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Credit crunch Porsche
Been offered a 1998 996 carrera 2 with 78000 mls in silver with sun roof black leather etc, in immaculate condition for £12000, seems very cheap any comments ? Thanks
Last edited by crofty; 16 December 2008 at 03:00 PM.
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Will offer him £10000
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That's a good price, but not suspiciously low for a private sale in today's market. Provided it's an honest car with no hidden secrets. Even though you know the guy, does he know the car's history over every mile of the last ten years? Almost certainly not. A lot can happen in that time, so make sure you get a throrough Porsche expert check (not an AA man ).
If you take it to an OPC for service, they will pull your pants down but at a good independent this car shouldn't cost any more than any other decent motor in regular servicing. But you must expect to replace old and worn out stuff on these cars and that can be costly although again a good independent will source non-OEM parts for a fraction of the Porsche cost.
Check out this thread. Some good advice and useful links
https://www.scoobynet.com/other-marq...ing-costs.html
Richard.
If you take it to an OPC for service, they will pull your pants down but at a good independent this car shouldn't cost any more than any other decent motor in regular servicing. But you must expect to replace old and worn out stuff on these cars and that can be costly although again a good independent will source non-OEM parts for a fraction of the Porsche cost.
Check out this thread. Some good advice and useful links
https://www.scoobynet.com/other-marq...ing-costs.html
Richard.
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That's a good price, but not suspiciously low for a private sale in today's market. Provided it's an honest car with no hidden secrets. Even though you know the guy, does he know the car's history over every mile of the last ten years? Almost certainly not. A lot can happen in that time, so make sure you get a throrough Porsche expert check (not an AA man ).
If you take it to an OPC for service, they will pull your pants down but at a good independent this car shouldn't cost any more than any other decent motor in regular servicing. But you must expect to replace old and worn out stuff on these cars and that can be costly although again a good independent will source non-OEM parts for a fraction of the Porsche cost.
Check out this thread. Some good advice and useful links
https://www.scoobynet.com/other-marq...ing-costs.html
Richard.
If you take it to an OPC for service, they will pull your pants down but at a good independent this car shouldn't cost any more than any other decent motor in regular servicing. But you must expect to replace old and worn out stuff on these cars and that can be costly although again a good independent will source non-OEM parts for a fraction of the Porsche cost.
Check out this thread. Some good advice and useful links
https://www.scoobynet.com/other-marq...ing-costs.html
Richard.
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Ok, been looking at 911's for over a year now but are these 10 year old Cerrera 2's any good?
I've promised myself a 997 Turbo or Lamborghini Gallardo (60k ) in 2010. But these are so cheap it seems daft not to consider. I know its not in the same league as the Turbo but are they still a supercar? or more of a sportscar?
I've promised myself a 997 Turbo or Lamborghini Gallardo (60k ) in 2010. But these are so cheap it seems daft not to consider. I know its not in the same league as the Turbo but are they still a supercar? or more of a sportscar?
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Ok, been looking at 911's for over a year now but are these 10 year old Cerrera 2's any good?
I've promised myself a 997 Turbo or Lamborghini Gallardo (60k ) in 2010. But these are so cheap it seems daft not to consider. I know its not in the same league as the Turbo but are they still a supercar? or more of a sportscar?
I've promised myself a 997 Turbo or Lamborghini Gallardo (60k ) in 2010. But these are so cheap it seems daft not to consider. I know its not in the same league as the Turbo but are they still a supercar? or more of a sportscar?
The turbo is a different beast. Completely different car in fact. 997 turbo, with its 4WD, has got to be the best every day supercar. There's some a bit quicker, for a price, but the main difference is being stared at all the time by people mumbling rich tw@t before they key it.
I almost bought a nine year-old 996. In fact I would have it now if it hadn't been sold. And I'd be quite happy thank you. But I like to run my cars for a long time and any car of that age/miles has got to have major wear and tear items replaced sooner rather than later. Servicing I could handle, but regular extra bills of one or two grand I can't, so the dream would inevitably have lost its shine after a couple of years.
Shame, but that's the conclusion I came to.
Richard.
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No. Not a supercar by any standards. Early 996s only have 300bhp which makes them pretty damn quick transport but they don't have that oh-my-god rush that you can get even from a modded Scoob. No NA Porsche, none IMO, does that. Have a go in one and you'll know they are not that special as soon as you red line it out of the first roundabout. You have to want a Porsche first and last, rather than an out and out performance car, to really enjoy.
The turbo is a different beast. Completely different car in fact. 997 turbo, with its 4WD, has got to be the best every day supercar. There's some a bit quicker, for a price, but the main difference is being stared at all the time by people mumbling rich tw@t before they key it.
I almost bought a nine year-old 996. In fact I would have it now if it hadn't been sold. And I'd be quite happy thank you. But I like to run my cars for a long time and any car of that age/miles has got to have major wear and tear items replaced sooner rather than later. Servicing I could handle, but regular extra bills of one or two grand I can't, so the dream would inevitably have lost its shine after a couple of years.
Shame, but that's the conclusion I came to.
Richard.
The turbo is a different beast. Completely different car in fact. 997 turbo, with its 4WD, has got to be the best every day supercar. There's some a bit quicker, for a price, but the main difference is being stared at all the time by people mumbling rich tw@t before they key it.
I almost bought a nine year-old 996. In fact I would have it now if it hadn't been sold. And I'd be quite happy thank you. But I like to run my cars for a long time and any car of that age/miles has got to have major wear and tear items replaced sooner rather than later. Servicing I could handle, but regular extra bills of one or two grand I can't, so the dream would inevitably have lost its shine after a couple of years.
Shame, but that's the conclusion I came to.
Richard.
having owned a 993 Carrera (fairly basic in the 911 scheme of things) and an STI V in various states of tune, you are right, the 993 did not excite me in the same way.
However, on some fairly basic tests, such as quarter and standing mile tests, where I expected the Pork to be much slower, because it felt much slower, it easily matched the Sti V for pace and acceleration. Maybe 0-60 might have been a tad slower, but the quarter times were very similar. And that with two wheel drive.
The 'problem' was that the Pork is turbine like in the linearity of delivery and suddenly you are going so much faster than you realised.
Also a more recent stint in a 996 GT3 MkII was electrifying. It made my 350bhp Spec C feel wheezy. The 996 was taut, fabulously quick, and a stunning drive to boot.
Spooky
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Said car !
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Had a 964 C4 years ago, and hated at the time having come from various jap stuff, it didn't feel quick, felt clunky, and didn't excite to drive.
However 5+ years on, I would now have another one in a blink over a scoob. And would love a 996. Boxter S's and 996's are now great value for money.
Maybe its me, but if I had say a STI8 or the above porker parked side by side, I wouldn't ****** the keys for the porker everytime.
No its never going to set your world on fire in the performance stakes, but lets be honest how often do you/we really get to exploit our cars to there full potential. 9/10 we/I'm driving normally, and I would much sooner do that behind the wheels of a 996.
If your a total speed junky then the scoob is for you, if you perhaps are advancing in years like mayself and want to own a driving icon and feel a bit special when your driving then the porker every time.
I was thinking about a M3 E46 cab in the new year, but have to say a 996 is now looking like a real contender.
However 5+ years on, I would now have another one in a blink over a scoob. And would love a 996. Boxter S's and 996's are now great value for money.
Maybe its me, but if I had say a STI8 or the above porker parked side by side, I wouldn't ****** the keys for the porker everytime.
No its never going to set your world on fire in the performance stakes, but lets be honest how often do you/we really get to exploit our cars to there full potential. 9/10 we/I'm driving normally, and I would much sooner do that behind the wheels of a 996.
If your a total speed junky then the scoob is for you, if you perhaps are advancing in years like mayself and want to own a driving icon and feel a bit special when your driving then the porker every time.
I was thinking about a M3 E46 cab in the new year, but have to say a 996 is now looking like a real contender.
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Does look nice crofty, but then they always do. It's a Porsche. A 911. An icon With my rose tinted specs on, that ticks a lot of boxes for me.
If that's what you want, and this car has no hidden horrors, it's a good price. Will the owner let you drive it to a Porsche specialist for a check up? A few hundred quid very well spent IMO. If that's okay, then just be aware of what inevitably lies ahead in service/maintenance and you should be very happy.
Things to check easily are tyres and brakes - that's £2k if they need replacing soon. If it's not had a new clutch, that will be another £600-£800 depending on the labour rate. A few bits like this an it's not such a bargain after all.
Good luck,
Richard.
If that's what you want, and this car has no hidden horrors, it's a good price. Will the owner let you drive it to a Porsche specialist for a check up? A few hundred quid very well spent IMO. If that's okay, then just be aware of what inevitably lies ahead in service/maintenance and you should be very happy.
Things to check easily are tyres and brakes - that's £2k if they need replacing soon. If it's not had a new clutch, that will be another £600-£800 depending on the labour rate. A few bits like this an it's not such a bargain after all.
Good luck,
Richard.
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