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Fast Estate Car
I've sorely missed my Scooby since it went and I've always promised myself another fast car once we were in a better position financially after renovating our house. Initially I didn't really think about practicality and therefore another Scoob/EVO/etc. would be fine however now with the kids and all their paraphenailia most of my leisure driving is in the estate car so I'm thinking change that for something fast for the weekends and get something small / economical / cheap for the commute.
So I've a max of £15k to spend, maybe a bit more for the right car, would prefer it to be petrol and manual (but it doesn't necessarily rule out diesels and (semi)autos). Needs to be 300bhp+ and a 0-60 of less than 6s
The shortlist:
1. BMW M5 Tourer - if money was not an object this is the ultimate but a good one seems to be £25k+
2. Audi RS4 Avant (4.2L V8) - as above and too many stories of huge bills.
3. Audi RS6 Avant - Affordable to purchase but astronomical running costs.
4. Audi S6 (5L V10) - rare as rocking horse poo and probably too expensive.
5. Audi S4 (4.2L V8) - current favourite, over 300bhp and less to go wrong than an RS4/6.
Other options
BMW 3 Series Touring - preferable a 335i with a manual box - v.rare
BMW 5 Series Touring
VW Passat R36 - Different, rare, and I quite like it.
Saabs? - Just Vauxhalls with turbo engines?
Volvos? - Presumably with an R after the model number.
Your thoughts are appreciated
So I've a max of £15k to spend, maybe a bit more for the right car, would prefer it to be petrol and manual (but it doesn't necessarily rule out diesels and (semi)autos). Needs to be 300bhp+ and a 0-60 of less than 6s
The shortlist:
1. BMW M5 Tourer - if money was not an object this is the ultimate but a good one seems to be £25k+
2. Audi RS4 Avant (4.2L V8) - as above and too many stories of huge bills.
3. Audi RS6 Avant - Affordable to purchase but astronomical running costs.
4. Audi S6 (5L V10) - rare as rocking horse poo and probably too expensive.
5. Audi S4 (4.2L V8) - current favourite, over 300bhp and less to go wrong than an RS4/6.
Other options
BMW 3 Series Touring - preferable a 335i with a manual box - v.rare
BMW 5 Series Touring
VW Passat R36 - Different, rare, and I quite like it.
Saabs? - Just Vauxhalls with turbo engines?
Volvos? - Presumably with an R after the model number.
Your thoughts are appreciated
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If you can't stomach the running costs of any of the RS Audi's or big engine BMW why not get a 2.0TFSI A4 and chuck some mods at it? With the budget you'll easily get a nice B7 A4 Quattro SLine and they its not so hard or that expensive to get them over 300HP?
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Okay so 60 might be 7s and it only has 230bhp, but a little tweak to the ECU and it already has over 300lb/ft of torque
Okay so 60 might be 7s and it only has 230bhp, but a little tweak to the ECU and it already has over 300lb/ft of torque
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That said wouldn't completely rule it out, e.g. an ECU tweak to a TDi
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Okay so 60 might be 7s and it only has 230bhp, but a little tweak to the ECU and it already has over 300lb/ft of torque
Okay so 60 might be 7s and it only has 230bhp, but a little tweak to the ECU and it already has over 300lb/ft of torque
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Have you considered the B5 RS4?
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Some say that even the quattro petrol 2.0 turbo will return 40 on a run.
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I absolutely love them and if budget would allow I'd go for it but it's at least £20k for B6/7 RS4 and relistically £25k for a decent low miler. And then I hear abour the DRC system leaking and needing complete replacement / overhaul, £1k for a set of front discs / pads, £250 per corner on tyres, it's just too much unfortuantely. Need more money
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only just got it but the power feels endless and the torque is amazing.
i doubt an impreza would get anywhere near in a straightline.
slightly nose heavy in the twisties where an impreza would probably be equal.
interior is miles ahead but its 3 times the pricr nearly.
still wouldnt part with my impreza though.
i doubt an impreza would get anywhere near in a straightline.
slightly nose heavy in the twisties where an impreza would probably be equal.
interior is miles ahead but its 3 times the pricr nearly.
still wouldnt part with my impreza though.
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only just got it but the power feels endless and the torque is amazing.
i doubt an impreza would get anywhere near in a straightline.
slightly nose heavy in the twisties where an impreza would probably be equal.
interior is miles ahead but its 3 times the pricr nearly.
still wouldnt part with my impreza though.
i doubt an impreza would get anywhere near in a straightline.
slightly nose heavy in the twisties where an impreza would probably be equal.
interior is miles ahead but its 3 times the pricr nearly.
still wouldnt part with my impreza though.
Now back onto the thread
RS4 estate
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Slight curve ball, and not an estate as such but still good sized boot and rear seats drop.
But I've just replaced my wifes car with a BMW X3 3.0sd M sport. Basically a X3 will loads of extras, colour coded bumpers and M sport bits, but best of all running the Twin turbo 35d lump. best part of 300bhp/400ft/lb standard and stage 1 maps to 330bhp/500+ft/lb. Handling is very good all things considered and packs a serious punch, and enough to keep up and see off most things. Yet running costs are good, and has every creature comfort you could want and unlike any of the other 35d range, the X3 has AWD which we couldn't do without.
It may not for you, but it ticked pretty much every box for our needs.
But I've just replaced my wifes car with a BMW X3 3.0sd M sport. Basically a X3 will loads of extras, colour coded bumpers and M sport bits, but best of all running the Twin turbo 35d lump. best part of 300bhp/400ft/lb standard and stage 1 maps to 330bhp/500+ft/lb. Handling is very good all things considered and packs a serious punch, and enough to keep up and see off most things. Yet running costs are good, and has every creature comfort you could want and unlike any of the other 35d range, the X3 has AWD which we couldn't do without.
It may not for you, but it ticked pretty much every box for our needs.
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Go on then RS4 owners how much do they cost you to run i.e. servicing, consumables (brakes, tyres, clutch, etc.), I don't mind fuel costs it's the rest of it that scares me.
Heart says yes, head says no
Heart says yes, head says no
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I considered this a while ago and had a similar list. One that was on my possibles list not here was the 300c SRT. More to do with straight line grunt than handling though. But cheap and understressed.
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E55 AMG estate. Looks standardish apart from the wheels
Or go for a C Class AMG for a cheaper option
http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/4017305.htm
Or go for a C Class AMG for a cheaper option
http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/4017305.htm
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Tubby you jammy get, I like it. Look into the common issues, there is a few. But nice.
Another thought for op.
Forester sti new model
Or Mercedes c class c350 blue efficiency diesel, loads of power, faster than BMW 335i petrol worth a look.
And of course rs4 avant if you can afford running costs.
This is we're I narrowed it down to.
But no need for estate anymore as I have plans lol.
Good luck
Another thought for op.
Forester sti new model
Or Mercedes c class c350 blue efficiency diesel, loads of power, faster than BMW 335i petrol worth a look.
And of course rs4 avant if you can afford running costs.
This is we're I narrowed it down to.
But no need for estate anymore as I have plans lol.
Good luck
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E55 AMG estate. Looks standardish apart from the wheels
Or go for a C Class AMG for a cheaper option
http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/4017305.htm
Or go for a C Class AMG for a cheaper option
http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/4017305.htm