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honeybadger 17 July 2011 01:10 PM

sounds good! think about going ALL forged, not only will you have extra peace of mind , but you can sell it easier that way, in future. Most people buying those cars now, look for all forged internals. are you in the uk? what was the octane level of that Vpower you fueled it with?

euan_F 17 July 2011 01:13 PM

yeah ive got about a week to decide before robs putting the pieces together again. Vpowers 99RON in the UK and the nearest garage with that is 22mile away real pain in the ass tbh

honeybadger 17 July 2011 02:22 PM

ye..that's far off mate. here we are forced to use octane boosters such as NF from australia. Happy motoring and enjoy your car when it's all done! :D

Littleted 17 July 2011 06:39 PM


Originally Posted by honeybadger (Post 10140401)
ye..that's far off mate. here we are forced to use octane boosters such as NF from australia. Happy motoring and enjoy your car when it's all done! :D

Hi m8, mine hasnt gone yet im 9k in on a 2011 sedan.

yes i always put in Vmax 99 ron and never boot it till the water gauge is warm, dont have oil temp.

I have put 1 tank of 97 BP in which i personally thought was better.

Ive spoken to Subaru UK and they run all there on 97 Ron

The current sticker on the fuel cap for mine says 98ron, but once u get the 320R remap it gets changed to 97Ron, I hazard a guess Cosworth new Map will be a good one.

joz8968 17 July 2011 06:58 PM

V-Power (not Vmax lol). ;)

honeybadger 17 July 2011 07:03 PM


Originally Posted by Littleted (Post 10140866)
Hi m8, mine hasnt gone yet im 9k in on a 2011 sedan.

yes i always put in Vmax 99 ron and never boot it till the water gauge is warm, dont have oil temp.

I have put 1 tank of 97 BP in which i personally thought was better.

Ive spoken to Subaru UK and they run all there on 97 Ron

The current sticker on the fuel cap for mine says 98ron, but once u get the 320R remap it gets changed to 97Ron, I hazard a guess Cosworth new Map will be a good one.

My remap is from Dimsport. Made good on the car except my car has this strange issue that after a few km on the highway the car becomes really strong and then, when i lift off the throttle during max acceleration in full boost, it has a driveline shunt. it jerks twice before decelerating smoothly as it should. nobody knows the cause of this, and my car is the only one doing it. go figure.
Is this 320R map from cosworth? Do you have 9000miles or km on now? Over here the 2011;s that have broken have the rubbish fuel to blame. i mean really the only boosted cars that can run well on that low octane is the german cars with direct injection. well it's mostly the german cars that have direct injection. that's the way to go! subaru will follow with that soon i think.
they should also really add an oil temp gauge i reckon.

honeybadger 17 July 2011 07:08 PM

p.s i saw BP sells a 102 Ron at the pump stations in Britain. Tell me about that. Is the availablity of that scarce, or is it just too expensive to use regularly?

Littleted 17 July 2011 07:29 PM

Pops sorry v power

Yes that bp is like rocking hoss poo

Littleted 17 July 2011 07:31 PM

The remaps done by Subaru uk but developed by cosworth

honeybadger 17 July 2011 07:53 PM


Originally Posted by Littleted (Post 10141026)
The remaps done by Subaru uk but developed by cosworth

did you see an power increase with the 320R?

MikeWood 17 July 2011 11:56 PM


Originally Posted by Littleted (Post 10141026)
The remaps done by Subaru uk but developed by cosworth

I'd quite like to get this corrected before it becomes an Internet Myth. Cosworth have NOT had any part in the 320R upgrade at all......

joz8968 18 July 2011 12:03 AM


Originally Posted by honeybadger (Post 10140949)
p.s i saw BP sells a 102 Ron at the pump stations in Britain. Tell me about that. Is the availablity of that scarce, or is it just too expensive to use regularly?

IIRC it was launched at £2.79 per litre!!! (R31.00 at today's exc. rate). That's pretty much bang on double the price of SUL in the UK now. Plus, that £2.79 was a few years back to boot. So it may have gone up a bit since - not sure.

Only a handful of BP garages sell it throughout the whole of the UK, I believe.

honeybadger 18 July 2011 05:05 AM


Originally Posted by joz8968 (Post 10141588)
IIRC it was launched at £2.79 per litre!!! (R31.00 at today's exc. rate). That's pretty much bang on double the price of SUL in the UK now. Plus, that £2.79 was a few years back to boot. So it may have gone up a bit since - not sure.

Only a handful of BP garages sell it throughout the whole of the UK, I believe.

thanks Joz:)

honeybadger 18 July 2011 05:06 AM


Originally Posted by MikeWood (Post 10141583)
I'd quite like to get this corrected before it becomes an Internet Myth. Cosworth have NOT had any part in the 320R upgrade at all......

here in SA Subaru sells the myth of a 'patch' being loaded onto all the later models, including my 2010 hatch.
big nonsense, saw my detonate like pop rocks on that dyno. using 95.

jura11 18 July 2011 05:18 AM

Here is good test between major used fuels(and BP 102) here on Subaru(in this i mean Shell V-Power and Tesco 99RON)

http://www.thorneymotorsport.co.uk/t...s_Update.shtml


Jura

Littleted 18 July 2011 06:56 AM


Originally Posted by MikeWood (Post 10141583)
I'd quite like to get this corrected before it becomes an Internet Myth. Cosworth have NOT had any part in the 320R upgrade at all......

I stand corrected then

Who did it Mike

I'm sure eve or auto express said this can't rem where I read it

StanS 18 July 2011 09:03 AM


Originally Posted by jura11 (Post 10141639)
Here is good test between major used fuels(and BP 102) here on Subaru(in this i mean Shell V-Power and Tesco 99RON)
http://www.thorneymotorsport.co.uk/t...s_Update.shtml
Jura

Any idea what date that was done ? Couldn't see any mention of test date :(

Always used Vpower as that is what it was mapped on, so reluctant to try Tesco99.

joz8968 18 July 2011 09:46 AM


Originally Posted by honeybadger (Post 10141637)
...saw my detonate like pop rocks on that dyno. using 95.

Ha ha. I like that analogy. :thumb:

urban 18 July 2011 10:06 AM


Originally Posted by Littleted (Post 10141654)
I stand corrected then

Who did it Mike

I'm sure eve or auto express said this can't rem where I read it

I thought that Pro-R were responsible for the 320R upgrade.

MikeWood 18 July 2011 10:25 AM

Hi Littleted

It was an internal program at Subaru UK, the work being done by the people that have delivered all the previous approved upgrades ;)

Mike

mickp 18 July 2011 12:05 PM

Mike good to have you on this thread.

You have PM

urban 18 July 2011 12:51 PM


Originally Posted by mickp (Post 10141884)
Mike good to have you on this thread.

:thumb:

Littleted 18 July 2011 03:36 PM


Originally Posted by MikeWood (Post 10141796)
Hi Littleted

It was an internal program at Subaru UK, the work being done by the people that have delivered all the previous approved upgrades ;)

Mike

Thanks Mike, i was actually at your gaff today you may have seen me floating about with Steve.

get him to throw some pictures up of his Black one, i think when people see some good ones of that beast itll change there view, Its lovely looking beast

elitek 18 July 2011 04:05 PM


Originally Posted by euan_F (Post 10140281)
My08 STi, knew it would happen was just a case of when, and typically just after warranty expired

hey ewan..was your sti modified or remapped at all.. mine went at 34k 3 weeks after the warranty ran out but i was pushing 363 bhp with a remap,filter and exhaust...

thats me been back on the road about a month now and driving like miss daisy..fun totally gone..

OllieS 31 July 2011 11:42 AM

Apologies if comes across silly but quick question...

If I were to buy a Hawkeye STI, around 06 plate, would I also be at risk for the aforementioned problems?

Regards

acstua 31 July 2011 12:11 PM

the short answer is yes i guess, the long answer maybe

ive got hawkeye with no issues so far, as have a fair few people here
you only ever hear the bad news and all that :)
i dont think the hawkeyes were as bad as the hatch which had a bad map as well as an engine liable to HG issues

im sure someone with alot more experience will come and say thats wrong in aminute mind :D

TonyBurns 31 July 2011 12:14 PM

All the 2.5 STI engines have the same issues, the MY06 2.5 STI also had some HG issues which were "corrected" on the MY07 cars, unless your talking about the MY06 JDM car which is 2ltr and doesnt have this problem as its a far better engine ;)

Tony:)

joz8968 31 July 2011 12:34 PM

The moral of the story is...

If you get a 2.5L Hawk or MY08>on car, then factor into your budget an immediate 'safety' remap by one of the reputable mappers on this site. This should be enough to prevent the issue from happening from that point on (unless of course, you've unwittingly inherited a car where engine damage has already 'begun'...)

To that end, I'd only ever consider a factory OEM 2.5 purchase where the original purchaser obviously knows his onions, and had just such a remap immediately after buying the car, from brand new. :thumb: Otherwise, as eluded to above, the 'risk' is too great IMO.

Littleted 31 July 2011 03:01 PM

Just buy it and NEVER EVER READ THIS SECTION EVER

or you will never ever buy one LOL

but that goes for any car forum

joz8968 31 July 2011 05:10 PM

lol Littleted.

Ignorance truly is bliss/sets one 'free'... What you have no knowledge of, you can't 'fret' over... ;)


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