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Old 27 August 2005, 05:28 PM
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Default Cheap high reving JDM track Malarky...

The STi is a weapon on the trackdays However... the quicker I get the more I think I'll stuff it one of these days so got me thinking, again..., about a track car..

The high reving type R engine into an older shell... many about ? Anyone seen any examples around?
Old 28 August 2005, 01:16 AM
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Hi,
Do you mean a CRX with a type-r (B18-C5)? There is a few about, anyhows the ITR are getting cheap-ish now (5-6k etc).

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civic vti (vetech) about 160bhp in i think 1.6 quite rapid
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Hi,
Do you mean a CRX with a type-r (B18-C5)? There is a few about, anyhows the ITR are getting cheap-ish now (5-6k etc).

Kam
Not up on Hondas, I assume thats an older shell with a new Type R block? Explain. Cheers
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Maybe try something that challenges you on track, instad of using 4WD to do the work for you, you may find that at lower speed you enjoy yourself a lot more.

Ive watched a few Impreza's on track, and they go round the corner with the wheels screeching slightly, while the driver simply turns the wheel and lets the car handle the rest, saw that at Nurburgring too, but although they are quick, you may as well stay at home and play your playstation.

Compared to a car with RWD and no aides to do the work for you, the Impreza is capable but boring, and doesnt present much of a learning experience for the driver, but it depends if you want to feel like a great driver on a track, or actually be one.
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Id look for an early RA, theyre cheap as chips, especially after number three has destroyed the crank..... Find a low mileage late New Age engine, use either the original electronics or an A'Pexi PowerFC and you're away. The sweetest handling Impreza with the least plasticine-like engine...

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Originally Posted by SideShowBob
Maybe try something that challenges you on track, instad of using 4WD to do the work for you, you may find that at lower speed you enjoy yourself a lot more.

Ive watched a few Impreza's on track, and they go round the corner with the wheels screeching slightly, while the driver simply turns the wheel and lets the car handle the rest, saw that at Nurburgring too, but although they are quick, you may as well stay at home and play your playstation.

Compared to a car with RWD and no aides to do the work for you, the Impreza is capable but boring, and doesnt present much of a learning experience for the driver, but it depends if you want to feel like a great driver on a track, or actually be one.
I agree, TBH still hankering afer as S14... lot of rear end malarky and prices good too. S13 if I could find a non rotten one. I can still see me picking up an S14 at some point.
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Originally Posted by GC8
Id look for an early RA, theyre cheap as chips, especially after number three has destroyed the crank..... Find a low mileage late New Age engine, use either the original electronics or an A'Pexi PowerFC and you're away. The sweetest handling Impreza with the least plasticine-like engine...

Simon
Good option but would like to try the FWD civic simply becase it looks liek a laugh... but for the rear end interest.. (heh heh) too many Drift vids methinks.. the S14 would do the trick... but..... would mostly like a MK1 Escort with Cossie engine.... ahh don't get me started... lol
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EK9 CTR (182bhp from a 1.6) is a good option out the box may cost you upto £8k though.
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Originally Posted by cheddar bob
EK9 CTR (182bhp from a 1.6) is a good option out the box may cost you upto £8k though.
Lot of power from a 1.6
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I used to own an EK9 JDM CTR, revved safely to 9100, think it was 212bhp n/a out my little 1.6, used to be my track day monster, only issue is FWD is no RWD.

Having tasted RWD for 2.5 years thats what I would stick too, Caterfield type cars are cheap to insure, and cheap to run on track, whilst huge grin factor, otherwise an Elise, which you can now pick up for 9K+
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Originally Posted by Type R
I used to own an EK9 JDM CTR, revved safely to 9100, think it was 212bhp n/a out my little 1.6, used to be my track day monster, only issue is FWD is no RWD.

Having tasted RWD for 2.5 years thats what I would stick too, Caterfield type cars are cheap to insure, and cheap to run on track, whilst huge grin factor, otherwise an Elise, which you can now pick up for 9K+
212bhp as standard? wow.

If I were going RWD would opt for an S14 due to budget but still hankering after a Mk2 Escort..
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Originally Posted by SCOOBYD00
212bhp as standard? wow.

If I were going RWD would opt for an S14 due to budget but still hankering after a Mk2 Escort..
They are 182bhp (or sometimes quoted as 185bhp) as standard and only were available in Japan.

To get that 210bhp+ I'd imagine you'd need a 1.8 stroker kit or ITB's or wilder cams along with the usual breathing mods/re-map which would cost ££££'s. Honda's quoted figures are usually optimistic to say the least, most standard UK Integra Type R's RR at 170-175bhp even though it's quoted at 187bhp.

Mk2 Escort :drool: pity they cost so much though
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Originally Posted by cheddar bob
They are 182bhp (or sometimes quoted as 185bhp) as standard and only were available in Japan.

To get that 210bhp+ I'd imagine you'd need a 1.8 stroker kit or ITB's or wilder cams along with the usual breathing mods/re-map which would cost ££££'s. Honda's quoted figures are usually optimistic to say the least, most standard UK Integra Type R's RR at 170-175bhp even though it's quoted at 187bhp.
Right and wrong, my power was with standard internals, 1.8 stroker would have improved the torque, mine was RR at 172bhp at Power station standard, I spent an arm and a leg trying to get kit to work, we revved it upto 9600 but got valve bounce so set the Rev limit to 9100.

The b18c is the better of the 2 engines, better off starting with one iMHO
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