silverscoobydan

Hi

A mate of mine has a ST170 so he is on their forum. He mailed me this link to check out the Power Engineering TURBO conversion. My god 291bhp from a ford!!!!!

http://www.ffoc.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=89449

What do ya think?

Dan

Daniel-S

It's ok,could have a bit of a problem with torque steer though

New_scooby_04

iTrader: (4)

Very impressive. Nice to see some great service from Powerstation and that he's really happy with the car. Kinda cool to have a such a "wolf in sheeps clothing"; the best we can hope for is a great white in a wolfs clothing if we modify our cars to even higher power outputs.

My only reservation is all that power and torque through the front wheels!?!?! My guess is that its going to need very careful handling through the corners and off the mark and that if its raining, its probably best to leave it in the garage!

Its gonna surprise a lot of peeps in a straight line though!

Best wishes to him with it!

NS04

New_scooby_04

iTrader: (4)

LOL a bit harsh, I'd hardly call a Focus a turd. I had a go in the TDCi version and was most impressed with its real world performance and ride and handling.

Only downsides were the terrible grabby brakes and agressive clutch...but then it was a hire car!

NS04

Danny B

Sour grapes..

silverscoobydan

The power to the front was my concern. They say the Astra VXR (with ONLY 240bhp) is a real hand full. The torque steer must be a real pain.

I thought the headers could have been better made. I would have thought a one piece section was possible rather than welding so many pieces together. It would also improve the gas flow.

If I ever meet the guy on the road "I'll beat him in the twisties" LOL
Dan

logiclee

A nice project and good work by PE.


291bhp from 13psi is a good result.

Cheers
Lee

Andy M3

I think it is a great achievement - however the Focus RS has the LSD, brakes, seats, wheels and already 200hp turbo. Would that not have been a better start - or am i missing a point somewhere !?!?

Andy

Big a1

I suppose that the ST doesn't look fast, whereas the RS is percieved to be a fast car so wouldn't make a very good 'sleeper'.

See your point though.

Stiver3

The same reason why WRX owners spend money on mods only to get it up to STi spec, why not buy an Sti in the first place?

The same can be said on alot of cars...

The focus is a great achievement , nicely done and a proper street sleaper.

Tobisausage

I think he was supposed to write

'narrow minded troll'

Dream Weaver

Nothing wrong with the Focus at all, fantastic cars and one of the best i've owned

trackman

I'm no expert (obviously power engineering are), but I see no mention of an uprated clutch or gearbox. Won't they struggle to cope with such a dramatic power increase?

I may have missed something, so feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. Obviously a lot of money has been spent and I don't want to sound negative, but I thought it was worth mentioning.

Fabioso

That looks like a really good result, good on your m8!!! How much did the project cost him in total ?

Fabioso

Sorry just read the £7800, ouch that alot of dosh but that bhp doesn't come cheap I guess!!

Personally myself I'd probably opt to buy a turbo charged car with around 220 and take it to that kinda bhp abit cheaper. But all credit to your m8 cos he's got a one off and I bet it surprises the hell out of drivers with allegedly more potent exotica

PG

LMFAO !! How very true !

Cabinet Enforcer

The getrag 6 speed box in the ST is a very strong unit, and the clutch is probably good for 350-400 ft/lbs, we'll find out for sure when he gets it down to Pod and sees if he can match the big boys with their focus RS'

silverscoobydan

As far as know the ST170 comes with brakes, seats, wheels as standard. Dont most cars!!!! LOL

However the RS is a more expensive option to start with and the cost to tune the RS to almost 300bhp is ££££thousands on top.

New_scooby_04

iTrader: (4)

LOL I think he meant that the basic 170 didn't include many of the options as standard that you'd want on it e.g. the nice sports seats so ended up being rather uncompetitive when spec'd up compared to say a Civic Tye R. It's also slower than other hot hatch rivals.

BUT.... people will be getting a shock now eh! Also, I like the look of the ST170 more, classier and more understated than an RS....ironic coming from a Scooby owner I know!

NS04

DonnieDarko

apparently you can!

i'd still rather have my 55 wrx thanks all the same.

is that still an fwd? 291bhp through the front wheels and people say scoobs understeer? good luck with the tyre bills

Simon170

Hi guys, its my car in the thread. Thanks for comments, most seem fair and balanced :-)

I'm over the moon with the car, it goes so well its untrue. The chassis deals with the power really well, which was a nice suprise! Theres almost zero torque steer,with 284lbs/ft theres enough of it, but its just seems to cope really well.

I'v been down a few country lanes to see how the hanldling copes. I was really happy with the way it went, it can spin if you really want it to, but thats true of most turbo cars I think.

Who ever it was that said the ST was classier and sleeker on here......thats why I bought the car, I test drove the RS bit it wasnt for me to be honest, but horses for courses I guess :-)

I'm heading to the pod on the 23rd to see what she'll do, I'm hoping for low 14's high 13's. which I reckon it will do. Launching will be tricky, but looking at getting a plate diff soon to get more grip off the line.

Thanks again for comments, never been on here before but you all seem a real decent bunch, cheers!

Simon :-)

trackman

My post was concerning the integrity of the standard clutch/gearbox setup. I thought they would turned into semolina by such a high increase in power. It appears that they will stand up to it though according to one of the ffoc members.

So if your claims of very little torque steer are true, you have a very nicely sorted car there matey

Enjoy!

Simon170

Oh by the way, I might have met a few of you, I work at Power Engineering at weekends and do the rolling road days :-)

New_scooby_04

iTrader: (4)

That would be me. I think the ST170 is a handsome car -much more so that the RS- and I like the idea of a wolf in sheeps clothing. Like I said, its something us Scooby owners can't acheive really cause pretty much all Imprezas advertise their potential.

Do be careful in the rain- that's not intended as 4wd snobbery, it's just I drove a jabba chipped Leon in the wet and it was scary!! It is difficult to put that much power through the front wheels, but if any FWD car that I've been in can pull it off it'd be the Focus.

Have fun with it!

NS04

Simon170

Thanks mate, I havent driven it in the rain yet so it could well be a nightmare, we will have to see.


Yeah wolf in sheeps clothing was what I was going for. I know what you mean about a Scooby not being a shrinking violet, but damn they make the best noise ever!! :-)

Focusbird

Apparently Simon's is coping quite well with the amount of power, he has around 280 lbs/ft torque which will be what kills his clutch if anything.

Mine was running 292bhp with the standard gearbox (and still is now I've settled at 226bhp 226 lbs/ft torque) but I've uprated the clutch to an AP Racing 4 puck paddle clutch


LOL Bloody FFOCers, you get everywhere!!!!

New_scooby_04

iTrader: (4)

Yep, thats how I got into them actually, I didnt see my first scooby, I heard it!

Tyres will go a long way to negating any unruly behaviour in the wet, although they can only do so much! :-)Goodyear Eagle F1s are very highly regarded on here, particularly in the wet, so may be worth looking into.

Also, if you should fry your clutch I can highly recommend the Exedy organic clutch. Very easy to use (unlike most paddle clutches) and tough- some scoobies with 400ft lbs torque have them fitted with no problems.

Let us know how you get on!

NS04

Simon170

Well my cars being discussed, what your excuse to be here? lol When you coming to take a ride then? :-)

New Scoob - Thanks for the heads up on the clutch, I have my eye out for a new one at the moment so thats a help, ta. I had the Good year Eagles on my Escort, they were amazing in the wet!

craigdmcd

iTrader: (2)

Sorry, nice Focus, BUT, what's the story on the RS200 in the background?

Focusbird

LOL Two Scoobs in the family and like you, I love the sound of them Anyway, you can only hang around FFOC for some long before it becomes 'same old same old'