Scoobs gone - new car's here..!
#1
Scoobs gone - new car's here..!
Sold the scoob earlier, this week.
Lots of reasons but ultimately wanted something less extreme, more refined and easier/cheaper to run.
Obviously have sacrificed a lot of performance but tbh I never got to use anywhere near it's potential on the road..
So the new Bartopmobile is...
A Ford Focus !! 8-) well, Ford Focus ST 500 actually - Special edition run of the last of the old shape.
First impressions - nice interior, big step up from the scoob. Performance, no slouch but not in the same league as the Scoob but I knew that. Still, fast enough and really easy to drive, controls feel light but not too bad, will miss the quick shift from the Sti though.
Some nice toys to play with - voice control of the telephone, stereo, aircon etc is a laugh but probably not something I would use much. Heated seats, park assist and dual zone aircon though will be nice..
Overall much more refined, quiet, easy to drive and easier to live with, cheaper to run and fast enough for the sort of driving I do day to day so all in all am happy so far !
Not mine but to show what's possible with just a bit of TLC
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Lots of reasons but ultimately wanted something less extreme, more refined and easier/cheaper to run.
Obviously have sacrificed a lot of performance but tbh I never got to use anywhere near it's potential on the road..
So the new Bartopmobile is...
A Ford Focus !! 8-) well, Ford Focus ST 500 actually - Special edition run of the last of the old shape.
First impressions - nice interior, big step up from the scoob. Performance, no slouch but not in the same league as the Scoob but I knew that. Still, fast enough and really easy to drive, controls feel light but not too bad, will miss the quick shift from the Sti though.
Some nice toys to play with - voice control of the telephone, stereo, aircon etc is a laugh but probably not something I would use much. Heated seats, park assist and dual zone aircon though will be nice..
Overall much more refined, quiet, easy to drive and easier to live with, cheaper to run and fast enough for the sort of driving I do day to day so all in all am happy so far !
Not mine but to show what's possible with just a bit of TLC
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#2
Nice ST i had an ST2 last year bought a dreamscience unit(plug n play i think race + takes it to 275bhp) and it transformed the car well worth the money .
Last edited by Followme; 11 July 2008 at 06:37 PM.
#4
Another ST owner here too, I love it I thoroughly recommend the Magnex cat back exhaust, improves the pops and bangs, isn't stupidly loud and doesn't mask the lovely engine noise in the cab. If you're a paying member of the ST Owners forum you get a discount too
#5
Mine was 292bhp & 355lb/ft so no slouch but it's essensially a fast armchair.
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#10
Nice!
Looks good I've never heard of the ST500 though ...
Will you really save any £'s though as it must be pretty juicy still (perhaps not quite as savage the the Scoob) & the car tax must still be up there
TX.
Will you really save any £'s though as it must be pretty juicy still (perhaps not quite as savage the the Scoob) & the car tax must still be up there
TX.
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Told you, you would end up selling even with the extra mods Hope you got what you wanted for it.
Very nice car the focus, but interesting choice considering what you were looking for and considering what you came from. i.e In terms of refinment, image, build quality, I would have thought they would be fairly similar but the STI would be bonkers quick unlike the ST.
suprised you didn't go the german route. But I am sure you will enjoy and be interesting to see how you get on with it over time, as I have considered a 5 door ST2/3 on a few occassions now.
Very nice car the focus, but interesting choice considering what you were looking for and considering what you came from. i.e In terms of refinment, image, build quality, I would have thought they would be fairly similar but the STI would be bonkers quick unlike the ST.
suprised you didn't go the german route. But I am sure you will enjoy and be interesting to see how you get on with it over time, as I have considered a 5 door ST2/3 on a few occassions now.
#16
Lovely motor, now go and buy a Dreamscience Stratagem sharpish!!!
I thought the ST was fairly slow when I bought it after running my 200bhp 205 for 5 years, it didn't stand a chance against the 205 in std form.
Now with the DS unit, 271bhp and 330 torque it's the other way round, the ST will trounce most stuff out there, best £340 I ever spent (second hand with 4 lives left, they are £500 new).
Just buy one without a second thought, it makes the ST into the car it should have been from the factory.
Just after I fitted the DS I was up against a 300bhp STI with 3 of us in the car, all big lads, and we could keep up no issue!!
I thought the ST was fairly slow when I bought it after running my 200bhp 205 for 5 years, it didn't stand a chance against the 205 in std form.
Now with the DS unit, 271bhp and 330 torque it's the other way round, the ST will trounce most stuff out there, best £340 I ever spent (second hand with 4 lives left, they are £500 new).
Just buy one without a second thought, it makes the ST into the car it should have been from the factory.
Just after I fitted the DS I was up against a 300bhp STI with 3 of us in the car, all big lads, and we could keep up no issue!!
#19
They all essentially do the same thing so it depends what you want.
Code:Red is done at Wolf straight onto the ECU and you have no handset for it AFAIK, Bluefin has a single map and handset, DS has 5 different maps that you can change whenever you want raning from 255bhp up to an unspecified but higher than 271 BHP figure for the DSCi map.
Plus the DS only takes 4 or 5 minutes to reprogramme the ECU so when its going in for service/warranty work its a simple swap back to std.
I'm going for the K&N and cat back next.
Code:Red is done at Wolf straight onto the ECU and you have no handset for it AFAIK, Bluefin has a single map and handset, DS has 5 different maps that you can change whenever you want raning from 255bhp up to an unspecified but higher than 271 BHP figure for the DSCi map.
Plus the DS only takes 4 or 5 minutes to reprogramme the ECU so when its going in for service/warranty work its a simple swap back to std.
I'm going for the K&N and cat back next.
#21
Lol - don't start me off !
Code Red comes with a Red handset as well I believe along with a performance filter according to their website - quoting 270 bhp / 410 nm for Stage 1
Code:Red Chiptuning - Code:Red Modultuning Stufe 1 für Ford Focus ST 225 310050
Think I will go for Dreamscience though..
Code Red comes with a Red handset as well I believe along with a performance filter according to their website - quoting 270 bhp / 410 nm for Stage 1
Code:Red Chiptuning - Code:Red Modultuning Stufe 1 für Ford Focus ST 225 310050
Think I will go for Dreamscience though..
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Went to Goodwood in my mates Focus ST at the weekend - not impressed at all. Not as exciting as the Focus RS imo.
Thought the interior was crap to, are Scoob interiors still that bad that the Focus is a big step up
So how do they drive with the increase in power?
Thought the interior was crap to, are Scoob interiors still that bad that the Focus is a big step up
So how do they drive with the increase in power?
#23
Like a different car
I wasn't impressed much in std trim, you had to wait to 4k rpm and the turbo would kick in briefly at 0.6 bar.
Remapped, the turbo kicks in at 2500rpm with 1.2 bar and holds it until 6k rpm, maybe thats why i'm doing 19mpg though
It really is night and day from std to remapped, unreal!!
I'm really loving the Focus now - it's a million times nicer to drive than our family car, 2006 Civic 2.2 ctdi which I thought was great when we bought it. The ST is a quick car, cheap to run (except fuel) and is a very smooth vehicle to drive around in, you can make good progress very easily in it and the seats are excellent - I thought they were too high at first but they are very comfy.
All in all it's a great car to own so far.
I wasn't impressed much in std trim, you had to wait to 4k rpm and the turbo would kick in briefly at 0.6 bar.
Remapped, the turbo kicks in at 2500rpm with 1.2 bar and holds it until 6k rpm, maybe thats why i'm doing 19mpg though
It really is night and day from std to remapped, unreal!!
I'm really loving the Focus now - it's a million times nicer to drive than our family car, 2006 Civic 2.2 ctdi which I thought was great when we bought it. The ST is a quick car, cheap to run (except fuel) and is a very smooth vehicle to drive around in, you can make good progress very easily in it and the seats are excellent - I thought they were too high at first but they are very comfy.
All in all it's a great car to own so far.
#24
+ 1 with Simon
Had my ST for just over a month now and really liking the drive, very relaxed and comfy with nice handling. Miss some of the toys of my Z4 but not much!
As mentioned, feels a bit pokey in standard from, but with the Dreamscience on its a different car - has no problems keeping up with most things
Had my ST for just over a month now and really liking the drive, very relaxed and comfy with nice handling. Miss some of the toys of my Z4 but not much!
As mentioned, feels a bit pokey in standard from, but with the Dreamscience on its a different car - has no problems keeping up with most things
#26
AFAIK yes, a few threads have said as much at focusstoc.com although I tend to run on Tesco 99 as its not much more and its local to me.
If you PM Jared on the Focus forum he will confirm it, username is Dreamscience Flash or something
If you PM Jared on the Focus forum he will confirm it, username is Dreamscience Flash or something
#28
Sorry to hear you finally had to part with it mate - your Scoob was a beaut.
Still, the ST500 is a nice motor too - we had one along on the fuel protest Saturday just gone, was impressed at the pick up following in my WRX - it's not a slouch by any means and his was black with twin silver stripes - sounds tacky but actually looks nice; red interior wasn't really my cup of tea but the interior's still miles ahead of what I used to associate with Fords, Vauxhalls and the like...
and has more gadgetry than you can shake a stick at lol.
Hope you enjoy it.
Still, the ST500 is a nice motor too - we had one along on the fuel protest Saturday just gone, was impressed at the pick up following in my WRX - it's not a slouch by any means and his was black with twin silver stripes - sounds tacky but actually looks nice; red interior wasn't really my cup of tea but the interior's still miles ahead of what I used to associate with Fords, Vauxhalls and the like...
and has more gadgetry than you can shake a stick at lol.
Hope you enjoy it.