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Old 19 December 2005, 01:54 PM
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This is an interesting read.

http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?t=74166

Please dont start a flame war, its non std Vs std, so this is more for interest!!
Old 19 December 2005, 02:00 PM
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to let the oil temp cool down! It was reading 150C.

That doesn't sound good!!

0-60 and he demolished me 0-100mph and the sti was a good few lengths in front 0-130mph was even stevens

So the Sti type R is faster in real word speeds than a Cupra R with Nitrous then? I'm also guessing its oil temp was not 150C!!

No need for a flame war me thinks!

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Old 19 December 2005, 02:01 PM
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One of the only few things I liked about my Revo'd LCR was the in-gear acceleration.
Never ever inspired confidence to push on B-Roads.

LOVED the look of the car though, still do.
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read it! interesting, but nitrous is cheating imo. would like a go on that airfield and show these clio boys the time.
Old 19 December 2005, 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by bob r
read it! interesting, but nitrous is cheating imo.
Bit like turbocharging
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His Cupra R had both!!
Old 20 December 2005, 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by New_scooby_04

So the Sti type R is faster in real word speeds than a Cupra R with Nitrous then? I'm also guessing its oil temp was not 150C!!



NS04
Nah. It just has better traction.

I could well believe a 150C oil temp, on my last car the oil temp gauge read like a speedo above 100, although it wasn't working the time I did do 150, it did read 130C at 130mph on a previous occaision.
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Originally Posted by New_scooby_04
to let the oil temp cool down! It was reading 150C.

That doesn't sound good!!

0-60 and he demolished me 0-100mph and the sti was a good few lengths in front 0-130mph was even stevens

So the Sti type R is faster in real word speeds than a Cupra R with Nitrous then? I'm also guessing its oil temp was not 150C!!

No need for a flame war me thinks!

NS04
0-60mph aint real world speeds, drag strip yes. 40+ is a more real world test.
Old 21 December 2005, 09:36 AM
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Just read it all, and at least he gave a honest opinion. And seems a good website, not one person on there was slagging a scooby off, and seemed to have respect for both cars.

161mph was good going, Would love to know what my scooby would get on a private airfield.
Old 21 December 2005, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by scoobyboy1
Just read it all, and at least he gave a honest opinion. And seems a good website, not one person on there was slagging a scooby off, and seemed to have respect for both cars.
Cupranet unlike most other cars sites isn't singularly biased towards its own. How refreshing
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Originally Posted by RR
0-60mph aint real world speeds, drag strip yes. 40+ is a more real world test.
Really? Lights to national speed limit for a B road? Besides, the scooby was ahead to 130mph. Whatever the reason, the scooby won to sensible speeds and proves, once again, why its the daddy!!!

I have to say that the Leon sounds like a giggle though! I'm actually a fan of the Cupra R, fine cars, the pick of the VW hot hatch brigade if you ask me.

Ns04

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Old 22 December 2005, 01:38 PM
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Sti Vs cupra isnt exactly like for like, wonder how the two stack up on the level.... WRX Vs Cupra r. Anyone owned the two back to back??
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Originally Posted by New_scooby_04
Really? Lights to national speed limit for a B road? Besides, the scooby was ahead to 130mph. Whatever the reason, the scooby won to sensible speeds and proves, once again, why its the daddy!!!

I have to say that the Leon sounds like a giggle though! I'm actually a fan of the Cupra R, fine cars, the pick of the VW hot hatch brigade if you ask me.

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from a standing start. Rolling start and the cupra kicked ****.
Old 22 December 2005, 02:01 PM
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Horses for courses really...cupra been modified quite a bit

You throw some money at a standard Type-R and im sure it would be a different story altogether.

Would I own a Cupra-R.............you betcha best looking hot hatch out there.

Good read
Old 22 December 2005, 02:05 PM
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But how regularly can u use the Nitrous ? Surely it's not for every lights pull away ? So it's a bit false. I think it's impressive the Sti did that well against such a tuned beast.
Old 22 December 2005, 04:49 PM
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A remapped Cupra R is more than enough for the front wheels away from the lights. NOS only needed in 3rd and above.
Old 22 December 2005, 06:53 PM
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The owner of the website does drive a Type UK though.

Well he did...not sure what he has now.
Old 22 December 2005, 07:05 PM
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The Cupra R needs nitrous to out pace a Type R !!!

But even with that was beasted to 60

Rob
Old 22 December 2005, 07:51 PM
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yes thats because he said he cant use the nitrous till 3rd gear and in a drag race you wont be using 3rd to reach 60 will you.
Old 22 December 2005, 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by mg driver
yes thats because he said he cant use the nitrous till 3rd gear and in a drag race you wont be using 3rd to reach 60 will you.
What's your point ??

Who said anything about using it to 60

People bang on about the Cupra being as quick off the mark.

Rob
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Originally Posted by scoobfan
What's your point ??

Who said anything about using it to 60

People bang on about the Cupra being as quick off the mark.

Rob
No they dont, they say the exact opposite. But also think of the chav factor, the cupra driver drives around in a respected smart looking motor, the sti driver has his baseball cap on backwards and shellsuit from the 80's, look at the image the classic sti shapes portray its not always about 0-60.

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Originally Posted by RR
No they dont, they say the exact opposite. But also think of the chav factor, the cupra driver drives around in a respected smart looking motor, the sti driver has his baseball cap on backwards and shellsuit from the 80's, look at the image the classic sti shapes portray its not always about 0-60.
Yawn. Not the old baseball cap backwards again. Come on get a mind of your own. You are only copying what other ill informed people have said. The only image problems these cars have is the ones numpties like you create. Try using a bit more imagination and creativity in your posts please.
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Originally Posted by scoobfan
The Cupra R needs nitrous to out pace a Type R !!!

But even with that was beasted to 60

Rob
And up to 130mph according to the aticle- that's what I was saying at the beginning!!

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Originally Posted by sgcooby
Yawn. Not the old baseball cap backwards again. Come on get a mind of your own. You are only copying what other ill informed people have said. The only image problems these cars have is the ones numpties like you create. Try using a bit more imagination and creativity in your posts please.
Coming fom someone who thinks Burberry is for old folks-and ones with bad taste at that- and who happens to own a scooby: well said that man!!
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Now where's me baseball cap..... DAMN IT!!!!!

NS04
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Originally Posted by ChungsterSTI
The owner of the website does drive a Type UK though.

Well he did...not sure what he has now.
haemoroids?
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Originally Posted by RR
No they dont, they say the exact opposite. But also think of the chav factor, the cupra driver drives around in a respected smart looking motor, the sti driver has his baseball cap on backwards and shellsuit from the 80's, look at the image the classic sti shapes portray its not always about 0-60.
Baaa Baaa Baaa

Rob
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Its the same with any car you get. They usually have a negative image portrayed by some. Feel sorry or me; I drive a saxo vts! Cracking little car, but I do get sick of the image sometimes. Drive the Scooby with pride, it's such a good car and most people would have one over any Seat.
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Ho Ho Ho, merrrryyyyyy Christmas everyone.
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Originally Posted by Mitchy260
Only because of the 0-xxxmph

The car had to make up for the mauling it got off the line which in day to day life simply wont happen!
>50- top end was definitely in my favour

So you're saying that 0-100 is irrelevant for everyday driving

The STi kicked won up to speeds that matter.

What this thread demonstrates that even a car that is not exactly slow in the first place with nitros still can't catch a std Sti Type R till 130+ and doesn't show a demonstrable advantage till 100+mph. All this from a car that can do that comes with a 3yr warranty (in Japan) and will deliver that degree of performance all the time. How long will the Leon last with nitros.....not anywhere near as long I'd suggest.

Merry xmas all.

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very good read that post, cupra must have long ratio gearbox. in my old battle axe wrx 93 i am reaching for 5th around 110mph. are there many uk tracks you can hit over 130mph


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