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Old 05 June 2005, 03:16 PM
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Default Trackday Video: CSL @ Oulton 1m59s

This one's not too bad (better than the last one that was posted anyway!), but it's just one lap.
Needed to back-off over Hill Top to let a faster Radical get by safely, and ran just a bit too deep into Lodge (final corner), but still sub 2mins.
Sorry it's 46Mb as I wanted to keep some quality in it, especially the sound.
It's an AVI file using the XVid Codec.

There were a few people interested in a more 'committed' lap when the last one was posted, so hope you like


Removed now as I need my webspace back!

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Old 05 June 2005, 03:55 PM
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CSL's are the dogs nackers!!!!!! Love those cars.
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Only needed to watch the first 40 secs to see that you were turning in far too early and missing the apex's..... Go back and try again

Got to love the sound of the car though.......

Gary
Old 05 June 2005, 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Gutmann pug
Only needed to watch the first 40 secs to see that you were turning in far too early and missing the apex's..... Go back and try again

Got to love the sound of the car though.......

Gary
Shut it you!!! LOL
Old 05 June 2005, 04:03 PM
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Sorry just telling the truth ..... looked like you weren't using the whole road and going in 10 yards too soon. Now the radical is a different story

Gary
Old 05 June 2005, 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Gutmann pug
Sorry just telling the truth ..... looked like you weren't using the whole road and going in 10 yards too soon. Now the radical is a different story

Gary
I gave the apex kerbs at Old Hall and Cascades about a foot or so.. but I think it's ok apart from that. Other than that all the road was being used!

BTW I prefer the central line into Cascades, versus the right-hand-side approach, as there's less camber and it doesn't appear any slower.
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I just get a black screen? I have pretty much every codec too...
Old 05 June 2005, 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Edcase
I just get a black screen? I have pretty much every codec too...
Got the XVid codec? I use the Klite pack.
Old 05 June 2005, 05:19 PM
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Thanks for sharing, the car sounds the business!

You made a couple of strange gear changes though, (0:52, 1:05 and 1:26 secs) you changed up a gear before you had even properly exited the corner, I would suggest using a gear higher and see how that feels.

Using a lower gear sounds fast, feels fast, but in most cases is slower.

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Old 05 June 2005, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by davyboy
Thanks for sharing, the car sounds the business!

You made a couple of strange gear changes though, (0:52, 1:05 and 1:26 secs) you changed up a gear before you had even properly exited the corner, I would suggest using a gear higher and see how that feels.

Using a lower gear sounds fast, feels fast, but in most cases is slower.

Dave
Hmmm...

0:52 - changing from 2nd -> 3rd on the red-line (8500)
1:05 - same as above
1:26 - same

I've tried using 3rd through those corners and there doesn't seem to be any benefit over the lap.
Old 05 June 2005, 05:42 PM
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I was aware you were using 2nd.......I know when I used 2nd there, it all felt a bit messy.....in fact I cant remember the last time I used 2nd on any track.
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As you say, using 3rd would not sound as good... and I've tried it many times (and seen the data logs) and found it makes no difference overall.
Old 05 June 2005, 06:02 PM
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Well, my cars 15 years old, so a bit of mechanical sympathy comes in to it
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CSLMan are you also a member of bm3w.co.uk ?
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Originally Posted by m3csl
CSLMan are you also a member of bm3w.co.uk ?
I guess you could say I was yeah ;-)
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Im thinking it doesn't matter what anyone says, you wont be pursuaded that you could do better.....
I havent driven Oulton so my comments should be disgarded, just saying what I saw.

Gary

ps maybe you should spend more time on Northloop

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Old 05 June 2005, 08:59 PM
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Yeah, I reckon you could go faster, give me a passenger ride and I will give you all the pointers you need....

Those Radical things are quick to make you look like you were pedalling it, jesus, the CSL is a hell of a quick car by any stretch.
Old 05 June 2005, 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by CSLMan
I guess you could say I was yeah ;-)
Whats your username on there?
Old 05 June 2005, 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by davyboy
I was aware you were using 2nd.......I know when I used 2nd there, it all felt a bit messy.....in fact I cant remember the last time I used 2nd on any track.
When were you last at Knockhill
Old 06 June 2005, 06:27 AM
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....I am sure there are others too

Cadwell maybe? Mallory?
Old 06 June 2005, 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by davyboy
....I am sure there are others too

Cadwell maybe? Mallory?

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Old 06 June 2005, 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Gutmann pug
Im thinking it doesn't matter what anyone says, you wont be pursuaded that you could do better.....
I havent driven Oulton so my comments should be disgarded, just saying what I saw.

Gary

ps maybe you should spend more time on Northloop
Oh god, far from it

I'm only a regular trackday enthusiast, and despite doing over 1500 laps of the place it's still handy to get pointers from more talented people. But having done so many I have had the opportunity to try (and data log) many different approaches to various sections of the circuit and actually see (in data) the differences.

As it turns out I may not drive Oulton again.. may be giving trackdays up for the time being. So that one may be the last one ever! haha
I will stick to visiting Nurburg though as it's a totally different experience (the place, the people, the food - fab).
Old 06 June 2005, 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by CSLMan
.. may be giving trackdays up for the time being. So that one may be the last one ever! haha
I will stick to visiting Nurburg though as it's a totally different experience (the place, the people, the food - fab).
Thats what I have done, and I don't regret it for one minute. Expensive but worth it.

DAve
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Originally Posted by CSLMan
Oh god, far from it

I'm only a regular trackday enthusiast, and despite doing over 1500 laps of the place it's still handy to get pointers from more talented people. But having done so many I have had the opportunity to try (and data log) many different approaches to various sections of the circuit and actually see (in data) the differences.

As it turns out I may not drive Oulton again.. may be giving trackdays up for the time being. So that one may be the last one ever! haha
I will stick to visiting Nurburg though as it's a totally different experience (the place, the people, the food - fab).
I like to think I'm learning all the time. You think you have something cracked then someone takes you for a pax lap and blitz's a corner you normally have a little comfort lift on.

data log is a bit technical for me, I prefer a good old stop watch or timing from datum points on video.

I will take the ''more talented people'' comment in the tongue in cheek manner im sure its meant

Gary
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Originally Posted by CSLMan
I guess you could say I was yeah ;-)
Nice one Elliot

I just bought Richie's car about 10 days ago
Old 06 June 2005, 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by davyboy
Thats what I have done, and I don't regret it for one minute. Expensive but worth it.

DAve
Same here
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Originally Posted by Gutmann pug
I will take the ''more talented people'' comment in the tongue in cheek manner im sure its meant

Gary
No it wasn't meant like that at all - it wasn't just aimed at you, it was a generalisation. Saying that, I've seen your Nordschleife videos which are all excellent, so credit where it's due.
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....a few more days and I shall be back there!

Should get the tally for the year up to around 80 laps
Old 06 June 2005, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by davyboy
....a few more days and I shall be back there!

Should get the tally for the year up to around 80 laps
Guess I will see you over there Dave ..... well actually I will see you at the airport, then in the hire car, then at Ring racing, then on the track too


Silly question but do either of you CSL guys know the owner of HV54 xxx he is the one armed CSL owner who seems to be there honing his way around evertime we go. Fair play to the guy considering his disability. A nice guy he is too.
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I've seem him about, but yet to say hello to him personally


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