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JGlanzaV 19 October 2014 12:13 PM

Have you messed around with the damping settings? You want as soft as it will go on the rear and hard up front

RS_Matt 19 October 2014 03:20 PM


Originally Posted by JGlanzaV (Post 11542480)
Have you messed around with the damping settings? You want as soft as it will go on the rear and hard up front

Just set 16 clicks back 14 clicks front. I read softer front fights over steer. Thought to be honest it's the back I've always had trouble with, steped out every chance.

Things are still a 5 year plan regarding the 11.9 I'm casually chasing times at the moment, spoiler removal and suspension tweaking will be a last resort.

JGlanzaV 19 October 2014 03:25 PM


Originally Posted by RS_Matt (Post 11542615)
Just set 16 clicks back 14 clicks front. I read softer front fights over steer. Thought to be honest it's the back I've always had trouble with, steped out every chance.

Things are still a 5 year plan regarding the 11.9 I'm casually chasing times at the moment, spoiler removal and suspension tweaking will be a last resort.


Why would tweaking the damping be a last resort? The free stuff is always the stuff you do first. Take the spoiler off will help with terminal times and the damping will help with launch

It takes 3 seconds to go full soft on the rear and full hard on the front and will help your launch. Then you just put it back k when you are finished. Its all the little things like that that make a difference

RS_Matt 19 October 2014 03:28 PM


Originally Posted by JGlanzaV (Post 11542620)
Why would tweaking the damping be a last resort? The free stuff is always the stuff you do first. Take the spoiler off will help with terminal times and the damping will help with launch

It takes 3 seconds to go full soft on the rear and full hard on the front and will help your launch. Then you just put it back k when you are finished. Its all the little things like that that make a difference

Got to remove the rear seat to tweak the rear on a Newage but I suppose I could get the adjusters fitted for little outlay.

RS_Matt 19 October 2014 03:30 PM


Originally Posted by kevfawcett (Post 11542460)
I'd love to see some of your working out to come up with 30bhp = 300lbs

I can't even begin to get my head around how you've come up with them figures

It's safe to say, I'm not a fan of this project

I did a lot of research to come up with 10lb = 1bhp.

The formula slightly changes though as you increase or decrease weight.

JGlanzaV 19 October 2014 03:31 PM


Originally Posted by RS_Matt (Post 11542622)
Got to remove the rear seat to tweak the rear on a Newage but I suppose I could get the adjusters fitted for little outlay.

Well get it done ;) Back at the start of my thread there is a picture of my car sitting down on the rear under launch that will show you the difference

kevfawcett 19 October 2014 03:50 PM


Originally Posted by RS_Matt (Post 11542623)
I did a lot of research to come up with 10lb = 1bhp.

The formula slightly changes though as you increase or decrease weight.

The definition of formula - A statement, especially an equation, of a fact, rule, principle, or other logical relation.

You need to do more research.

I'd say you are missing lots of other important factors, such as drag…….

2pot 19 October 2014 04:06 PM


Originally Posted by RS_Matt (Post 11542449)
And a 220lb driver doesn't help.

Like I say my tyres were full of mud and the track was damp and 11c, I spun considerably compared to summer runs.

I think 12.6 isn't a time I would have got in the summer. That said it took 30bhp to get from 13.7 to 13.3 and 35bhp to get from 13.3 to 12.6.

It's gonna take another 30bhp to be sure and in weight that is 300lbs. :eek:

You can't get from 13.3 to 12.6 with a 35hp increase, unless you were, previously, completely messing up the start.
When your 0-60ft are within 0.02 sec, on the same day, given the same conditions, then you're consistent. The very best are within 0.01.

RS_Matt 19 October 2014 07:52 PM


Originally Posted by kevfawcett (Post 11542634)
The definition of formula - A statement, especially an equation, of a fact, rule, principle, or other logical relation.

You need to do more research.

I'd say you are missing lots of other important factors, such as drag…….

Don't need to 1bhp per 10lb is widely accepted in the Scoob communities.


Originally Posted by 2pot (Post 11542646)
You can't get from 13.3 to 12.6 with a 35hp increase, unless you were, previously, completely messing up the start.
When your 0-60ft are within 0.02 sec, on the same day, given the same conditions, then you're consistent. The very best are within 0.01.

Don't forget boost went from 1 bar to 1.35 bar which meant exceptionally more torque across the revs.

TBH when I did my 13.3 in April my 0-60 foot was 1.89 and when I did my 12.6 last week it was 1.88 the latter having far more wheel spin.

An uneducated guess is if I had stickier tyres on a warmer day that time may have been pushing 1.7 - providing my wooden WRX gearbox could take it ;)

Last year I could only manage 2.09

Basically been drag racing with 3 stages of power. All best times after a 5-6k launch

13.7secs 280bhp - 2.09
13.3secs 299bhp - 1.89
12.6secs 333bhp - 1.88 but spin.

Got timing slips to prove if need be.

mickywrx 19 October 2014 08:32 PM

What 5 speed box?

TY754VN1AA in mine.

mickywrx 20 October 2014 08:15 PM

Usually a sticker on the bell housing near the starter motor. Also on the plate on the N/S suspension strut.

fat-thomas 20 October 2014 08:26 PM

maybe that fake spoiler is providing so much downforce the diff's hit the ground and in turn the exhaust and pushed it onto the bumper and melted it.

RS_Matt 20 October 2014 08:40 PM


Originally Posted by fat-thomas (Post 11543597)
maybe that fake spoiler is providing so much downforce the diff's hit the ground and in turn the exhaust and pushed it onto the bumper and melted it.

The spoiler, scoop and Skirts are all OE STI.

I borrowed all the best bits from it. :norty:

EDIT: My gearbox is a TY754. AFAIK the box for the WRX 92-02 is the same 03-2014 is the same and the Hawk has it's own box.

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v...ps5af49a67.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v8...psa5caa938.jpg

fat-thomas 20 October 2014 08:47 PM


Originally Posted by RS_Matt (Post 11543612)
The spoiler, scoop and Skirts are all OE STI.

I borrowed all the best bits from it. :norty:

no the cheap bits, the best bits like the engine and gearbox you don't have but are what's required for proper bhp ;)

RS_Matt 20 October 2014 09:00 PM


Originally Posted by fat-thomas (Post 11543622)
no the cheap bits, the best bits like the engine and gearbox you don't have but are what's required for proper bhp ;)

In all seriousness the Newy STI bottom end is probably the only thing I'd have off an STI now. Not a 2.5 unit though. At some stage my engine must fail. I still have the compression print out and got told the bore-scope revealed some serious scoring. Got told a repair would go beyond new rings or a rebore.

Not sure about the STI front spats, I've been torn for 6 years. You like the stealth look Tom, wanna swap bumpers :confused:

neil-h 20 October 2014 09:01 PM


Originally Posted by RS_Matt (Post 11542828)
Don't need to 1bhp per 10lb is widely accepted in the Scoob communities.

Hang on, what? :wonder:

RS_Matt 20 October 2014 09:03 PM


Originally Posted by neil-h (Post 11543642)
Hang on, what? :wonder:

I've been on an Alpen diet the last 3 months and gained 1.7bhp

fat-thomas 20 October 2014 09:05 PM


Originally Posted by RS_Matt (Post 11543641)
In all seriousness the Newy STI bottom end is probably the only thing I'd have off an STI now. Not a 2.5 unit though. At some stage my engine must fail. I still have the compression print out and got told the bore-scope revealed some serious scoring. Got told a repair would go beyond new rings or a rebore.

Not sure about the STI front spats, I've been torn for 6 years. You like the stealth look Tom, wanna swap bumpers :confused:

also for drag times you need the six speed box that's why your terminal times are slow,the avcs would be a good addition too.
my bumpers no good for you mines been cut for an fmic and oil cooler,not the starter kit plonked above the engine

mickywrx 20 October 2014 09:09 PM


Originally Posted by fat-thomas (Post 11543651)
also for drag times you need the six speed box

Why Dan? Other than it copes with more power?

fat-thomas 20 October 2014 09:10 PM


Originally Posted by mickywrx (Post 11543655)
Why Dan? Other than it copes with more power?

lower gearing,accelerates quicker

neil-h 20 October 2014 09:12 PM


Originally Posted by RS_Matt (Post 11543647)
I've been on an Alpen diet the last 3 months and gained 1.7bhp

Would it not be easier to take a load of laxatives when you need the extra power? :wonder:

fat-thomas 20 October 2014 09:13 PM


Originally Posted by neil-h (Post 11543663)
Would it not be easier to take a load of laxatives when you need the extra power? :wonder:

nooo
as you can see he is mostly full of sh1t.
he would disappear.

RS_Matt 20 October 2014 09:18 PM


Originally Posted by mickywrx (Post 11543655)
Why Dan? Other than it copes with more power?

He's trolling.

RS_Matt 20 October 2014 09:20 PM


Originally Posted by neil-h (Post 11543663)
Would it not be easier to take a load of laxatives when you need the extra power? :wonder:

When I get closer to 11.9 the madness will increase.

neil-h 20 October 2014 09:26 PM


Originally Posted by RS_Matt (Post 11543675)
When I get closer to 11.9 the madness will increase.

I'd be careful, what with the law of diminishing turns being what it is. Young master Thomas' prophecy may actually come true.

fat-thomas 20 October 2014 09:30 PM


Originally Posted by neil-h (Post 11543683)
I'd be careful, what with the law of diminishing turns being what it is. Young master Thomas' prophecy may actually come true.

he loses/adds weight depending on time off day.

the lightweight carbon spoiler earlier in the thread has just become a genuine sti item above....;)

RS_Matt 20 October 2014 09:39 PM


Originally Posted by neil-h (Post 11543683)
I'd be careful, what with the law of diminishing turns being what it is. Young master Thomas' prophecy may actually come true.

He always says the opposite of the truth;)

"Matt fitted an STI spoiler" - already on the car
"12.9 is beyond Matt's WRX" - 12.6
"Matt's STI spoiler is fake" - OEM
"Matt say's he's aiming for 10's with 330hp" - How did he come to that conclusion from stating a 11.9 goal
"you can't hear a Turbo spool from over 40 yards away" - Heard AF's from 100 yard away.
"Matt had a carbon fiber spoiler earlier in the thread" - News to me.

...and the 'King Troll say's I'm full of BS lol.

https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/...77865833_o.jpg

Check out his trolling of the BRZ forum:

mickywrx 21 October 2014 07:22 PM


Originally Posted by fat-thomas (Post 11543659)
lower gearing,accelerates quicker

More swapping cogs than with longer gearing though.

On my original JDM short ratio box I was into 5th at the end of the 1/4 mile.

Longer ratio box that's been fitted for ages I can cross the line in 4th.

JGlanzaV 22 October 2014 08:24 AM


Originally Posted by mickywrx (Post 11544423)
More swapping cogs than with longer gearing though.

On my original JDM short ratio box I was into 5th at the end of the 1/4 mile.

Longer ratio box that's been fitted for ages I can cross the line in 4th.

I'm half way through 5th on a 1/4 mile run when I cross the line! That's on a uk blob 6sp the ratios aren't the best

RS_Matt 22 October 2014 09:12 PM

Can cams negate the need for a shorter box?


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