v8voodoo

Hi all,

Looking at the above two cars, they seem quite evenly matched bar the mpg..!!

Does anyone have or know the in gear mid range accelaration times i.e. 50-70, 70-90, and also 0-100 for both...?

Also opinions welcomed on them....


Cheers,
Nige.

GCollier

All being well we're supposed to be collecting my (well actually my wifes) 335d M-Sport touring in about 10 days, so can post my findings then. Chose it over the 335i because the massive torque (more than my RS6!!!) should make it faster in real world conditions, better fuel economy and the likelyhood of better residuals.

Gary.

v8voodoo

Gary,

I'd be very interested in your findings....
Did you drive both and were they much different behind the wheel..?

Nige.

fatherpierre

Do a search.

I'm sure there's a similar thread that's been thrashed out for this or the same engines in the 5 series.........

GCollier

We didn't drive a 335i petrol. In fact we haven't driven a 335d yet either - ordered it on the strength of a 330d test drive which way exceeded our expectations. We were basically shopping for a car for my wife, drove the Octavia vRS petrol and diesel, then the 320d and 330d, and after the 330d there was simply no going back so we went the whole hog.

Gary.

v8voodoo

Fair play to you mate..!!!!

I've had a run in the petrol and I'm looking forward to my back to back test drive next....

raymie

IMHO the diesel would be more torquey than the petrol, i had a 530i spotrt and 530d sport and it felt quicker off the mark?

both awsome cars

GCollier

How did you find the petrol 335?

Going for the 335d wasn't all good though as we'd set a budget of turning my Audi + £10-12k into two cars. Going for a nicely spec'd 335d means the other car (my car!) will probably end up being an old banger!

Gary.

Mike123

A guy gives his impression of the 335d vs the 335i in "Total BMW" mag this month - he preferred the petrol but I guess it depends how much of an issue fuel cost is to you.
I've driven the 335i and thought it was a great engine but if I was forking out 35-40k I'd be having a test drive in both to decide

v8voodoo

Smooth, fast and comfortable. Very quiet and deceptively fast. It wasn't hard to run out of road or get stuck behind another car very quickly indeed. A glance at the speedo showed three figures rather rapidly and not feeling like it at all . The smoothness could be a bit dangerous after my scooby which felt like it was doing 100mph when it was. I've read a write up of it describing it as the "silent licence loser". I could see why. The car I drove was the auto with paddles too and the shift is instant and again, smooth. Seemed far faster than my WRX, but much more effortlessly and less brutal at around 3000rpm. I couldn't feel any lag on the BMW whatsoever.

As you can tell, I was seriously impressed with it.

ac427

nice motor, how many miles do you get from a tank?

and does the wife ever get to drive it?

v8voodoo

ac,

Not got one at the moment..!!!

Did some maths and it works out around 500miles on the d and about 400miles in the petrol. IIRC, it's about £50-55 to fill them up. That's on the published combined figures too. I get about 250/280 miles out of my WRX's £45 tank..!!

compshack

I've driven both back to back. I was lent a 335d for the sfternoon a few weeks ago. Very impressive. They are all auto by the way. I found the auto box better in the 3 than my 535d, faster changing and you have the paddle shift's the streering wheel. But on overall speed I wouldn't say there is much in it.
I would say you would have more fun in the petrol, one reason being the sound and the higher revving engine. Of the 2 I would proberbly go for the 335i.
But of the BMW coupe's out right I would still go for the M3 CS which is what I am swopping my 535d for on Tuesday.
The same price as the specced up 335i but still the better and faster car.
SE Coupe's are also going to drop in value when the M sport edition comes out early next year. Another reason why I didn't buy one now.

Petem95

Who'd buy the 335 petrol? At the price that comes in at you might as well splash out another £4-5k and go the whole hog and get the soon to be released 400bhp V8 M3. On the other hand if fuel cost is an issue, you get the 335d!

Sub97

Someone who wants very good performance, but a bit more comfort from the ride of the car perhaps.

weasel_uk

Test drove a 335i for an afternoon.

Marvellous playful character and snap. Lovely 6-pot roar to the exhaust when wound up. Didn't even feel like a turbo. And the automatic I tested was VERY crisp, the sport mode was like an animal compared to some limp Sport modes I have tried in other brands. The 19" rft the demo had were also a positive surprise - I expected to rattle my teeth out when looking at the tiny band of rubber, but while firm they were much, much better than expected.

But, picking up my new E92 335D tomorrow. I'll let you know how it goes

Yes, the 335i would be more fun (in an ideal world) but I just don't use roads where I could use it fully without losing my license. Realistically - who does ? It thrives on revs.

I can probably go just as quickly, without drawing attention in the 335D .. and with much better economy. It's fantastic for a lot of town/suburb driving I do where I would be using more of the peak power/torque, more of the time than a 335i. Plus, I love the towering torque for effortless cruising. Most reviews comment on that low down torque :

"With 282bhp and 428lb ft of torque driving through a vastly improved six-speed automatic transmission, the 335D Coupé delivers the sort of performance that makes even BMW’s mighty M6 feel slow off the line."

and also:

"Acceleration builds quickly, but that’s not to say power comes in suddenly and tails off – consistent, responsive performance is delivered across the rev band. Linked to the superb Steptronic six-speed auto (there’s no manual), it makes the 335i petrol version feel flat at low revs. Smooth, hushed and well mannered, it may not sound as enticing as its stablemate, but in everyday situations, the 335D is faster."

And if you DMS a 335D you will see over 500 lbft .....

All depends on personal preference and/or rooted pre-conceptions Neither is a bad car. Far from it.

D.

compshack

I don't think you'll be dissapointed with the 335d it is a monster of a car. If you are after low profile but high performance you couldn't have picked a better car. I did look at getting a saloon for a bit more practicality, but still went for the M3.
On my afternoon razz with the 335d I borrowed, even driving it like a looney I still got 30mpg, which is great for a 3l twin turbo car.
Post pics when you get it.

RobEvo5

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Can't wait to see what a tuning company can do with either of these.

Near M3 performance out of the box, but with a remap and zorst and either could be a E46 M3 slayer.

paul2070

My choice would definately be the 335D (Sport Tourer).

Back in February we started to look around at getting another car,and initially had a look at the 535D Sport,and i was completely blown away by the way that accelerated,but stupidly ended up buying an E46 M3 instead................worst mistake i have made on any car,so now just waiting for a bit of depreciation on the 335D and i will definately be buying one.

I think there are still a lot of people around that have not driven any of the modern Turbo Diesels and just don't realise how good they really are nowadays...................all that lovely torque,and easily modded for more .

51st state

as already quoted , why buy anything but the 335d

people talk about speed and power of petrol, i'd like to see a race from manchester to london between a petrol and diesel car, and i bet all those petrol lot would be in for a shock
i am a diesel person, i think most petrol cars are obsolete days,
even with the likes of a basic bmw, why have a petrol engine
any diesel they make will do 40+mpg, and cruise at 100mph which will lose you your license,
so were does petrol make it case, petrol engines are obsolete, not needed, race purposes only, and even there 24hr le mans was won by diesel audi,
uk roads are not the nurburgring,

weasel_uk

Only put about 40 miles on her last night

But, what a car.

I traded in my last car, S-Type 4.2 which I bought new 3 years ago and the BMW 335D is WAY, WAY smoother and effortlessy quicker in power delivery (firmer on the suspension). Brakes miles better, handling like on rails Makes me smile. Perfect Q Ship.

And anyone who knocks the i-drive needs their head looked (or should probably just admit that they don't understand it and it is all bit beyond them): The real-time display of traffic jams etc on the sat nav map is amazing ... and all other functions integrated seamlessly together with speech control.

With a reset trip computer and some gentle (still letting things bed-in) but squirty driving the trip computer reckoned I was getting 31 MPG.

The Jag on a cruise across Europe all day would give max 26 .... so to see 31 mpg for spirited town driving in a tight motor made the corners of my mouth move closer to my ears.

And at anything above walking speed you don't hear anything that would let you know it is a Diesel. Really hushed at 30 mph.

Smiling.

D.

Some poor pics ...

compshack

Nice one weasel.
Those coupe's do look the dogs. Do you have to run these thing in? AFAIK you don't anymore.
Open those taps

weasel_uk

Handbook (I actually started reading it !) suggests it. Even differentiates between Petrol and Diesel. I know some people advocate a hard-driving break-in. But I keep my cars and don't subscribe to that.

I've rebuilt a few engines and like to slowly bed them in (let everything get aquantainted with each other and warmed up thoroughly) and then gently feed in more power as the miles pile on. Even driving around last night I could feel it smooth out.

And ... even though I have the paddle shifters and the Steptronic I never once even thought about using them (Only realised that after I parked). Primarily as the new ZF Auto is just SOOOOOOOO good (seamless, super swift) and the torque means its just zooms/oozes effortlessly away with lightly brushing the accelerator

Very impressed. Makes the Jag 4.2 V8 feel positively flaccid.

Never thought I would ever see the day I had a Diesel. Should have done this sooner.

And, when I get the urge for some petrol, rorty high-revving fun .... I have my tuned MK1 Escort RS2000

I am like a dog with two tails this morning !

D.

Sandman

I went from 2001 WRX with mods to a 335d Coupe, only done 1700 miles,very very impressed, had a few plays but nice and gentle seeing about 32mpg mixed use, torque is wonderful !! oh it monstered a 330 i petrol. I had doubts being a petrolhead, but its smooth and quiet apart from start up,still getting used to it though.....the seat infuriates..to get in the back seat requires you to press and hold a button on the seat which then powers it forward etc.Not too good if its raining etc and then the same to put it back.

Sandman

51st state

my mate has just bought a 55plate, 535d
nice car, black with M5 rims
he's telling me its been remapped and will go off the clock(170mph)
and more torque than a 911,

anyone know if this could be true, or where the remaps are done, (company name) cheers H

MattOz

H,

535d's are regularly remapped by DMS to over 300bhp and more than 500ft/lbs of torque. They've got more torque than a 911 and even a new M5 as standard! A thoroughly awesome motor car.

Matt

v8voodoo

Update on how the 335's are going, please gents..?

Christmas and New Year have delayed me a bit, but still looking...

AudiLover

dont bother. New c-class is gonna monster it

Janspeed

iTrader: (1)

C-class is for teh olde ppl!

Matteeboy

Evo just prefer the 335i over the 335d but then they hate diesels.

Over 400lbs/ft of torque has got to be rather handy!

An RS6 and a 335d?

Some people have all the luck!!