jb2000

has to be a vauxhall lol

out March 10


Monaro

gso

beast i want one!

slim_boy_fat

350bhp 350+lbft and ONLY 0-60 in 5.6sec. PMSL what a slow piece of junk

Must be fatter than me lolss

DanTheMan

very nice and one of the few engines that sounds nicer than a flat4

what would scooby do

Yup most V8's are a match for the flat4 burble.. mind you I still wouldn't want to drive a poxhall

Rumplestiltskin!

So a Subaru has a better image then ???
DanTheMan's Monaro is awesome, I wouldn't give a toss about the badge......

Jay m A

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I don't give a stuff about the badge, I've got a Subaru FFS. VX220 turbo? yes please, Monaro? yes please

stza

is that slow? its not all about 0-60 ya know!!

ShizoMaNizo

i think they are awsome, but i don't do badge snobbery so i would

nothing wrong with holdens....erm i mean v/hall

Vec

I'd have one!!

swiftnick

me to

Paul_M

Hmmm not sure on the V8 noise, I recently picked up a 540i V8 and sure it sounds nice but not as characterful as the scooby burble. Maybe the BMW is a bit too refined, can only really be heard at full chat and even then it's very civilised sounding.

Standard exhaust and intake though. Wouldn't fancy changing the exhaust on a 540i, it's a full dual system with separate pipes for each bank! So standard it stays.

Have to admit I do like the look of the Monaro, who cares about the badge. As long as they didn't inherit the Vectra reliability standards though

druddle

The VXR looks like a proper weapon, but as mentioned its still a Vauxhall. And you do need to be wearing a flowery dress to drive one.........

Rumplestiltskin!

I suppose if vauxhall brought out a 300bhp 4wd car with scoops & bulges everywhere for less than £20k then many would buy one who previously wouldn't have been seen dead in a Vauxhall.

hold on a sec......didn't Subaru do that about 9 years ago.....?

hades

1) It's not a Vauxhall, it's a Holden with a Vauxhall badge on.
2) Vauxhall and Holden amongst others are all part of General Motors. Today's trivia question - name a famous Japanese car company who has strong ties with General Motors. Then tell me why the badge should be a problem.
3) Why do 4wd car owners assume their car is much faster than anything else because it has a better 0-60 time? I'd bet the only place e.g. a UK STi will beat the monaro in a drag race is off the line. Once rolling, especially in gear, I know where my money would be. "Round the twisties", the scoob might win a race, but I bet the big, powerful rwd car would be more fun if you can drive it well.

The scoob is a god car, but why do some owners have an inferiority complex and have to try and put down other cars that are different and in some areas better?

b.t.w. I'm a scoob owner, who would seriously consider a Monaro VXR.

DanTheMan

Unfortunately Scoobs have very predictable sticky handling, theres nothing like coming out of a corner/roundabout with smoke pouring from the rear arches and a pair of black 11's marking your progress

Mitchy260

Most of the people who brag about impreza 0-60 times can't launch it for **** hence not many people will achieve the quoted times.

You only need to look on the drag strips where clio cups are ahead by the end of 1st gear to work that 1 out.

willipdarling

Hi there i own an impreza, its a sport so doesnt get the burble that your turbo models get, but i regularly work on a jensen. This is just over 6 litres and is a v8, and believe me there really is NO comparison between the two. Especially at tick over, maybe your bmw is too refined. Go and listen to an american classic, thats a proper v8 and the sound is truly awesome. But before any one says anything the scoob lump sounds equally as nice.

Sith

It took me a while to get to grips with a fast launch. But **** me, I got it smack on the other day and thought I was going to pass out from accel g. I was in first gear for all of two seconds and I managed to hit 7500 rpm.

Monaro VXR, Oh YES PLEASE. I've always loved the Holden HSV's.

To the chap with the 540. Get a Sports cat stainless system missing the silencers, get a Gruppe M carbon intake system. Your Beemer will sound

Paul_M

It may well do, but at a price! Even the factory exhaust on this is silly expensive because it's two separate pipes for each bank all the way to the back.

I bought this as my daily runaround, so would rather not be throwing cash at it tempting as it is. Besides I actually like the fact that the engine is almost inaudible unless you're gunning it... maybe I'm getting old (mid-20s crisis)

Sith

Don't forget thats BMW prices....and it's just excuses, you know you want to.

Oh yeah 540i as a runaround What's the weekend car? A Pagani Zonda...

Paul_M

Well mate you were right about that V8 sound! I didn't de-silence the 540, rather went and bought myself an 840Ci which has the 4.4 V8 but singing through a sports system as standard (these cars all have them - spot the 4 tailpipes a-la E39 M5).

Sounds fantastic when gunning it . Still very civilised on part throttle, even cruising at 90 in 6th gear on a private road the engine/exhaust is inaudible leaving only tyre noise (although that is pretty substantial with 265s on the back). Open it up and it's an awesome deep roar, very sports car like. My economy is sitting at 18 MPG according to the computer because I can't resist giving it a bit of stick all the time to hear it sing

Definitely fancy the idea of a Monaro in a few years time when the savage depreciation has taken its toll

screechmr2

i know this'll offend some people, but i'm sorry guys, a vauxhall is no more a womans car than a scooby, most of the scoobs i see are driven by women, a monaro is a lot more manly than a scoob, rwd is not as sissy and dull as 4wd, what about a vx220 turbo it's also a lot more manly, again with superb rwd handling.

and what makes a scoob such a up market car compared to a vauxhall? if a cars good it doesn't matter about the badge, the vx220 turbo is an awesome beast as well.

chrisp

1647kgs though thats some serious weight about 213bhp/ton.

I will stick with my 258bhp/ton thanks.

TurboMav

Good point

Skoda springs to mind..... alot of people still associate them as being crap.

DanTheMan

Forget flywheel hp, my Monaro is pushing ~350 at the rear wheels and should be good for 170+ granted it's heavy but there are no 4wd losses to worry about, good for drag racing in the dry but admittedly requires TC in the wet.

The only thing it can't do is baby seats, thats why its for sale

chrisp

350 @ fly and 350 @ wheels, efficient transmission .

So I guess yours is not standard ?

MJW

I think they're pretty good and its good to see Vauxhall finally bring some of the HSV stuff over here. Don't forget there's already loads of off the shelf engine modding stuff around for these cars - I'd imagine you could get more power quite easily

Shark Man

Most Scoobs (especially with the blitz BB's ) sound like a unsilenced VW camper van with a missfire to me

DanTheMan

I wish it was that efficient

It was standard for about 7 days, then changed the manifold for a pair of stainless CAPA 4-1 headers, removed the cats and changed the entire exhaust for a 2.5" system. Changed the MAF and stuck on a carbon intake then took it to Abbey Motorsport and was very impressed.

Vauxhall (GM) deliberately detune the car so that it fits in the heirarchy i.e. Corvette - HSV - GTO etc but the engines are almost identical and are so easy to tune.