RWD motoring.
11 January 2005, 02:28 AM
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RWD motoring.
I just dont know what you whippersnappers see in those crazy plastic cars?! Is it because they are easy do drive?
What you really need is the challenge of a rip-snortin' retro RWD smoker, like an 02beemer, a 70's RS or a Triumph dollopo****e sprint. Loads of fun!
Go on, give it a go. Its better than looking like dealer in a baseball cap!
Hows about some o' that then, missus??
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What you really need is the challenge of a rip-snortin' retro RWD smoker, like an 02beemer, a 70's RS or a Triumph dollopo****e sprint. Loads of fun!
Go on, give it a go. Its better than looking like dealer in a baseball cap!
Hows about some o' that then, missus?? Did you miss me?
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11 January 2005, 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by bmw2002
I just dont know what you whippersnappers see in those crazy plastic cars?! Is it because they are easy do drive?
What you really need is the challenge of a rip-snortin' retro RWD smoker, like an 02beemer, a 70's RS or a Triumph dollopo****e sprint. Loads of fun!
Go on, give it a go. Its better than looking like dealer in a baseball cap!
Hows about some o' that then, missus??
Did you miss me?
Beemer02
What you really need is the challenge of a rip-snortin' retro RWD smoker, like an 02beemer, a 70's RS or a Triumph dollopo****e sprint. Loads of fun!
Go on, give it a go. Its better than looking like dealer in a baseball cap!
Hows about some o' that then, missus?? Did you miss me?
Beemer02
its shows when the wet weather arrives as i dont stand a chance..... 
11 January 2005, 02:00 PM
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Ello Beamer hows stuff.??
Hey...I was thinking of grabbing a Lotus Elan +2 130
But you know what?
Parts, chassis rust, trouble with the twin cammer, and messing with the DCOE's to stop them stitting flames would be a bit too much hard work for a daily driver
hows stuff.??Hey...I was thinking of grabbing a Lotus Elan +2 130
But you know what?
Parts, chassis rust, trouble with the twin cammer, and messing with the DCOE's to stop them stitting flames would be a bit too much hard work for a daily driver
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11 January 2005, 04:05 PM
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Speaking of rear wheel drive, I'm going to be looking at an E30 M3 in the near future. Bags of fun in the wet and the dry!!
While browsing the web though I have come across an interesting rumour about there being a very limited number of AWD versions around does anybody know anything about them or is it purely a rumour??
While browsing the web though I have come across an interesting rumour about there being a very limited number of AWD versions around does anybody know anything about them or is it purely a rumour??
11 January 2005, 04:29 PM
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beemer, what are you talking about?
the subaru is a much better car for making progress, you have never drove one have you?
oh , and before you have a go i have a 2000 328 so i am not bias at all, yes its fun but not a patch on a well sorted subaru!
the subaru is a much better car for making progress, you have never drove one have you?
oh , and before you have a go i have a 2000 328 so i am not bias at all, yes its fun but not a patch on a well sorted subaru!
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11 January 2005, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by jonny gav
beemer, what are you talking about?
the subaru is a much better car for making progress, you have never drove one have you?
oh , and before you have a go i have a 2000 328 so i am not dias at all, yes its fun but not a patch on a well sorted subaru!
the subaru is a much better car for making progress, you have never drove one have you?
oh , and before you have a go i have a 2000 328 so i am not dias at all, yes its fun but not a patch on a well sorted subaru!
RWD is ultimately best. Who are we to argue with Porsche, Ferrari, Lambourghini, Aston Martin.
11 January 2005, 05:35 PM
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Depends on the type of road sir.
RWD is ultimately best. Who are we to argue with Porsche, Ferrari, Lambourghini, Aston Martin.
RWD is ultimately best. Who are we to argue with Porsche, Ferrari, Lambourghini, Aston Martin.
11 January 2005, 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by jonny gav
what a load of bollox, all wheel drive is without a doubt best for all situations wet or dry!
Been on a track day have you sir?
11 January 2005, 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by blot
All situations???? I think not Been on a track day have you sir?
Been on a track day have you sir?My thoughts entirely. 4wd makes crap drivers good though....
4WD = Rally.
RWD = Track
FWD = err, random general cars.
11 January 2005, 10:01 PM
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There can NEVER be a 'best' option as it's all dependant on your requirements and what you want out of the driving experience.
fwd, chuckable fun, normally at relatively slower speeds and not too difficult to avoid those hairy moments.
4wd, fun to point and go (apart from those understeery ones) and you can nearly always make swift progress without having to be the best driver
RWD, ultimately more rewarding and challenging and much more fun as your driving standards improve (esp if you've got a caterfield/elise etc.) My westie pi55es all over scoobs for fun factor even if not great in crap weather (hence having a 'normal' car as well ).
It's not a complete rule of thumb though and depends on the car. My old corrado vr6 is more fun than my current omega despite it being rwd. As I said, it's about your requirements. Personally I require ulimate fun and comfort (can't do this in one car) so I got two, one each to do the job I want.
If anyone says XYZ is best, then you have to ask, at doing what? for example, scoobs aren't great at powerslides but a good RWD is. Getting home quickly in the rain on crappy roads then the scoob is more suitable. cliche time, horses for courses.
fwd, chuckable fun, normally at relatively slower speeds and not too difficult to avoid those hairy moments.
4wd, fun to point and go (apart from those understeery ones
) and you can nearly always make swift progress without having to be the best driverRWD, ultimately more rewarding and challenging and much more fun as your driving standards improve (esp if you've got a caterfield/elise etc.
) My westie pi55es all over scoobs for fun factor even if not great in crap weather (hence having a 'normal' car as well ).It's not a complete rule of thumb though and depends on the car. My old corrado vr6 is more fun than my current omega despite it being rwd. As I said, it's about your requirements. Personally I require ulimate fun and comfort (can't do this in one car) so I got two, one each to do the job I want.
If anyone says XYZ is best, then you have to ask, at doing what? for example, scoobs aren't great at powerslides but a good RWD is. Getting home quickly in the rain on crappy roads then the scoob is more suitable. cliche time, horses for courses.
11 January 2005, 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by bmw2002
I just dont know what you whippersnappers see in those crazy plastic cars?! Is it because they are easy do drive?
What you really need is the challenge of a rip-snortin' retro RWD smoker, like an 02beemer, a 70's RS or a Triumph dollopo****e sprint. Loads of fun!
Go on, give it a go. Its better than looking like dealer in a baseball cap!
Hows about some o' that then, missus??
Did you miss me?
Beemer02
What you really need is the challenge of a rip-snortin' retro RWD smoker, like an 02beemer, a 70's RS or a Triumph dollopo****e sprint. Loads of fun!
Go on, give it a go. Its better than looking like dealer in a baseball cap!
Hows about some o' that then, missus?? Did you miss me?
Beemer02
11 January 2005, 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Doink
Speaking of rear wheel drive, I'm going to be looking at an E30 M3 in the near future. Bags of fun in the wet and the dry!!
While browsing the web though I have come across an interesting rumour about there being a very limited number of AWD versions around does anybody know anything about them or is it purely a rumour??
While browsing the web though I have come across an interesting rumour about there being a very limited number of AWD versions around does anybody know anything about them or is it purely a rumour??
You do want to get an E30 as they are great cars, only a few minor mods to make even better......Z3 shorter shift stick (pennies from dealer), E36 tensioners for the timing chain (gives extra life on a worn chain), Miltek pipe (you wont believe the difference it makes).
12 January 2005, 10:14 AM
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Odd examples but RWD IS best.
F1 car? RWD.
F1 car? RWD.
4WD was & still is banned from F1 ...not sure why ...probably the same reason it got banned from TOCA
12 January 2005, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by DazW
Did you type that in with your elbows? ...seeing as you fingers are in your ears?
Nope. Just stating a fact.
4WD has its uses but for a top end road car, with big power and usable on track RWD is the ultimate.
Fastest cars in the world. Ford GT, McLaren F1, Carrera GT.
Own a scoob do you?
13 January 2005, 11:42 AM
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Nope. Just stating a fact.
4WD has its uses but for a top end road car, with big power and usable on track RWD is the ultimate.
Fastest cars in the world. Ford GT, McLaren F1, Carrera GT.
Own a scoob do you?
4WD has its uses but for a top end road car, with big power and usable on track RWD is the ultimate.
Fastest cars in the world. Ford GT, McLaren F1, Carrera GT.
Own a scoob do you?
Did a bit of digging & got some Nurburgring times for both ...TT 7.56, GT2 7.46 in the dry with the same driver ...So a RWD GT2 is 10 seconds a lap quicker (or 1.3% quicker!), whether this is down to RWD or whether its down to the GT2 having 50 bhp more, being 100kg lighter, Having wider tyres or bigger & better brakes im not sure?
& If anyone can tell me why 4WD is banned from F1, GT & Touring Cars id love to know? ...Can’t surely be because it’s not much use? Otherwise why ban it?
As for fastest cars in the world, I’m sure the Veyron will join that elite ...If it ever sees the light of day that is!
& No, I don’t own a scoob ...& im not sure of the relevance anyways?
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13 January 2005, 09:49 PM
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AWD was banned from Touring Car Championchips because these cars were able to power out of a corner earlier and were superior in corners in the rain. Guess they were less fun to drive though...
Why AWD is banned from F1 I don't know bit the drivers steer the front wheels with the steering wheel and the rear wheels with the accelerator.
Why AWD is banned from F1 I don't know bit the drivers steer the front wheels with the steering wheel and the rear wheels with the accelerator.
13 January 2005, 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by falkster
Thats rubbish mate. The only 4WD E30 was a 325ix (I could be wrong with exact model) and I think they were only for the US market.
You do want to get an E30 as they are great cars, only a few minor mods to make even better......Z3 shorter shift stick (pennies from dealer), E36 tensioners for the timing chain (gives extra life on a worn chain), Miltek pipe (you wont believe the difference it makes).
You do want to get an E30 as they are great cars, only a few minor mods to make even better......Z3 shorter shift stick (pennies from dealer), E36 tensioners for the timing chain (gives extra life on a worn chain), Miltek pipe (you wont believe the difference it makes).