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disgraceful

One of the most pertinent bits from the story:

"After this disaster how can the public possibly have confidence in the vast centralised databases needed for the compulsory ID card scheme" .....

Exactly ..... hopefully another nail in the coffin for ID cards!

Dave

Things get lost all the time, it's the precautions that are important, I want to know if it was encrypted, how it was encrypted and that the decryption keys weren't on a post it in the same envelope!!

It was password protected

But the password was probably on a post it note attached to the cd's

Rumours are that an anonymous source has already started making the ID cards, starting with all children under 16 and their parents ;)

Lest hope so.

I would not trust this govenment to pour water out of a wellie boot - with the instructions written on the sole!

Every week you just have to wonder what Labour are going to fcuk up next :mad:

Classic!!!

:D :D :D

Well, my blood is boiling and my lip is quivering more frequently than it ever did !

Now the departure of Mr Darling is imminent.

Truth be known, I have wanted to get rid of this co*k-knocker for some time on the basis of his revolting eye-brows being a two tone colour. Now I have a proper excuse.

He could be working in a Burger King near you, very soon!

I once tried to 'frame' him with Anne Widdecombe, I had the cameras set up ready for him to nail the bloated seal that she is. The next day I was rubbing my hands with glee, thinking i've got the under-achieving parasite, but, on closer inspection, I notice that it's Lord Heseltine that she's riding like a bucking bronco. Dirty!


Regards
Gordon Brown PM
EX CoE

Unbelievable :angry:

Why didn't someone drive the discs personally!!

W@nkers - who else trusts TNT ...!?

I would have expected to have seen Lewis on this thread excusing his beloved party once more, maybe he's finally admited defeat. I would have thought in this day and age they could have been transfered electronically from one govt server to another, I'm no techie but if I can upload a few pics to Photobucket how difficult can it be !!

couldn't they just ftp them down to london??

ziptie the disks to a pigeons leg would have been a better bet LOL

Because you'd be head of the queue of people complaining about civil servants acting as couriers at your expense?


It has long been perfectly legal (and common) to send stuff on the lowest level of security (which these would be) through ordinary post. It's actually more secure than courier, as couriers are much more often the target of robberies. All that has happened to these is that Royal Fail has managed to lose them. Which couriers also sometimes do.


And WTF has this got to do with Labour anyway? This was a civil service person screw-up, and would have happened no matter who was in power.


M

What's the situation regarding breaching the data protection act? Legal action anyone? If it was a private company that did it they would be hung up by their balls. Why should HMRC get away with it?

Err, it was sent via Internal Mail using a courier, not RM!

Excellent point :thumb:
No doubt it will be swept under the carpet

I don't think Royal Mail were involved. It was the government that got rid of many civil servants which may well have included staff who realised that you don't send this type of info the way they did. It was probably left to an OA (Office Assistant) to send the stuff off who simply didn't have a clue. dl

In the BBC report last night, they said the request for the data was handled by a junior employee who copied the data to two CD's. WTF are junior employees doing with access to all that data in the first place. Sounds like their IT dept need a sound kick up the backside too.

be sensible - you think junior employees of any organisation should not be allowed to see customers names and address and bank details? What do you think happens to your tax return when you send it in? they all handle it with their eyes closed until it reaches Gordon himself to work out your bill?

It doesn't matter how it happend, or who was involved. The important thing is to realise that the Government, any government, cannot be trusted to keep your details, as would be required for an ID card, away from those that might take advantage of any leaks in the system. In other words, this single event renders the whole philosophy behind ID cards completely redundant, and they should annouce plans to scrap the scheme immediatly.

So the data's been out there for over a month! :eek: Do they really think they'll get it back? :cuckoo:

Nice to see that they've set up a helpline... on a premium rate 0845 number... :mad:

Agree, but you've got more chance of them flying to the moon with wings made out of paper.

0845 numbers are local rate.

It's ok, they've apologised unreservedly so it's all fine. :lol1:

After all, it's only 25 million people's personal details.




PM's Questions should be amusing at midday. ;)

Of course not, but given the data being handled, access to resources such as CD/DVD-burners shouldn't be given to junior staff. They might need to look at the data to do their job but the ability to extract data from such a large system onto removable media should be restricted.

I wonder if policies are in place to block use of USB memory sticks and the like?

It has been mentioned often enough that an ID card system would not be safe from the hackers for much more that a week, but now we find that this sorry apology for a government is actually handing out the informatiom to the crooks on a plate! I notice that despite the top civil servant resigning, that the Chancellor is staying firmly put as usual.

The levels of incompetence and sheer apathy being demonstrated is beyond belief. It is worth remembering that Flash was the former Chancellor and presided over the combination of the IRS and Customs.

The great control freak who does not trust any of his ministers and does not even deign to talk to the the junior ones is losing control and respect from his cabinet who after all are only a bunch of bottom kissers anyway interested only in their own advancement at all costs. Sod the electorate, we are of no interest to them!

Les :(

You're still paying if you call it though, should be freephone. :mad:

Psst, anyone want to buy some CD's? ;)

Find Two CD-R's - Have data on them - some sort of database on eBay within, Other, Everything Else (end time 21-Nov-07 12:21:09 GMT)

Not me selling btw. :lol1: