 Mods: Larger turbo, ECU refinement, tuned headers (350-380bhp)
4) Integra Type-R - £6k
Stage 1 mods: Exhaust, filter, V-TEC controller - (200-210bhp)
Stage 2 mods: Nitrous (250-280bhp)
If it were me, I would be considering the following:
1) Nissan 200SX (approx £7k for S14/S14a) - 197bhp
Stage 1 Mods: Full de-cat, filter, lift boost to 1bar, fit different intercooler (probably a Saab one) - 250bhp
Stage 2 Mods: Turbo, Full ECU - 280-300bhp
Stage 3 Mods: Improve fuelling (injectors, fuel pump, etc) and re-fine map - 300-320bhp
2) Vauxhall Nova with full Calibra turbo engine, running gear and gear box. (£6-10k) - Approx. 200bhp
Stage 1 Mods: Fit Nitrous with controller (to give additional 80-150bhp)
3) Cheap Subaru - £4k (240bhp)
Stage 1 Mods: Full De-cat, filter, boost controller (265bhp)
Stage 2 Mods: Front entry conversion on TD-05, improve fuelling system, FMIC (300bhp)
Stage 3 Mods: Full ECU, port headers (320bhp)
Stage 4 Mods: Larger turbo, ECU refinement, tuned headers (350-380bhp)
4) Integra Type-R - £6k
Stage 1 mods: Exhaust, filter, V-TEC controller - (200-210bhp)
Stage 2 mods: Nitrous (250-280bhp)
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Get an old E30 316 for £500, buy a 5 litre M5 lump for £5k and you're sorted
Or an early 200sx for £1k, then got 5k straightaway for mods
Renault 21 turbo 4x4 - think they're about 25p nowadays
Early 535 with a supercharger
540, can get these for 3k now - then a supercharger. And NOS
2nd gen RX7...200as std
etc etc - loads of choice.
But an E30 316 badged car with an M5 lump.....mmmmmmmmmm
Or an early 200sx for £1k, then got 5k straightaway for mods
Renault 21 turbo 4x4 - think they're about 25p nowadays
Early 535 with a supercharger
540, can get these for 3k now - then a supercharger. And NOS
2nd gen RX7...200as std
etc etc - loads of choice.
But an E30 316 badged car with an M5 lump.....mmmmmmmmmm