Originally Posted by The Pink Ninja
(Post 11779531)
So no STi will hit 60 in 2nd?
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Originally Posted by RS_Matt
(Post 11779507)
I take corners in 1st in my WRX and look back to see mr STI coming round in 2nd or 3rd waiting to spool or stop spinning!
Originally Posted by The Pink Ninja
(Post 11779531)
So no STi will hit 60 in 2nd?
Originally Posted by Ash Webster
(Post 11779533)
exactly what im thinking. im gonna have to test this on the way home from work
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Originally Posted by The Pink Ninja
(Post 11779531)
So no STi will hit 60 in 2nd?
Only going from info and tested results published on other sites. They may do! I can not confirm or deny this personally. |
JDM sti rev limit is 8250rpm and will defo hit 60 in second on a 6 speed box
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Exactly my point :lol1: I was being pedantic, seems to be a lot of generalising going on...most of it horse $hit if im honest :D
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Some info from another siteL
I am thinking about the 0-60 times. I am wondering how the new 6 speed tranny and the gear ratios will factor into the 0-60 times. My current 02 WRX can easily hit 60 in 2nd gear (red line in 2nd is 68 mph). According to my calculations, the 04 STi should require another gear change to hit 60 (red line in 2nd being 56 mph). I know that there is plenty of speculation about 0-60 times, but most seem to say mid-high 4.x If this is true, and an additional shift is necessary, it would equate to some pretty dramatic increases in accelleration! Any thoughts or input? Variables used in calulating: STi: 1st gear 3.636, 2nd gear 2.375, final drive 3.9 red line 7000. WRX: 1st gear 3.454, 2nd gear 1.947, final drive 3.9 red line 7000. Tire diameter for both: 24.97 |
Originally Posted by banny sti
(Post 11779537)
JDM sti rev limit is 8250rpm and will defo hit 60 in second on a 6 speed box
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JDM's don't have 7k limit ;)
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But aRSe_Matt wasn't talking about a JDM. :)
Besides, who wants a JDM car! :D |
Originally Posted by ScoobyDoo69
(Post 11779534)
A UK STi pre Hawkeye won't, or will just about hit 60 on the speedo, but not real speed.
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Sorry I'm just talking newage.
I know there were various gearboxes and ratios between the classic STis, RAs, WRXs etc. So I wouldn't be able to comment. |
Originally Posted by BrownPantsRacing
(Post 11779544)
But aRSe_Matt wasn't talking about a JDM. :)
Besides, who wants a JDM car! :D |
Originally Posted by BrownPantsRacing
(Post 11779540)
As you say, increase in rev limit will do it no problems.
Obviously engines that have been suitably modified to shift the peak output higher in the rev range will benefit from higher rpm limits, but for most cars your rate of acceleration (0-60 time) will be in decline the further past peak output you go. Of course most of us realise that none of the limitations to human achievement imposed by the Universal Laws of Physics generally apply to certain WRX owners, but that's what makes them 'special', isn't it ;) |
Finishing work in 15 mins. Will test out the 2nd gear 0-60 after warming it up, will post honest results in about 1 hour.
I have a sneaky feeling my pressure is down to 0.8 from 1.2 however, might be simple case of bad batch of fuel and rest ecu. |
Originally Posted by Ash Webster
(Post 11779609)
Finishing work in 15 mins. Will test out the 2nd gear 0-60 after warming it up, will post honest results in about 1 hour.
I have a sneaky feeling my pressure is down to 0.8 from 1.2 however, might be simple case of bad batch of fuel and rest ecu. |
Originally Posted by Ash Webster
(Post 11779609)
Finishing work in 15 mins. Will test out the 2nd gear 0-60 after warming it up, will post honest results in about 1 hour.
I have a sneaky feeling my pressure is down to 0.8 from 1.2 however, might be simple case of bad batch of fuel and rest ecu. Also, what car have you got? Matt has the worlds fastest Newage WRX. |
yeh just done it on the way home. 65 around before 8k rpm, not even close to red lining.
pressure is down to 0.8 . time to reset the ecu. if this dont work back to scoobytec before pod ;p |
Originally Posted by The Pink Ninja
(Post 11779531)
so no STi will hit 60 in 2nd?
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Timed using your speedo I presume?
Remember that this is very likely not correct and will be over reading (by law) rather than spot on. The legislation regading a cars speedometer are below: The law for car speedometers in the UK The UK law is based on theEU standard, with some minor changes. A speedo must never show less than the actual speed, and must never show more than 110% of actual speed + 6.25mph. So if your true speed is 40mph, your speedo could legally be reading up to 50.25mph but never less than 40mph. Or to put it another way, if your speedo is reading 50mph, you won’t be doing more than 50mph but it’s possible you might actually only be travelling at 40mph. Best way is to use Satnav speed. |
The above calculation isn't correct if you work it out, but the 110% rule still stands.
It does mean that you could be travelling at 54.55mph when your speedo reads 60. |
Originally Posted by JGlanzaV
(Post 11779623)
Mine will... Actually I reckon mine will do more than 60 in 2nd....
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Originally Posted by BrownPantsRacing
(Post 11779544)
But aRSe_Matt wasn't talking about a JDM. :)
Besides, who wants a JDM car! :D
Originally Posted by The Pink Ninja
(Post 11779603)
He's still in denial that they exist, the mythical 60mph 2nd gear STi :lol1:
My WRX doesn't hit 60 in 2nd even with a 7500 limit so the STI must be slower lb for lb for the other reasons. |
You mean because it's heavier but still records a better 0-60 time with an additional gear change :p
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Originally Posted by BrownPantsRacing
(Post 11779626)
The above calculation isn't correct if you work it out, but the 110% rule still stands.
It does mean that you could be travelling at 54.55mph when your speedo reads 60. |
Originally Posted by Ash Webster
(Post 11779651)
Well mines a jap import so pretty sure doesn't need to stick to them rules?
But also begs a question how do you know your speedo is correct as it would have originally read in km/h? |
Originally Posted by ScoobyDoo69
(Post 11779478)
lol at the 330bhp keeping up with a 450bhp STi over 400 yards and 700bhp over 100 yards.
You're so caught up on beating Arf's old car over the 60ft aren't you? :D So I also don't believe a 330bhp wrx will keep up with a 450 Sti!! Did some number crunching on power to weight ratios between the Sti and wrx. A uk 2005 wrx weighs 1390kg A uk 2005 Sti weighs 1470kg If both cars had 265 bhp that would give a bhp per ton of 190.6 bhp for the wrx 180.2 bhp for the Sti. The wrx would have a 10.4bhp power to weight advantage. Hardly enough to destroy a Sti! A longer gear ratio on the wrx would mean it would have a slower in gear acceleration than the Sti, but would hit a higher speed in that gear, Think I'll take the extra weight knowing I've got the stronger gearbox, limited slip diffs and bigger brakes. |
Originally Posted by InTurbo
(Post 11779684)
So I don't believe a 330bhp wrx will keep up with a 450 Sti!!
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Can't remember what engine Steve was running at the time, either a 2.5 or 2.35 with a GT30R, running around 500/500 despite his claims otherwise. Said see ya later to him too. :D
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Originally Posted by InTurbo
(Post 11779684)
My mates 2005 wrx with circa 300bhp gets left by my 370bhp 440ftlbs hawk Sti, and every time he's in my car he wishes his pulled like mine!
So I also don't believe a 330bhp wrx will keep up with a 450 Sti!! Did some number crunching on power to weight ratios between the Sti and wrx. A uk 2005 wrx weighs 1390kg A uk 2005 Sti weighs 1470kg If both cars had 265 bhp that would give a bhp per ton of 190.6 bhp for the wrx 180.2 bhp for the Sti. The wrx would have a 10.4bhp power to weight advantage. Hardly enough to destroy a Sti! A longer gear ratio on the wrx would mean it would have a slower in gear acceleration than the Sti, but would hit a higher speed in that gear, Think I'll take the extra weight knowing I've got the stronger gearbox, limited slip diffs and bigger brakes. P.S your's is considered the perfect road engine and the only thing that puts people off is the various problems associated with the 2.5L and the cost of repair. :thumb: |
Originally Posted by BrownPantsRacing
(Post 11779653)
Yours is a 98 import STI so is a little irrelevant as a test against Matt's (amazing) newage WRX anyhow. Totally different.
But also begs a question how do you know your speedo is correct as it would have originally read in km/h? One guy wanted to race me in his 500hp Classic WRX to prove the Newage STI was quicker then the Newage WRX!! ...and they say I'm mad! I'll just get my mate to bring his R1 out to settle things once and for all. I think the STI fanboys have taken 'Born to race' too literally. It had a top mount, 9.9secs can't be done!!!!!! Unless it was Fat-Thomas whupping his wife's 215hp Bugeye WRX in his 430hp Blob STI that has created SN WRX denial? |
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