335d SE - should I buy one?
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335d SE - should I buy one?
Hi, I am thinking of buying a 335d SE on a 2009 plate. It looks nice, has leather and heated seats but not much else in the way of extras. It's only done 23k miles and is £18k.
I can't decide whether to get it or get an M-Sport model. The same reg is quite a bit more money. I currently have a 123d also on an SE spec but it had loads of extras. I did kind of regret not buying an M-Sport at the time but they were at least £3k extra with the same spec. I had a 325d a few years ago and the M-Sport suspension was really hard. So I am totally confused?
I have seen some SE models with different alloys (my neighbor) and they look really nice. I want to keep this car for at least 4 years to keep th wife happy so I need to get it right.
I can prob get a 325 M-Sport that's has less power but looks nicer, or get the rocket that is the 335? help?!
I can't decide whether to get it or get an M-Sport model. The same reg is quite a bit more money. I currently have a 123d also on an SE spec but it had loads of extras. I did kind of regret not buying an M-Sport at the time but they were at least £3k extra with the same spec. I had a 325d a few years ago and the M-Sport suspension was really hard. So I am totally confused?
I have seen some SE models with different alloys (my neighbor) and they look really nice. I want to keep this car for at least 4 years to keep th wife happy so I need to get it right.
I can prob get a 325 M-Sport that's has less power but looks nicer, or get the rocket that is the 335? help?!
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If it's got the option 19" wheels and sports seats then it'll look almost as good as an M-Sport model, but otherwise I'd hang on for an M-Sport coupe as they look fantastic. Sounds like a good price for a 2009 model with that mileage tho, SE or not!
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I'd have one like a shot, especially an M-Sport Touring. AlanC who used to post on here swapped his Type20 for one and never looked back. Sure, it's not as taught and composed in the twisties, but un-mapped he outpaced StickyStuff's 400bhp STi on the Autobahn, and after the map pushing 350/500 it was phenomenal. Over 2000 miles to Stelvio and back with the WYIOC it still managed 45mpg too, and in the car park at work he doesn't look like a yobbo any more.
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The problem I see with these cars is that they may have more power than they can use.
My 5 series is like that and I wonder if that applies to the 3 series as well, though of course my 5 series is bigger and heavier.
There is no point getting my 535d remapped because it's not a lack of power stopping me drive faster it's everything else. The brakes aren't good enough, the steering a little inert, suspension sometimes a little soft, run flat tyres composure over certain surfaces poor.
This is why M, AMG and RS cars are a lot more than just a family saloon with lots of power.
I'm not sure of how many of these issues I've mentioned affect the three series but if they do I really can't see the point in remapping these cars.
My 5 series is like that and I wonder if that applies to the 3 series as well, though of course my 5 series is bigger and heavier.
There is no point getting my 535d remapped because it's not a lack of power stopping me drive faster it's everything else. The brakes aren't good enough, the steering a little inert, suspension sometimes a little soft, run flat tyres composure over certain surfaces poor.
This is why M, AMG and RS cars are a lot more than just a family saloon with lots of power.
I'm not sure of how many of these issues I've mentioned affect the three series but if they do I really can't see the point in remapping these cars.
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Post 1.... Your after advice on a BMW and own one at present.....still with me, not bored yet?
My reply.....join a BMW forum and ask there, would of been different if you was after Subaru advice
Post 2.....you get the **** on with my reply
My reply......big deal join a BMW site
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The problem I see with these cars is that they may have more power than they can use.
My 5 series is like that and I wonder if that applies to the 3 series as well, though of course my 5 series is bigger and heavier.
There is no point getting my 535d remapped because it's not a lack of power stopping me drive faster it's everything else. The brakes aren't good enough, the steering a little inert, suspension sometimes a little soft, run flat tyres composure over certain surfaces poor.
This is why M, AMG and RS cars are a lot more than just a family saloon with lots of power.
I'm not sure of how many of these issues I've mentioned affect the three series but if they do I really can't see the point in remapping these cars.
My 5 series is like that and I wonder if that applies to the 3 series as well, though of course my 5 series is bigger and heavier.
There is no point getting my 535d remapped because it's not a lack of power stopping me drive faster it's everything else. The brakes aren't good enough, the steering a little inert, suspension sometimes a little soft, run flat tyres composure over certain surfaces poor.
This is why M, AMG and RS cars are a lot more than just a family saloon with lots of power.
I'm not sure of how many of these issues I've mentioned affect the three series but if they do I really can't see the point in remapping these cars.
My friend has a 2009 335d remapped and its power figures were slightly higher and it feels quicker when you drive it...the only issue is the 335d is a 4 seater..
If i were to buy a non sport version, not sure i would but it would need a suspension upgrade for hard driving..
ps: you will need some decent tyres..with a high side wall rating - this helps when going round the twists ;-)
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Well, i love my remapped 535d. 750 nm of torque, 350bhp..it goes like the clappers and stops in a heart beat.. Been round the ring..awsome..
My friend has a 2009 335d remapped and its power figures were slightly higher and it feels quicker when you drive it...the only issue is the 335d is a 4 seater..
If i were to buy a non sport version, not sure i would but it would need a suspension upgrade for hard driving..
ps: you will need some decent tyres..with a high side wall rating - this helps when going round the twists ;-)
My friend has a 2009 335d remapped and its power figures were slightly higher and it feels quicker when you drive it...the only issue is the 335d is a 4 seater..
If i were to buy a non sport version, not sure i would but it would need a suspension upgrade for hard driving..
ps: you will need some decent tyres..with a high side wall rating - this helps when going round the twists ;-)
Horses for courses then I suppose
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Isn't this meant to be anything "Non Scooby Related" Which means my sat nav was working after all.
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I can see where Ding is coming from. I have a 335i msport that's currently for sale btw. Everyone bangs on about me getting it remapped. If I was keepin it and wanted to mod the first thing I'd do is fit a LSD and change to non runflats rather than a ramap.
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I've said that about Scoobs for years too, hence why all the mods on mine were to the chassis and suspension. Quite a few big power guys were shocked when I disappeared into the distance on challenging roads running just PPP 265bhp. My car was rock solid stable at insane speeds, whereas they were always fighting to control the hurricane under the bonnet, terrified what might happen over the next crest. I just pressed on regardless, confident in its abilities. If I ever had a Scoob again it would be similar, maybe a Type 20. However, I'd have a 335D before that given the choice. My dream set-up would be towing my SDR V-Storm WR3 with my 335D Touring to Cadwell every weekend.
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Ok let's start again........... Because I'm bored
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Post 1.... Your after advice on a BMW and own one at present.....still with me, not bored yet?
My reply.....join a BMW forum and ask there, would of been different if you was after Subaru advice
Post 2.....you get the **** on with my reply
My reply......big deal join a BMW site
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Post 1.... Your after advice on a BMW and own one at present.....still with me, not bored yet?
My reply.....join a BMW forum and ask there, would of been different if you was after Subaru advice
Post 2.....you get the **** on with my reply
My reply......big deal join a BMW site
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I don't think you two understand, the forum was for anything "NON Scooby" related. No unless I am mistaken I asked about something that wasn't related to a Scooby. If you don't like where it's posted then you should set the forum out better and make it crystal clear where to post "NON Scooby" related questions.
Anyway, I digress, best of luck with your search - there are plenty of BMW owners in here
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This is so dumb, your trying to split hairs here when it makes no difference. I never disputed the "Other Marques" section, I simply pointed out that I did not post in the wrong forum. I got plenty of replies anyway so what difference does it make. If people are not supposed to post non related Scooby material in the non Scooby related section then make it clear!
I bought a car anyway so this is all just background noise now. I joined the BMW forum and they have a section for "3 series" so there is no ambiguity over where people post.
I bought a car anyway so this is all just background noise now. I joined the BMW forum and they have a section for "3 series" so there is no ambiguity over where people post.
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This is so dumb, your trying to split hairs here when it makes no difference. I never disputed the "Other Marques" section, I simply pointed out that I did not post in the wrong forum. I got plenty of replies anyway so what difference does it make. If people are not supposed to post non related Scooby material in the non Scooby related section then make it clear!
I bought a car anyway so this is all just background noise now. I joined the BMW forum and they have a section for "3 series" so there is no ambiguity over where people post.
I bought a car anyway so this is all just background noise now. I joined the BMW forum and they have a section for "3 series" so there is no ambiguity over where people post.
So between your two last posts ie between 2100hrs and midnight you've bought a car?
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Get **** all with my SE version in the way of extras
Parking sensors which I always think are for the truly ungifted and climate
M sport stufff is nothing in the way of 'power' just adds prettiness...wheels,seats etc.Seats are way nicer than basic though
Parking sensors which I always think are for the truly ungifted and climate
M sport stufff is nothing in the way of 'power' just adds prettiness...wheels,seats etc.Seats are way nicer than basic though
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TBH, you could merge ALL the bloody forums on SNet into one and it wouldn't be as busy as it used to be. Who cares if it's in the wrong place, especially as in OM it would have probably gone unnoticed.
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I've said that about Scoobs for years too, hence why all the mods on mine were to the chassis and suspension. Quite a few big power guys were shocked when I disappeared into the distance on challenging roads running just PPP 265bhp. My car was rock solid stable at insane speeds, whereas they were always fighting to control the hurricane under the bonnet, terrified what might happen over the next crest. I just pressed on regardless, confident in its abilities. If I ever had a Scoob again it would be similar, maybe a Type 20. However, I'd have a 335D before that given the choice. My dream set-up would be towing my SDR V-Storm WR3 with my 335D Touring to Cadwell every weekend.
I love cadwell, i used to muller much bigger bikes on my little VFR NC30 that was fettled by RMD, not all about power, agility and delivery go along way.
Power is nothing without control.
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This is so dumb, your trying to split hairs here when it makes no difference. I never disputed the "Other Marques" section, I simply pointed out that I did not post in the wrong forum. I got plenty of replies anyway so what difference does it make. If people are not supposed to post non related Scooby material in the non Scooby related section then make it clear!
I bought a car anyway so this is all just background noise now. I joined the BMW forum and they have a section for "3 series" so there is no ambiguity over where people post.
I bought a car anyway so this is all just background noise now. I joined the BMW forum and they have a section for "3 series" so there is no ambiguity over where people post.
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This is so dumb, your trying to split hairs here when it makes no difference. I never disputed the "Other Marques" section, I simply pointed out that I did not post in the wrong forum. I got plenty of replies anyway so what difference does it make. If people are not supposed to post non related Scooby material in the non Scooby related section then make it clear!
I bought a car anyway so this is all just background noise now. I joined the BMW forum and they have a section for "3 series" so there is no ambiguity over where people post.
I bought a car anyway so this is all just background noise now. I joined the BMW forum and they have a section for "3 series" so there is no ambiguity over where people post.
guess what a BMW is - oh yes a Non Subaru Vehicle as the listing shows.
Don't mean to be off, but jog on noob.
(BMW owner too - and I know where to post about it )
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My SE has loads Well specced by the original owner and its an E92 so came with a few nice bits over the saloon and touring anyway
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Also to the other noob trying to be smart, I didn't say I bought the car between any specific time, that was just the time I posted my reply. BMW dealers take calls upto 10pm so I can agree in principle to buy the car up to that point.
Also I decided not to buy another SE as it feels cheap. I always thought it gave off the image that I couldn't really afford the M-Sport even though I can. So to that end I binned the '09 and went for a nearly new '60 plate with more spec than you can shake a big stick at.
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Another jobsworth with nothing better to do. I can post in either section since they are technically both for "non Subaru" vehicles. If its so wrong to post about it in here, and you are a BMW driver like you claim to be then why are you here!! And why bother replying with nothing that is constructive. Looks like your the noob to me fella.
Also to the other noob trying to be smart, I didn't say I bought the car between any specific time, that was just the time I posted my reply. BMW dealers take calls upto 10pm so I can agree in principle to buy the car up to that point.
Also I decided not to buy another SE as it feels cheap. I always thought it gave off the image that I couldn't really afford the M-Sport even though I can. So to that end I binned the '09 and went for a nearly new '60 plate with more spec than you can shake a big stick at.
Also to the other noob trying to be smart, I didn't say I bought the car between any specific time, that was just the time I posted my reply. BMW dealers take calls upto 10pm so I can agree in principle to buy the car up to that point.
Also I decided not to buy another SE as it feels cheap. I always thought it gave off the image that I couldn't really afford the M-Sport even though I can. So to that end I binned the '09 and went for a nearly new '60 plate with more spec than you can shake a big stick at.
yes go to to a bmw forum if you only want to talk about BMW's...
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Another jobsworth with nothing better to do. I can post in either section since they are technically both for "non Subaru" vehicles. If its so wrong to post about it in here, and you are a BMW driver like you claim to be then why are you here!! And why bother replying with nothing that is constructive. Looks like your the noob to me fella.
Also to the other noob trying to be smart, I didn't say I bought the car between any specific time, that was just the time I posted my reply. BMW dealers take calls upto 10pm so I can agree in principle to buy the car up to that point.
Also I decided not to buy another SE as it feels cheap. I always thought it gave off the image that I couldn't really afford the M-Sport even though I can. So to that end I binned the '09 and went for a nearly new '60 plate with more spec than you can shake a big stick at.
Also to the other noob trying to be smart, I didn't say I bought the car between any specific time, that was just the time I posted my reply. BMW dealers take calls upto 10pm so I can agree in principle to buy the car up to that point.
Also I decided not to buy another SE as it feels cheap. I always thought it gave off the image that I couldn't really afford the M-Sport even though I can. So to that end I binned the '09 and went for a nearly new '60 plate with more spec than you can shake a big stick at.
By the way hello Alan