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zip106 05 April 2012 08:32 PM


Originally Posted by oldsplice (Post 10565192)
Oh, you ANIMAL!!! :o :o :o


:lol1:

RRRRAARRRRRRRRrrrrr...... :D

jonc 05 April 2012 09:55 PM


Originally Posted by Ant (Post 10565056)
I'm clean , must suck to be a windows user

On the contrary, this vulnerability was patched 6 weeks ago for Windows without 600,000 infections! Apple...horse....gate...bolt....:lol1:

JackClark 05 April 2012 11:15 PM

Take this opportunity to disable Java. Just type Java into Spotlight and you'll find the preferences app. 99.9% of users won't miss it. You're reading an example of how third party software is dragging your machine into the Windows Cess Pit.

If you're feeling brave search for Click to Flash or Click to Plugin, you then have to click on Flash content to play it but again you're another step away from the hellish environment Windows users endure.

IWatkins 05 April 2012 11:58 PM

Jack,

You are so full of ****e it isn't funny anymore.

Flash a huge security risk? Java a huge security risk? What next, users using the Internet a security risk?

Grow up.

No doubt this issue will cause even more publicity, and the share price will go up again. Not that I'm bothered, I got in at 87p a share way back :)

JackClark 06 April 2012 12:16 AM

One more before I grow up.

The answer to all your questions is Yes. The first two you can easily do without.

jonc 06 April 2012 09:35 AM

http://www.t3.com/news/600000-apple-...y-trojan-virus

The infection continues to rise which is no surprise since the majority of Apple users have the misguided view that Macs are immune to malware and continue use their Macs unpatched as if nothing has happened. I stated a while back in previous debates that as Macs became more popular that eventually they would be subject to this kind of wide scale infection but was dismissed by the fanboys at the time. Also Apple have been slow to address this vulnerability since this the Flashback trojan was first spotted on OSX back in 24 February!!

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/security/n...the-wild/10411

Slate Windows all you want but at least Microsoft addresses these issues in days, not months!

JackClark 06 April 2012 10:14 AM

Round of applause for stating the obvious.

jonc 06 April 2012 10:38 AM

Booby prize for you for stating at that time that this would never happen. :rolleyes:

madmerlin 06 April 2012 10:46 AM


Originally Posted by Miniman (Post 10564756)
Lies - we all know they don't get virii.

:lol:

Galifrey 06 April 2012 12:53 PM

Macs have always had little problems with Virii and the like due to the fact that it wasn't worth writing a virus for so few users, diminishing returns and all that. Now there are many more Macs in circulation with little to no virus protection they have become a viable target, and that will only get worse. Apple users will continue to believe the hype that OSX is immune form these problems until it gets much worse.

Microsoft has had a free virus program that is extremely good for free for many moons, and this has been the best option for windows, directly competing with the inbuilt protection of OSX, there is no need to install such resource hogging rubbish like Norton and the anymore, so all the myths that Windows PC's are slower than MACs due to virus protection are long gone.

Sure the warning for this trojan has come from an Anti Virus company, but contrary to Jacks usual cynicism, they only advise installing the latest Java and not being dumb enough to click accept security certificate, not install the software they may sell.

Even so, some Mac users will still argue it is BS, that is fine, they will be the ones to suffer in the long term, windows users are getting better and free AV software, I am sure Apple will do the same, it will just require people to sit up and take notice rather than stick their head in the sand and say it isn't a problem.

JackClark 06 April 2012 04:36 PM


Originally Posted by jonc (Post 10565820)
Booby prize for you for stating at that time that this would never happen. :rolleyes:

Source? I can dig out me saying what you said if you like, it was 10 years ago but it's out there.

JackClark 06 April 2012 04:43 PM

OK, here's a question that I used to ask my customers, Which viruses have you had lately?

No viruses for me. I did get clickjacked on Facebook, but that's schoolboy stuff.

jonc 06 April 2012 05:14 PM

Jack, Scoobynet has a search function that you can use if you can't remember what you said, but I and everybody else knows that you asserted that Mac OS is the most secure OS and malware was simply not an issue for Macs. Well Flashback trojan has proved you wrong. You also said the same for iOS, well I guess we'll have to wait for that, but for now those lemons must be pretty bitter for you. :lol1:

ramdor 06 April 2012 05:40 PM


On execution, the malware checks if the following path exists in the system:

1) /Library/Little Snitch
2) /Developer/Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/MacOS/Xcode
3) /Applications/VirusBarrier X6.app
4) /Applications/iAntiVirus/iAntiVirus.app
5) /Applications/avast!.app
6) /Applications/ClamXav.app
7) /Applications/HTTPScoop.app
8) /Applications/Packet Peeper.app

If any of these are found, the malware will skip the rest of its routine and proceed to delete itself.
Thankfully 1 + 2 on my system, heh.

Richie.

JackClark 06 April 2012 05:50 PM


Originally Posted by jonc (Post 10566206)
Jack, Scoobynet has a search function that you can use if you can't remember what you said, but I and everybody else knows that you asserted that Mac OS is the most secure OS and malware was simply not an issue for Macs. Well Flashback trojan has proved you wrong. You also said the same for iOS, well I guess we'll have to wait for that, but for now those lemons must be pretty bitter for you. :lol1:

I remember exactly what I said, I said the same as you, quite publicly. I was thinking more of Google to find it, it's embarrassing, give it ten years and you'll probably feel the same.

I would never say that Malware is not an issue for any operating system, and certainly not any applications.

JackClark 06 April 2012 05:53 PM


Originally Posted by ramdor (Post 10566239)
On execution, the malware checks if the following path exists in the system:

Not Sophos, why didn't it care about Sophos?

An0n0m0us 06 April 2012 06:18 PM


Originally Posted by Galifrey (Post 10565935)
Even so, some Mac users will still argue it is BS, that is fine, they will be the ones to suffer in the long term, windows users are getting better and free AV software, I am sure Apple will do the same, it will just require people to sit up and take notice rather than stick their head in the sand and say it isn't a problem.


There is already free anti virus software for OSX, I use Sophos which is free for OSX and a leading global AV provider. That's what's so absurd, people deliberately choose not to have AV on their MACs when there is a leading product they can have for free.

ramdor 06 April 2012 07:02 PM


Originally Posted by JackClark (Post 10566252)
Not Sophos, why didn't it care about Sophos?

It was just the later variants that started checking for stuff Jack. I guess the evil muppets release newer versions to increase it's successful delivery. God only knows why Apple waited 8 weeks from the time oracle/sun fixed it, a patch should have come out within the first week imo. Ah well.

JackClark 06 April 2012 07:16 PM

Who says Apple waited six weeks. Maybe the update wasn't made available.

SwissTony 06 April 2012 07:59 PM


Originally Posted by JackClark (Post 10566371)
Who says Apple waited six weeks. Maybe the update wasn't made available.

Unfortunately they did Jack, you know what Apple are like.
Sun releases a patch and then Apple release it in their own time once they have veted it. Anyway this will all change very soon as Apple are turning away from the onus on them to release the Java updates as reported a while back and it will be up to the users to update their own systems


http://news.cnet.com/8301-31021_3-20020338-260.html

JackClark 06 April 2012 08:23 PM

Two iMacs visited today neither had Java installed. This incident is the death knell for Java.

jonc 06 April 2012 09:47 PM


Originally Posted by JackClark (Post 10566460)
Two iMacs visited today neither had Java installed. This incident is the death knell for Java.

:lol: You concluded that from visiting 2 iMacs :cuckoo::lol:

jonc 06 April 2012 09:55 PM


Originally Posted by SwissTony (Post 10566419)
Unfortunately they did Jack, you know what Apple are like.
Sun releases a patch and then Apple release it in their own time once they have veted it. Anyway this will all change very soon as Apple are turning away from the onus on them to release the Java updates as reported a while back and it will be up to the users to update their own systems


http://news.cnet.com/8301-31021_3-20020338-260.html

Security flaws have existed in OSX for some time but Apple been perpetuating the falsehood that it's a secure OS that isn't affected my malware. It's long been one of their selling points and lots of people have fallen for it and continue to do so.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57...a-big-problem/

hutton_d 06 April 2012 10:42 PM


Originally Posted by JackClark (Post 10566371)
Who says Apple waited six weeks. Maybe the update wasn't made available.

And I thought you were just ignoring the url I posted stating this. But it turns out that it seems you're so arrogant that you don't actually read anyone else's posts .....

Dave

Shaun 06 April 2012 10:58 PM


Originally Posted by kingofturds (Post 10564945)
Still a long way to go before they catch up with windows. Running windows without any anti virus is like barebacking a $5 whore.

Is that right.... I don't run any anti-virus! ;)

JackClark 06 April 2012 11:34 PM


Originally Posted by hutton_d (Post 10566747)
And I thought you were just ignoring the url I posted stating this. But it turns out that it seems you're so arrogant that you don't actually read anyone else's posts .....

Dave

I'd read it before you posted it. I don't see any statement suggesting Apple thought it would be funny to hold on for six weeks before releasing a patch.

Don't believe the hype.

Galifrey 07 April 2012 12:38 AM


Originally Posted by JackClark (Post 10566834)

Don't believe the hype.

haha that's good coming from someone who LIVES off the hype, Apples!

Ant 07 April 2012 07:48 AM

I don't believe he does, just uses it to wind the suckers up on this board.

JackClark 07 April 2012 08:16 AM


Originally Posted by Ant (Post 10566935)
I don't believe he does, just uses it to wind the suckers up on this board.

There's way more hype from he Apple haters than from Apple.

corradoboy 08 April 2012 07:10 PM

Seven Macs checked, all clean √


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