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Old 08 December 2012 | 09:04 PM
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Default 58.7 mpg on a 280 mile round trip.

Went to Manchester from Scarborough and back the other day and got 58.7 mpg. this is me trying to convince myself I was right selling the scoob and buying a dirty diesel.
Old 08 December 2012 | 09:08 PM
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edit. thought u meant u got that in a scooby at first lol
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My 13 year old Xantia regularly goes 800 miles from here to Limoges, so full it can rarely lift itself on the suspension, and returns full of plonk.
It never does less than 50mpg, despite some quite high speed running.
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I'm actually thinking of getting another scoob.
Old 09 December 2012 | 08:52 AM
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Diesel is the answer. My Mini Cooper Clubman turbo diesel does 45mpg on short shopping runs and over 60 mpg on a long run. It has remarkable acceleration for a 1600cc, feels more like a 3.5 litre engine.

It is almost undetectable as a diesel engine too. You can only just hear the difference when it is idling if you open a window.

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Old 09 December 2012 | 10:41 AM
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My vectra cdti is mapped to 211bhp and over 350lb torque. Averages 55mpg with all the comfort you need.
But still enjoy driving the scoobs on weekends lol
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That maybe correct les,but something i miss about owning a scoob,i just loved driving in it,it was a blast.
Old 09 December 2012 | 03:40 PM
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Oh I won't deny that,just like you I loved driving my Scoob as well. I got a lot of pleasure out of tweaking up the engine and the suspension too.

Trouble was,Mrs Leslie hated the hard suspension and she does not like being driven fast anyway.

At least peace rules now anyway!

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Originally Posted by Bubba po
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I've never managed to get anywhere near the mpg figures people claim for their diesels, which must mean they are all being driven like pussies.
I currently have a 1.9cdti Astravan (200 BHP with tuning box) for work and get 36mpg out of it, which is mostly A-road/ Motorway use, and this is near what I expected based on previous diesels I have driven.
With vans nearly all are diesel so choice is limited but as far as cars go there is no way I can envisage me ever having a diesel, as their performance and manner in which they deliver their power compared to a petrol equivalent is just plain dull and sleep-inducing.
And if I ever find myself changing my driving style to join the diesel owners game of mpg bragging rights then I'm going to shoot myself.
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Well my vectra has got te same engine as it van. Over 200 bhp too and trust me its boosting at every opportunity. And it's computer tells me the mpg spin know its correct. Maybe ur not looking after the engine. Mine has an oil change every 5k miles and a full service at 10k. Keeps it running sweet and reliable as I use it for work everyday and need it reliable. If the car doesn't work I don't earn lol
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I got 600+ miles to my 10 Gallon tank at the end of October driving into Wales, around, and back ............

This wasn't from some slow Diesel either - it was from a vehicle which delivers a neck-snapping 340Nm's of Torque ...... it could pull a battleship across the Atlantic!

Petrols are a tad old fashioned now .......
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Originally Posted by DYK
That maybe correct les,but something i miss about owning a scoob,i just loved driving in it,it was a blast.
Buy mine...buy mine...buy mine
Old 09 December 2012 | 08:09 PM
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Modern diseasels have their place, and I enjoy the massive torque (312 lb/ft and 180bhp) in mine whilst still getting 45mpg around town and nearer 60 on a run. However, I would happily chop both our cars in for something not made by VW as I'm sick of the woeful reliability and shoddy build. Currently fancying a Forester S-Turbo for the family barge and a Civic 2.2D for teaching driving Had my heart set on a BMW 335/535D Touring, but I doubt I'll have the cash for either anytime soon
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Originally Posted by ScoobySteve69
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What is it
Old 09 December 2012 | 11:31 PM
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I think we should rename this site to boringdieselsnet.com
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Originally Posted by J44CE
Well my vectra has got te same engine as it van. Over 200 bhp too and trust me its boosting at every opportunity. And it's computer tells me the mpg spin know its correct. Maybe ur not looking after the engine. Mine has an oil change every 5k miles and a full service at 10k. Keeps it running sweet and reliable as I use it for work everyday and need it reliable. If the car doesn't work I don't earn lol
If you have 211bhp and are working it hard as you say above there is absolutely zero chance of getting anywhere near 55mpg.

Either your trip computer is badly broken or you've gone wrong somewhere with the math.

I've had one for six months and the company I worked for had a fleet and none of them got the quoted 60+mpg as standard and these cars were meticulously looked after.

55mpg is possible at about 65mph on a very steady long run but the moment you give it some throttle you'll be in the 40's and one that has been heavily modified which you say yours has will reduce fuel economy significantly. Adding another 60bhp is not going to give you anywhere near as good fuel economy especially when worked hard as you state above.

I had a Golf TDI 170bhp as my last company car and could manage about 62-64 running at 75mph on the cruise control for long runs but realistically it was usually low 40's and if worked hard over a short distance in the 30's.

Diesel's only really do well when driven reasonably, full throttle all of the time is still a lot better than the average petrol car but not by half as much as most think when you've factored in the cost of the different fuels.

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Originally Posted by c_maguire
I've never managed to get anywhere near the mpg figures people claim for their diesels, which must mean they are all being driven like pussies.
I currently have a 1.9cdti Astravan (200 BHP with tuning box) for work and get 36mpg out of it, which is mostly A-road/ Motorway use, and this is near what I expected based on previous diesels I have driven.
With vans nearly all are diesel so choice is limited but as far as cars go there is no way I can envisage me ever having a diesel, as their performance and manner in which they deliver their power compared to a petrol equivalent is just plain dull and sleep-inducing.
And if I ever find myself changing my driving style to join the diesel owners game of mpg bragging rights then I'm going to shoot myself.
These figures sound completely realistic.

As I said in the above post, thrashing a diesel will result in it dropping massively below the manufacturers figures, just like a petrol engine generally does.

Still when driven how they are designed to be driven and doing enough miles they can offer a saving although the complexity of modern diesels is a little scary when out of warranty.
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Must admit diesels can do a pretty astonishing job. This particularly surprised me, a large Merc, London to Preston in under three hours on a week day morning and still 50mpg!


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Well I assure you it definately does. I do a lot of motorway miles so an average of around 50-55 is right. If I reset it and do street driving. Granted it drops but only to about 43. And as for fuel economy dropping when tuned in these diesels. In my experience if makes the economy much better when the car is set up right I've noticed mine a bit better on economy since the remap and definately not worse. And no I'm not daft. I know my car and what it does. Not saying its the best thing since sliced bread cos it ain't. The scoob puts a smile on my face everytime and next year I'm going for more power with it.
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My wrxd gets 480 to the tank 46mpg
Can squeeze 49mpg on a long boring drive

My old Skoda Octavia L&K 110 BHP averaged 55mph over 70k miles 5 years

On a good long boring motorway run could get 61mpg

But no smiles
Diesels are great remapped
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Originally Posted by lordharding
My old Skoda Octavia L&K 110 BHP averaged 55mph over 70k miles 5 years
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just wait till you get a bill for diesel particle filter, then you'll beg for mercy before being had over a barrel lol
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Originally Posted by corradoboy
Had my heart set on a BMW 335/535D Touring, but I doubt I'll have the cash for either anytime soon
Picked up my 535D M-Sport Touring at the weekend, really haven't had that much time to explore it yet but for overtaking it is phenominal. The combination of huge torque and a lightning fast auto means it just never stops accelerating. Just spot the gap, foot to the floor, short pause while it kicks down, then all hell breaks loose I'd say it's faster than my old classic with de-cat.
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Originally Posted by ScoobySteve69
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Believe me,I would if I could!

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Originally Posted by PhilWrx100
I think we should rename this site to boringdieselsnet.com
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Have you actually driven a turbocharged diesel?

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Originally Posted by Bubba po
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Change to a different thread then!

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Originally Posted by c_maguire
I've never managed to get anywhere near the mpg figures people claim for their diesels, which must mean they are all being driven like pussies.
I currently have a 1.9cdti Astravan (200 BHP with tuning box) for work and get 36mpg out of it, which is mostly A-road/ Motorway use, and this is near what I expected based on previous diesels I have driven.
With vans nearly all are diesel so choice is limited but as far as cars go there is no way I can envisage me ever having a diesel, as their performance and manner in which they deliver their power compared to a petrol equivalent is just plain dull and sleep-inducing.
And if I ever find myself changing my driving style to join the diesel owners game of mpg bragging rights then I'm going to shoot myself.
I agree that I have a soft throttle foot but neither do I drive my car as you say like a *****.

I use the acceleration,which is very good for a 1600cc car, when I need to and drive at the speed limits when I can.

I find it just as enjoyable to drive the car which does have excellent handling so you don't have to slow down much for the corners,if at all.

It is still a well set up engine which seems to be very efficient and the turbo is also very good with virtually undetectable throttle lag.

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Originally Posted by Leslie
Diesel is the answer.
feels more like a 3.5 litre engine.
Feels like it. But isn't.



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