Originally Posted by sarasquares
(Post 8333063)
cigarettes were once hailed as 'cool'. this contributed to the public smoking them, i think it was after this that health warnings became available.
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Originally Posted by Dedrater
(Post 8333085)
A conspiracy? do you think smoking is not bad for health?
where have i given you any idea that it is not bad for your health? :wonder: |
Originally Posted by Dedrater
(Post 8332152)
I still can't believe that 24.1 per cent of people in this country still smoke, surly these people are at the bottom end of the society ladder and thus we don't want them to stop, this way the government would save £0000's in Dole money and such like as there quicker deaths and decreased chance of giving birth to more 'low life' is massively increased.
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Originally Posted by Dedrater
(Post 8333085)
A conspiracy? do you think smoking is not bad for health?
what i am trying to say is there are people addicted to cigarettes, the same people that smoked them when there were no health warnings available. had they been given the information we have these days some of those people would never have started smoking. |
Originally Posted by sarasquares
(Post 8332972)
because there is no way of ingesting it in the same way as smoking it to get it in your system. the feeling you get would be different.
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Originally Posted by Dedrater
(Post 8333105)
Have you tried? Surly you are not doing it for the feeling, you are doing it to stop a craving (that is all in your head) for a drug.
you are doing it because it temporarily removes the craving signals that your brain receives. for some people the brain is not as receptive to these alternatives so a substitute wont work |
Originally Posted by Dedrater
(Post 8333045)
It is a fact that its bad for your health, it is a poison.
If a Doctor said to you, take this pill and you will never want or need to smoke again, would you take it? Would you agree that you need to lie to yourself everyday in a vain attempt to justify what you do? If someone said that the next fag you smoke will trigger lung cancer in your body, would you smoke it? This is the risk you run everyday I tried a pill to try and make me stop, unfortunately I ended up having a suspected fit, and even the doctors advice was to try again when I was ready. They didn't think the pill was worth the risk. Oh and I don't lie to myself everyday, I just don't think about it right now, hopefully one day, I will find the inner strength to give up. Smokers don't happily smoke anyway, fags create a void that never existed in the first place, not fill one. Possibly, it's a habit we get into, and is harder to break than I'd like it to be. That may be down to lack of willpower, I accept that. Tbh, many people will have started before they new the risks, and I'd imagine most would stop if either they believe it is so harmful, or if it was really easy. But you are still trying to argue to a point, about something that you do but have no idea why you do it? Can you sort of see my point/? I know why I do it in terms of habit, and in terms that it is my way to relax, de-stress etc. That isn't a good reason, but it is mine. If I could just stop, I probably would, but I admit I can't. My Dad, for example, is one person I never thought would quit, but one day out of the blue, he just threw them away, and never looked back, used nothing to help him. As a smoker, you have to come to a point like that, by yourself, and not because of what others want generally. Yes I sort of see where you are coming from, the only issue I really had any problem with was you assuming smokers are from the bottom of the social scale, that's not fair. |
Sorry fooked up the quote, I'm useless. :o
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Originally Posted by Lisawrx
(Post 8333126)
Sorry fooked up the quote, I'm useless. :o
dont worry hun, ive never been able to do it :D |
Originally Posted by sarasquares
(Post 8333136)
dont worry hun, ive never been able to do it :D
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Originally Posted by ash002004
(Post 8333143)
Don't worry ladies, at least I can do it :norty: :p lol
i say if you've got it, flout it :D |
Originally Posted by sarasquares
(Post 8333136)
dont worry hun, ive never been able to do it :D
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Originally Posted by Lisawrx
(Post 8333118)
...the only issue I really had any problem with was you assuming smokers are from the bottom of the social scale, that's not fair.
I think the best way to get smokers to stop is for society to think they are disgusting so the smokers actually take a step back and have a look at themselves and realise what they are doing (i.e not try to make out smoking is nice, a pleasure etc) and ultimately stop. |
Originally Posted by Lisawrx
(Post 8333157)
Computers just aren't for me. :o :lol1:
its a bloke thing :D |
Originally Posted by Dedrater
(Post 8333164)
I agree, it wasn't, but smokers are aware of the health risks, know that it costs them £140 a month minimum (20 a day), know that it makes them smell unpleasant, summer months are a nightmare in an office environment, know that is socially unaccepted but they continue to do it.
I think the best way to get smokers to stop is for society to think they are disgusting so the smokers actually take a step back and have a look at themselves and realise what they are doing (i.e not try to make out smoking is nice, a pleasure etc) and ultimately stop. I smell just fine :norty: Costs me around 40quid a month, thats smoking 20 L&B a day :thumb: Im a student and a decorator, bingo caller by night, DJ at weekends, office environments dont bother me :nono: Im fully aware of the healthrisks printed over each pack, yet I still would like to smoke. Im aware I may die younger, then again I drive a really fast subaru impreza and i know i may die from driving that, yet i will still drive it. I play Ice hockey and i know full well i could break my neck, back, die from a hit to the head etc, yet ill still play. I DJ in clubs and may well be piled upon by many fit women in a mad rush, and seriously hurt myself, but ill do it anyway :norty: lol |
Originally Posted by ash002004
(Post 8333201)
Socially unaccepted....I know way more smokers than I know non-smokers
I smell just fine :norty: Costs me around 40quid a month, thats smoking 20 L&B a day :thumb: Im a student and a decorator, bingo caller by night, DJ at weekends, office environments dont bother me :nono: Im fully aware of the healthrisks printed over each pack, yet I still would like to smoke. Im aware I may die younger, then again I drive a really fast subaru impreza and i know i may die from driving that, yet i will still drive it. I play Ice hockey and i know full well i could break my neck, back, die from a hit to the head etc, yet ill still play. I DJ in clubs and may well be piled upon by many fit women in a mad rush, and seriously hurt myself, but ill do it anyway :norty: lol you mean just the one large lady :p |
Originally Posted by Dedrater
(Post 8333164)
I agree, it wasn't, but smokers are aware of the health risks, know that it costs them £140 a month minimum (20 a day), know that it makes them smell unpleasant, summer months are a nightmare in an office environment, know that is socially unaccepted but they continue to do it.
I think the best way to get smokers to stop is for society to think they are disgusting so the smokers actually take a step back and have a look at themselves and realise what they are doing (i.e not try to make out smoking is nice, a pleasure etc) and ultimately stop. Bar outside, or smelling people, most non smokers now go uneffected by those who do. Live and let live. Do we attempt to ban drink completely because some go over the top, and cause trouble, usually to far more than any smoker could, not to mention the harm they can do to themselves? |
Originally Posted by sarasquares
(Post 8333209)
you mean just the one large lady :p
nah in all seriousness, I don't judge people by their apperance :) |
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