DiddyWRX

So the real question here is WHICH is the better/more tunable and more powerful car?

Someone I know (total idiot) has just bought a 3.0 twin turbo Supra and is boasting just how fast and how much better it is than a scoob and all his chav idiot mates all agree.

Now correct me if I'm wrong but I would say a 4WD, turbo charged, lighter car for one is gonna get off the line quicker, 2 is much more tuneable for cheaper money and 3 really is the better car bang for buck.

3k for 240bhp, then another 1k for what, 300 odd bhp. Cant argue with that!

The Chief

A Scoob in various states of tune i.e. 300 400 500bhp is not that uncommon, and make it a formiddable weapon especially if its a Classic

However road going Supras have been known to push 1000bhp plus, and once rolling are just simply phenominal

The Chief

Straightline speed is not everything y'know.

get him on a twisty B road

DiddyWRX

B roads sound fun! hehe!

Isn't it true also that the Supra weighs as much as a bus lol

LG John

Scooby will handle better but Supra will be a formidable a-road weapon. LOL, that you thought there was any hope in a straight-line!!! Prior to buyin my 300bhp sti-5 I drove a 340bhp TT supra. With some rock n' roll off the line the STI would win a 1/4er mile drag and be quicker to 100mph but the Supra spanks it on a roll! Take a TT supra and add BPU (basic performance upgrades) mods and you are good for 400bhp and that's enough performance to crush most scoobys. Getting up to 500bhp from a daily driver isn't that hard and you can get supra's up to 600-700-800bhp and more if you go mental.

I cannot stress how much a well tuned supra will utterly destroy a subaru in a straight-line.

As for bangs for bucks you get Ferrari/911 turbo performance for under £10k in a TT (including cost of car!!) and it'll run forever.

jonc

UK Supra's are around 320bhp standard and easily tunable to 500bhp as it is to tune an Impreza to 350+bhp. I think the TopSecret guy, I forget his name, has one tuned to 1100bhp. He was here in the UK a few years back trying to break 200mph up the A1(M) in his 1000bhp Supra. I think he got up to 197mph before the boys in blue turned up and sent him packing back to Japan. Seen them on the track at a few JapFest shows and they're pretty much the fastest cars on the track along with the Skylines and despite there weight, they do handle. I'd say a well driven Impreza is gonna have a hard time trying to keep up with a well driven Supra. I think there are a few videos on Youtube by Best Motoring testing Supra's against Impreza amongst other Japanese performance cars.

wrxcraig

supra in a diff league imo, easly tuned on standard internals to gain 1000bhp, nearly brought one myself but the kids werent sat safe in the back, the overall drive, performance is the best i,ve experienced so far.

borat52

Doesn't a supra hold the nurburgring record for tuned street car? If thats true then it must handle.

Always wanted a supra - its next on my list after I finish spending money on the scoob.

Andy M3

I think you are being a little blinkered, but it is a Subaru forum so I will let you off

I paid £1300 for my cracking FSH Volvo 850 T5 - a further £200 got me beyond 300hp with only 1350kgs to haul around. Insurance was £350 mods declared, it did 22mpg average and went beyond 150mph. Midrange pace was ferocious, a touch quicker than a 996 C2, almost as brisk as a B7 RS4 and I serviced it every 10k. Downside for me was handling, steering, traction and of course it is a Volvo.

Bang for buck – you can’t beat it

Point is there are pro's and con's to everything......

DiddyWRX

Bugger and there's me thinking I could laugh in his face as I thought the Impreza was better for tuning, owning and running....maybe time to sell...joke

ScoobyJawa

I've had both. In terms of your question on which is more tuneable/powerful - its the Supra without contest. In terms of off the line and on the straight, a scoob might get the edge to start with but will struggle. A supra can do 0-60 in 5 secs, the auto a bit slower but theres no chance of bogging the gear and easy to launch (and they autos are VERY good). Over 3 figures and you are history in the scoob.

Basic mods to the scoob - exhaust, dawes, decat etc saw me with around 265-270bhp. Basic mods to the supra, exhaust, decat and boost controller will see you with as near as dammit 400 horsepower.

600bhp is about the limit on stock internals, but the block can go over 1000, and its far more built proof than an RB26 (which I have also had if anyone tries to call me biased!).

Sure on a back road the supra will have to work to keep up with a scoob. For handling and chucking the scoob wins, for crusing, fast a roads etc, the supra IMHO.

kammy

As pointed out, a Supra TTs are uber quick- 3lite, Straight SIx, twin-turbos. My bro in law has one and it scares the carp out of me. Handling is good, just not Evo/Scooby good

Tobisausage

They do look like they should be driven by hairy chested medalion wearing handle bar moustached aviator clad tight curl permed men.

ESH

Nah you've got that mixed up with the previous gen Supra

Nice but not my cuppa, I'll stick with my Scoob

ScoobyJawa

How so original I suggest you get to a Supra meet then and meet a cracking bunch of people, nothing like that and lots of cracking totty which now drive them.

(and just to point out I no longer own any of the cars mentioned).

Tobisausage

Thanks for the suggestion but I can't think of anything worse than going to a 'supra meet'.

hmmm actually a 'Celica meet' might be worse.

(lol at your edit)

Shark Man

Supra TT = King 50-100mph times on these are insane. Remember this was the car that severly embarrased various Ferarris, Lambos and GT-spec Porsches; it could outrun them, until it hit the unfortunate speed limiter. A scoob barely keeps up, until it hits 100mph afterwhich, its left for dead....and thats before they are tuned

Obviously don't confuse the TT (UK version) with lower spec non-turbo turbo versions, and the older models which obviously aren't as powerful.

ScoobyJawa

I can, a modern chav infested scooby meet

DiddyWRX

Wow I've opened a big can of worms

Supra's are too big

Andy M3

http://youtube.com/watch?v=FRE6lTl7So0

Is this car a TT?

myblackwrx

iTrader: (1)

comparing 2 completely different cars is quite hard 1 is a rally derived family saloon the other is more of a GT cruiser.
I've been in a 600bhp Supra and it was fecking quick in a straight line but pushing it into bends was a little worrying.

Shark Man

Can't view (no you tube at worky)

But, don't make me dig out my back copies of Performance car.

IIRC supra's tested in gear 50-70 time was 2.9 seconds....now what was the Porkers?...(seriously, I can't remember...how convienient ).

Edit, I belive GT2 was 4 seconds, but don't quote me.

wrxcraig

this one has been converted to a single turbo but iirc its about 600bhp

sbk1972

Ive had both, a sti version 6 coup r with mods (rolling road 350bhp) and a facelift supra TT auto with mods (rolling road at 351bhp). Yeah, the sti beat it to 60, not by much, but 60 and above my supra would blast past it. I know this as my bro and I used to race each other in them :-)

I used to love the 4x4 in the sti though, as in the wet the supra is a delicate sod. Fuel / mpg in the sti was awful, not that the supra is much better, but christ on a bike !

One thing I found was that the supra was far more reliable. My sti used to play up, turbo issues, clutch, etc etc. I sold off my sti as it was just too £££ to maintain. Ive still got my supra tt although Ive now given it to my bro. In 7 years of ownership, the other thing which broke on my supra was an electric window wire.

Both nice cars, but the supra takes it for me, hence why I kept it.

SBK

fivetide

iTrader: (1)

I've had both and have to echo the other comments. a TT would whip a WRX and show heels to most STi's too as long as the road was dry. They handle better than you'd think too but RLTC is an absolute must as is a raw egg under the accelerator in wet conditions.

5t.

Beef

Exactly what he said.

If you want to "race" one in a straight line, which is what you seem to be talking about, you will at best get the jump from a standing start. From a roll they are extremely strong, and you will need to have some serious firepower of your own to stick with one.

AudiLover

supras crap all over STI's let alone a lowly wrx

wrxcraig

i had my friends supra over a weekend as i was looking inot buying it, but as i stated already, the kids couldnt fit safely in the back but this had twin hybrids, but the driving position is a lovely place to be in, your low down and everything is based on the driver, smooth power delivery. I couldnt and didnt really want to test it in the twisties but down a straight without realising i was hitting excessive speed.
as soon as my little boy is out his car seat, i will have one on the drive. They also seem quite cheap to insure, last time i checked it was around £800, 26yr old, 4yr ncb and 6 pts but the supra NA aurotop was dearer lol.

Prasius

iTrader: (1)

*ignoring AL's comments.. but..*

I'd think twice about going up against a Supra TT in my PPP'd STI on a duel/motorway; I would expect a seriously hard time keeping with it unless the road was soaking, and then still think the Supra would be pretty scary. A B-road or back road, I think I would probably be more comfortable driving at speed than the Supra driver would be - thats not saying I think it would be totally one sided; just the Supra driver would be working far harder than me.

A WRX?? I think you'd have difficulty keeping with it on a good B road - let alone anything else.

I have a great deal of respect for that cars ability.

Neilo

i keep with most in my WRX