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Old 05 March 2006, 05:18 PM
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This months mag .......... In the top ten cars they would like to bring back from the dead as they were icons ....

106 Rallye
205 GTi
306 Rallye

Pretty much the whole 90's french clutter family. It seems there are other people who love these old sheds
Old 05 March 2006, 05:46 PM
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Not sure if I'd class the 106 or the 306 as ikons even in rallye guise!!
Old 05 March 2006, 05:47 PM
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Guess its irrelvant what you think though, EVO mag seem to like them though. Although its fair to say they didnt use the word icon / Ikon / Ikea that was just my artistic license My those frenchies know how to make a great car.....

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They are all entertaining "old sheds", if nothing else.

My first car was a 205 (not a GTi, but they all had nice chassis). I also think my daily commute-mobile 306 handles at least as well as the scoob, even though it has a lot less ultimate grip. Have been in the Rallyes, and they are both rapid and a lot of fun. Therefore, I can sympathise
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306 Rallyes are quicker than standard bug WRX's aren't they ? Seems a good package to me
Old 06 March 2006, 09:34 AM
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At least the French still have cars to call their own.

What were the criteria? - I would say Triumph Dolomite Sprint.
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From memory the 10 were .......

205GTi
306 rallye
106 rallye
Puma
mitsi 3000GT
accord type R
coroda
968CS
Renault alpine or maybe the Honda crx
Cossie (3-door)


There was a big bhp dolly at combe last year, big **** turbo. The guy was doing his best to impress in the wet on full slicks.

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I had a 1.3 106 Rallye and despite a few (read Fooking loads) of reliability issues it remains the most fun car i've owned. Brilliant, would love to own a brand new one!
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There was an asterix against the Mitsi 3000 GT.

The asterix equaled the statement "only joking" !!
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I wuz gonna say! 3000GT was supposed to be a soulless lard-****!
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http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthr...d=41921&page=1

http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthr...d=41926&page=1

306 is up there as best hot hatch ever as well as 5th in car of the year.

As such, it is an iconic car - in every sense.


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Originally Posted by Gutmann pug
coroda
Eh? What the hell is one of those? Do you mean Corrado?
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Its a cross between a corrado and a seat corbado, corbeau, cobra ...
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Originally Posted by Petem95
Eh? What the hell is one of those? Do you mean Corrado?
Oh, I thought it was the Toyota Corroda (rusting corolla)...
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i had peugeot 306 rallye-superb car only 1 sec slower to 60 and 100 than bugeye wrx-on a private track, sold it to buy my first subaru still miss it.
supposedly peugeot are trying to recreate theit hothatches with new 207 but i will not hold my breath
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Originally Posted by Gutmann pug
This months mag .......... In the top ten cars they would like to bring back from the dead as they were icons ....

106 Rallye
205 GTi
306 Rallye

Pretty much the whole 90's french clutter family. It seems there are other people who love these old sheds
Nice!
Old 06 March 2006, 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Gutmann pug
Guess its irrelvant what you think though, EVO mag seem to like them though. Although its fair to say they didnt use the word icon / Ikon / Ikea that was just my artistic license My those frenchies know how to make a great car.....
Yeah they sure do know how to make "a great car", the word "a" being the important bit. 205 was superb and then.....................well, nothing.
Old 06 March 2006, 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by JCScooby
Yeah they sure do know how to make "a great car", the word "a" being the important bit. 205 was superb and then.....................well, nothing.
You've obviously not been in a GTi6
Old 06 March 2006, 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Gutmann pug
You've obviously not been in a GTi6
Been in my mates Xsi 16v which is the same engine but with a 5 speed box and its fairly nippy, obviously i know u will say its not a Gti-6 so i can't compare but the 306 just does'nt do anything for me.
After 5 years of 205 ownership i still have tunnel vision when it comes to hot hatches, biggest mistake ever was selling it. It could have sat in the Garage and then been used for track days
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No the XSi isnt the same engine ...... less power, 150bhp I think, as opposed to 167bhp...def not the same engine. The rallye uses the same engine as the GT16 but is slightly lighter.
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Originally Posted by Gutmann pug
No the XSi isnt the same engine ...... less power, 150bhp I think, as opposed to 167bhp...def not the same engine. The rallye uses the same engine as the GT16 but is slightly lighter.
Yeah but the XSi was normaly an 8v and the 16v was quite rare, the 16v im sure is the same Engine Block as the GTi-6 but with slightly different compression and a few other things to "de-tune" it. Then again i'm maybe wrong.
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XSi and GTi-6 blocks are different. Best tune an XSi had was the same engine as in the 206 GTi with around 133bhp. The XSi wasn't a patch on the GTi. I've had 2x1.9 205's and a GTi-6 plus a few XSi drives when I was looking! The GTi-6 is a natural progression from a 205, almost as much fun (considering things got a bit more refined) with superb brakes.
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I had a brand new 106 rallye on an L plate in white, superb handling and quite quick.Wish I still had for the grin factor. Then p/x'd for a new GTI 6 on a P plate, One of the first pre face lift 306 GTI 6's. Not alot would keep with it, The 306 Rallye was quicker but had little in the way of comforts.
Sold this for a Discovery V8
Now back on the path with an 03 STI PPP.

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Old 07 March 2006, 07:49 AM
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The difference between a GTi6 and the rallye must be pretty minimal as I think the weight difference was only about 20KG .......Hardly worthwhile, but I'd still have one
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Originally Posted by Gutmann pug
The difference between a GTi6 and the rallye must be pretty minimal as I think the weight difference was only about 20KG .......Hardly worthwhile, but I'd still have one
Cheap interior as opposed to leather/alcantara. Less sound deadening. That is it.

Strip a '6 and strip a Rallye and you have the same car. Rallye's also can have A/C as it was an option.

GTi6 is the dogs bollox - I'm not just saying that cos I own one.
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xsi-135bhp,s-16 155 bhp, gti-6 167bhp rallye same bhp but feels much faster than gti-6.i had a race with a mate gti-6 vs rallye rallye pulled ahead and kept ahead,swapped cars same result
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Oh my God!!! The Rover is faster on paper than the 306!!!!!! I feel sick...

Have an S16 - and I thought they were 164bhp?

Incidentally, I think I'm about to be a complete dick and splash out on a manifold, long duration cams and throttle bodies. Been to Pug Perfromance - all those open bonnets with gleaming throttle bodies (OK, covered in sht would be lightly more accurate!!) and now I can't help myself!!!

I am more excited about modding the Pug than I am about my sccob!
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