Your all crazy as far as im concerned jews christains muslims whatever .

Were just a freak of nature the end of a long line - if you want to worship anything you should worship the sun :thumb:

That is all rubbish. Israel's enemies make no distinction between civilian and combatants (where is your outrage there). They even celebrate the death of Israeli kids. Child killers return homes as heros. Israel otoh even drops leaflets and phones up areas when they are going to demolish enemy buildings etc.

You won't see Israelis celebrating the death of Palestinian kids.


You could say the same for any immigrants to the UK.

Yeah like that hospital, that Red Cross convy, the school and those photographers just last year.... they must just have not got a leaflet eh? :Whatever_

I don't know about them but did Israel deliberately target them? I doubt it very much.

From any moral POV the IDF is much better than it's enemies, not that it is perfect of course though.

I never hear of Hezzbollah or Hamas gunmen being held to account.

A UN enquiry judged them to be guilty of war crimes - crime against humanity

(The have turned Gaza into a warped facsimile of the Warsaw ghetto)





stupid and irrelevent comment, only showing your analysis to be bollox, show me an Englishman that has has his house bulldozed to accomodate an immigrant

notwithstanding the fact that the hordes of bused in Jews were not immigrants and had automatic citzenship and residency rights in Israel -- no wonder they needed "living-room".

The UN said Saddam had WMD's.

What would you want your Government to do if there was a country next door launching terrorist attacks? Sit back and do nothing? No you would want a blockade.



Israeli immigration policy is not your business.

I've admitted the settlements are an issue but otoh the Israli state has shown it will use force to removed them.

I believe your point was an existential one though not specifically pertaining to settlers because most Israelis are not right-wing setters.

Like I said it's hard to say Jews should not be in Israeli when you presumably think it's ok for say Indian or Pakistanis to come to the UK.

The difference is the IDF are supposed to be an organised army of a civiilised nation and as people keep tellng us the best fighting force in the world... mind you they used to say that about another country a few decades back now.

Anyway given all that do you seriously exopect us to believe they didn't target those locations deliberately ... it was all just an accident... doubt it somehow. For a start I would imagine when staring through the sights of a rocket launcher the big red cross on the sisde of the Red Cross convoy may have been a bit of a giveaway as to what it was. The photographers were shot in cold blood and you can even here the discussion that took palce beforehand.

Wow Google is everyone's friend on this thread!

Then it's a double-standard and hypocrisy.

In English?

"Your" (and I'll assume you mean you're)? How have you concluded that I or any of the thread's contributors worship any deity?

As for your second line; a fluke, yes, though when you say "just" it rather detracts from the knowledge that we are a way for the universe to know itself.

Regarding Sun worship, all contemporary religions originate from adoration of the Sun. Ra and Horus in Egypt, Dies Natalis Solis Invicti in Rome, Sol in the Germanic mythology and the Greeks had Helios and Apollo. To bring it in to sharp focus note that Jesus (the Sun) had twelve disciples (the constellations) and was born on the 25th December (sol invictus.)

Well what should one do, drive to the fcuking reference library? :Whatever_

You know what? I remember footage on the BBC news at 5.45 years ago when I was sitting down to my tea, of a couple of Israeli soldiers holding a Palestinian child's arm, elbow upwards, whilst a third soldier smashed the joint with a large rock. The one and only time I've almost thrown my guts up spontaneously at something I've seen on the T.V.

That doesn't prove anything.

the isrealies specialise in killing kids as they know that kid will grow up one day and would want to return the favour for u killing his family.

immigrants in the uk still live in the UK and England will always be England, stop trying to **** stir. don't divert the subject.

when you planning to answer f1 question?

It proves that your beloved Israel ALSO makes no distinction between civilian and combatant, and that your defence of it is hypocritical.

that's barely the scratching the surface the things you see on Arabic tv or footages in you tube are beyond disturbing.

let's all be Frank Muslims ain't perfect neither anyone out there, weather you want to admit it or not isreal get away with anything. they do what ever they please NO ONE POLICES THEM. NO ONE CAN TELL THEM WHAT TO DO. and that's a FACT TONY if you can't agree with that then I'm going to have to ask Banny to show me how to use the ignore function that's it I'm through with u lol

That is just hate filled lies Mus.

Maybe, but there never was state called 'Palestine' anyway. Just a general region within the Ottoman empire.

"Palestine' was never a national identify or state, you make it sound like the Zionists came and took over but it's not like that.

Anyway you support Kosova right? They are Albanians who emigrated to Serbia.

Most of the videos are 'Pallywood' and staged.

That famous one of the kid crying next to his dead dad whilst IDF 'soldiers' shot at him was staged.

One video which may or may not have been real?!

That characterises a whole state?

Wriggle, wriggle, wriggle. Maggot on a hook.

Oh, it was definitely real. :)

to you maybe not Tony but to them and to me and to everyone that knows about the conflict it did and will do again one day don't worry.

Videos, images are not truth, it's the human stories, motivations, emotions etc which are truths. Imagery is just porn, although in this case most of it is fake.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pallywood

Really what do you know about the conflict?

was you a director? how much did you pay actors Tony?
so many artist today sing about the whole Zionist regime. I don't know one artist that praises it.

the only people who support isreal are isrealie or Zionist or just plain iggnorant, I don't support hizzballah or Hamas however they are much kinder than the isrealies. I say it how it is no sophisticated language here. if I see wrong I admit and say it. u see wrong and turn a blind eye just like the rest of the world with isreal.

Of course, Wikipedia is absolutely the most authoritative source you could have chosen. It has far greater integrity and accountability than the BBC. :)

I'm not going to sit here waste an hour for you to turn around and ignore it. google is your bestfriend and YouTube ofcourse.

why would some one just hate someone for no reason think about it????? for every action there's a reaction what triggered it? you must of really pissed them of.

Sure it's a fashionable cause celeb.

They are exploiting the Palestinians suffering though.

Why did the Nazis hate Jews, gypsies, slavs etc?