Interesting, they must have gone to aluminium later on then.
On my hawk its definitely not magnetic |
Originally Posted by TonyBurns
(Post 10517465)
No, plus my MY is an MY03, 2nd one ive had though ive not checked the boot on this one, my first had a steel bootlid, and that car I had since new (as Shaun said, its a wrx bootlid).
Tony:D Are all hawk bootlids ali or just he Spec C/JDM `s:wonder: Tony, I`m still a bit dubious if my result yesterday was a little on the generous side(As in it was spinning/loosing traction a bit on the rollers?) I`m happy with the way it drives on the road so not really bothered, Only put it on to get a comparison from the last dyno it had in 2006, Still makes me wonder if it has had anything done to the turbo though? Gaz. |
My EDM STI has a steel bootlood.
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My MY06 Spec C bootlid is made from aluminium.
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Originally Posted by Robocop
(Post 10517598)
My MY06 Spec C bootlid is made from aluminium.
A few more bits of info here if its anygood to you. http://www.type-ra.co.uk/vB/showthre...7903#post67903 |
Originally Posted by GAZ2293
(Post 10517535)
Magnet sticks to mine:Suspiciou
Are all hawk bootlids ali or just he Spec C/JDM `s:wonder: Tony, I`m still a bit dubious if my result yesterday was a little on the generous side(As in it was spinning/loosing traction a bit on the rollers?) I`m happy with the way it drives on the road so not really bothered, Only put it on to get a comparison from the last dyno it had in 2006, Still makes me wonder if it has had anything done to the turbo though? Gaz. Tony:) |
Originally Posted by Shaun
(Post 10517341)
The part numbers of the doors are different, due to the lack of side impact bars.
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Originally Posted by Shaun
(Post 10517410)
The boot lid is off a WRX and nowt special about that! lol
Originally Posted by MadUsa1
(Post 10517513)
Interesting, they must have gone to aluminium later on then.
On my hawk its definitely not magnetic |
The specs change every year, it's pointless trying to state anything regarding these cars and their differences without stating what year you are refering to.
I made up this comparison, taken straight off the FIA homologation sheets plus the factory spec sheets. Comparison of the MY05 and MY04 models MY05 Blobeye MY04 Blobeye Rear bodywork width 1738mm 1725mm Wheelbase 2540mm 2525mm Rear track 1515mm 1505mm Front body overhang 920mm 930mm Rear body overhang 955mm 960mm Steering wheel to rear bulkhead 1502mm 1510mm Steering wheel to brake pedal 660mm 628mm Conrod weight 578g 549g Flywheel weight 8284g 8439g Air charge temp sensor in plenum Fitted Not Fitted Minimum Homologated weight 1271kg 1293kg Min distance hub to wheel arch F333mm R277mm F350mm R315mm Head/Bore Comb chamber min vol 67.8cm3 66.6cm3 Head Combustion chamber min vol 48.5cm3 48.5cm3 Max compression ratio 8.3:1 8.5:1 Downpipe flange diameter 130x82mm 110x64mm Front LSD Helical Suretrack Rear LSD Plated Plated Front ARB 20mm 19mm Wheel size 17x8 17x7.5 Spec C additional homologations MY05 only Alloy boot lid Added Roof Vent Added Boot IC water tank Added Min weight Min 1234kg Oil capacity Decrease to 5.3L Fuel tank capacity 51.5L Engine oil cooler oil/air Gearbox oil cooler oil/air Fuel pump baffle chamber Added Rear wiper Deleted No Spec C homologation was made for the MY02/03/04 Comparison of the MY05 and MY06 models MY05 Blobeye MY06 Hawkeye Engine size 1994.3cc 1997.8cc Overall length 4415mm 4465mm Front body overhang 920mm 975mm Rear body overhang 955mm 950mm Steering wheel to rear bulkhead 1502mm 1660mm Steering wheel to brake pedal 660mm 640mm Bore 92.0mm 92.02mm Stroke 75.0mm 75.1mm Gearbox drop gear ratio 1:1 1.1:1 Gearbox drop gear teeth 31:31 33:30 Rear diff ratio 10:39 11:39 Rear bootlid material steel aluminium Bonnet scoop aperture height 90mm 60mm Minimum Homologated weight 1271kg 1345kg Min distance hub to wheel arch F333mm R277mm F340mm R310mm Head/Bore Comb chamber min vol 67.8cm3 67.1cm3 Head Combustion chamber min vol 48.5cm3 48.5cm3 Max compression ratio 8.3:1 8.4:1 Lubrication system total capacity 5.5L 5.0L Fuel Pump Unisia JECS 3.75l/min Hitachi 3.75l/min Alternator 900Watts 1080Watts Torque split range Front 35%-50% 41%-50% Torque split range Rear 65%-50% 59%-50% Front LSD Helical Helical Rear LSD Plated Plated Spec C additional homologations Alloy boot lid Added As STi Roof Vent Added Added Boot IC water tank Added Added Min weight Min 1234kg Min 1300kg Oil capacity Decrease to 5.3L Increase to 5.3L Fuel tank capacity 51.5L 51.5L and 61.5L Engine oil cooler oil/air oil/air Gearbox oil cooler oil/air oil/air Fuel pump baffle chamber Added Added Rear wiper Deleted Deleted GroupN spec opened up in 2006 for more modifications using none OEM parts to allow 5 speed gear kit, 19mm and 21mm ARB’s, Front plated LSD, larger brakes, Servo delete, hydraulic handbrake etc…. |
MY07 JDM STi and Spec C wasn't homologated.
Other main differences between the cars are as follows MY07 JDM STi Hawkeye MY07 Spec C Hawkeye Rear LSD Torsen Plated Boot lid Steel Aluminium Weight 1460kg 1390kg Rear cross bar no yes Headlamp HID projector Turbo core Sleave ball bearing IC Spray bottle Engine boot Engine oil cooler oil/water oil/air Gearbox oil cooler none oil/air fuel pump surge no yes reverse buzzer yes no rear wiper yes no double horn yes no aerial glass pillar rear speakers yes no rear seat armrest yes no passenger visor yes no assist grips yes no map spot lights yes no remote door handle yes no fuel tank 60L 50L roof vent no yes UV privacy glass yes no leather handbrake yes no steering cooler no yes wiper blade fin yes no ally shifter ring yes no |
Cheers for the post John! That should answer any question that may be asked in the next few weeks. :D
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Prices in Japan using exchange rate at the time
Prices in Japan using current exchange rate in bold Prices as imported to UK would have been much higher post import duty, taxes and SVA The Spec C version came mostly as a 17" version, the 16" version was significantly cheaper! MY05 JDM STi 3,203,000 Yen £16,176 £24,755 3,302,000 Yen with privacy glass option (as per mine) £16,676 £25,520 MY05 JDM STi Spec C 17" 3,433,000 Yen £17,338 £26,532 Price difference to JDM STi +131,000 Yen = +£650 = +£1012 = +3.9% MY05 JDM STi Spec C 16" 2,951,000 Yen £14,904 £22,807 Price difference to JDM STi -351,000 Yen = -£1772 = -£2712 = -8.5% MY06 JDM STi 3,307,000 Yen £16131 £25,559 MY06 JDM STi Spec C 17" 3,405,000 Yen £16609 £26,316 Price difference to JDM STi +98,000 Yen = +£478 +£757 = +2.9% MY06 JDM STi Spec C 16" 2,974,000 Yen £14507 £22,985 Price difference to JDM STi -333,000 Yen = -£1624 -£2573 = -14.5% MY07 JDM STi 3,344,000 Yen £14229 £25,845 MY07 JDM STi Spec C 17" 3,436,000 Yen £14621 £26,556 Price difference +92,000 Yen = +£391 +£711 = +2.7% MY07 JDM STi Spec C 16" 3,007,000 Yen £12795 £23,240 Price difference to JDM STi -337,000 Yen = -£1434 -£2604 = -11.2% Just looking at the exchange rate differences, you can see why the JDM spec cars are rare and are not being imported anymore, which is keeping their prices relatively high. 2007 was a good year to be a JDM importer! 2012 most definately isnt! |
John you got to much time on your hands!! :D
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I wish that were true these days! Was in work this morning finishing off a car.
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I can never figure out with my Spec C Motorsport is why it comes with factory fitted air con, electric windows and central locking.
Why go for the lightweight version and then add weight back onto it? :cuckoo: |
But it's entertaining to drive with no ABS and AP 6 pot calipers on the front. :D
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Originally Posted by Cannon Fodder
(Post 10517903)
I can never figure out with my Spec C Motorsport is why it comes with factory fitted air con, electric windows and central locking.
Why go for the lightweight version and then add weight back onto it? :cuckoo: |
Originally Posted by Cannon Fodder
(Post 10517903)
I can never figure out with my Spec C Motorsport is why it comes with factory fitted air con, electric windows and central locking.
Why go for the lightweight version and then add weight back onto it? :cuckoo: |
16" Spec C doesn't have an engine oil cooler fitted.
Air Con was a factory optional extra on 16" Spec C. |
Originally Posted by johnfelstead
(Post 10518012)
16" Spec C doesn't have an engine oil cooler fitted.
Air Con was a factory optional extra on 16" Spec C. |
Juggers, funnily enough I junked the AC when I had the engine rebuilt as the condensor was in the way of my Setrab competition oil cooler radiator.
The only thing left that I'm considering 'sorting out' is converting the DCCD to automatic by the fitment of a controller called DCCD Pro or similar. |
how much does the aircon weigh in these things?
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Originally Posted by juggers
(Post 10517847)
John you got too much hair on your palms!! :D
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Originally Posted by TonyBurns
(Post 10517128)
As John said, the first was the MY05, they used the standard STI for the others.
Tony:) |
Originally Posted by Shaun
(Post 10518261)
Corrected!!
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Originally Posted by johnfelstead
(Post 10517121)
Sure http://www.sti.jp/e/competitor/n_homologation/2005.html is the listing of all homologation papers between 2000 and 2006
The footnote at the bottom will save you looking through all the papers (being a nerd i have read them all in the past :D ) "For the homologation forms, please refer to the table of homologated cars listed according to the type of cars. Type B, C, D of IMPREZA WRX STi Spec C(JPN model) is not homologated." So indeed the 2006 Spec C (GDBF4FH) IS FIA homologated. |
Originally Posted by T5NYW
(Post 10516895)
JDM is in a different league I loved my JDM Type 20 to bits ;) I didn't reckon I could afford a new 2011 JDM Saloon so bought a UK 340R.
I am trying to source a JDM BRZ as I don't want half a car ;) Tony |
I'd say worlds apart in performance terms.
That's based on having driven a spec c in anger, and having owned an MY05 remapped STI with approx 335bhp. Handling was similar apart from a quicker steering rack. |
Dave is a good friend of mine and you Sir,have got a great car,look after it well.
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Originally Posted by MadUsa1
(Post 10524115)
Tony - how does your UK 340R compare to the Spec C in terms of performance and handling?
handling would be similar in standard form. Although I found it to harsh on the road main problem is the very flexible bushes and very stiff suspension doesn't help comfort or handling IMHO Im not tracking the 340r but if I was I'd would have possibly gone up a spring rate. So I have softened up the suspension with AST coilovers but now need to sort out bushes as too soft The biggest missings are No turbo lag quick rack Feedback through steering Tony |
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