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Originally Posted by InTurbo
(Post 11779684)
My mates 2005 wrx with circa 300bhp gets left by my 370bhp 440ftlbs hawk Sti, and every time he's in my car he wishes his pulled like mine!
So I also don't believe a 330bhp wrx will keep up with a 450 Sti!! Did some number crunching on power to weight ratios between the Sti and wrx. A uk 2005 wrx weighs 1390kg A uk 2005 Sti weighs 1470kg If both cars had 265 bhp that would give a bhp per ton of 190.6 bhp for the wrx 180.2 bhp for the Sti. The wrx would have a 10.4bhp power to weight advantage. Hardly enough to destroy a Sti! A longer gear ratio on the wrx would mean it would have a slower in gear acceleration than the Sti, but would hit a higher speed in that gear, Think I'll take the extra weight knowing I've got the stronger gearbox, limited slip diffs and bigger brakes. The heavier gearbox, clutch, mega power robbing bigger box oil pump assembly, larger brakes and a few other STI only goodies mean less power makes it to the STI wheels so in theory: 190.6 bhp for the wrx is 160 atw 180.2 bhp for the Sti is 140 atw Then there's the argument about launching with a lighter STI flywheel and mods making more power for the WRX through less tranny losses. |
Up your power a bit, then I'd think you were fair game. As it stands, my car would piss all over yours with less power. :thumb:
Jay will pay your entry for TOTB, someone pays mine, I'll prove it. :D ETA: Should that happen, someone paying both entries and you actually turning up, I might event change the winter tyres off my venoms for the sake of it. :D |
Be loads of us at totb in new age sti's
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Is he still making up crap to cover his sti envy....thank fook we sold both our imprezas.
I see tubby's has gained more bhp and my wrx lost some more matt bhp |
Originally Posted by mickywrx
(Post 11779741)
Up your power a bit, then I'd think you were fair game. As it stands, my car would piss all over yours with less power. :thumb:
Jay will pay your entry for TOTB, someone pays mine, I'll prove it. :D ETA: Should that happen, someone paying both entries and you actually turning up, I might event change the winter tyres off my venoms for the sake of it. :D I did always think less grippy tyres were better for lower powered 4x4's drag racing so I kinda stuck with them :/ |
Originally Posted by The Pink Ninja
(Post 11779744)
Be loads of us at totb in new age sti's
I'm 0-1 down against Newage STI's, ironically. Obviously I took the lead and have the slip to prove it, but he flew past me like I was parked at half way. |
Originally Posted by RS_Matt
(Post 11779736)
I have noticed when I do my WRX V STI newage battle threads a lot of People want to settle thing by racing me in their 500hp Classic.
One guy wanted to race me in his 500hp Classic WRX to prove the Newage STI was quicker then the Newage WRX!! ...and they say I'm mad! I'll just get my mate to bring his R1 out to settle things once and for all. I think the STI fanboys have taken 'Born to race' too literally. It had a top mount, 9.9secs can't be done!!!!!! Unless it was Fat-Thomas whupping his wife's 215hp Bugeye WRX in his 430hp Blob STI that has created SN WRX denial? You bang on about all the haters, I have given you the opportunity to go prove yourself to all the haters on here, and you are too chicken **** to go out there and race. To be honest any credibility you had and respect is gone, don't claim things and when you get called out back down... I want you to put up or shut up. I am sick to the back teeth of your bull****, go race or stop posting your ludicrous claims and stories because it makes you look a fool. |
Originally Posted by RS_Matt
(Post 11779749)
I've only raced one Newage STI at the strip and it was EMB's old car running big power.
I'm 0-1 down against Newage STI's, ironically. Obviously I took the lead and have the slip to prove it, but he flew past me like I was parked at half way. |
Originally Posted by RS_Matt
(Post 11779740)
The heavier gearbox, clutch, mega power robbing bigger box oil pump assembly, larger brakes and a few other STI only goodies mean less power makes it to the STI wheels so in theory:
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Originally Posted by RS_Matt
(Post 11779747)
I did always think less grippy tyres were better for lower powered 4x4's drag racing so I kinda stuck with them :/
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Is this guy serious or what ? Who races til 60 mph who even cares, wrx suck donkey wang, if u mod it, it ain't standard is it, so why compare it to a standard STi, go shove your magical sh1-- t box up were the sun don't shine, no one cares about you and time attack beating piece of crap, I'm sick of reading your constant crap ruining this site turning everything about how the wrx is so fast, it doesn't even need brembo brakes, or even slip diffs, what sort of clown are you.
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Originally Posted by nm1
(Post 11779800)
wrx suck donkey wang
all hell is about to break loose |
Originally Posted by BrownPantsRacing
(Post 11779653)
Yours is a 98 import STI so is a little irrelevant as a test against Matt's (amazing) newage WRX anyhow. Totally different.
But also begs a question how do you know your speedo is correct as it would have originally read in km/h? |
Originally Posted by neil-h
(Post 11779776)
Can you actually back that up with any meaningful proof or is it just another one of your 'theories'?
As for the tyres less grip means less rolling resistance, or it used to. |
Originally Posted by RS_Matt
(Post 11779941)
From the transfer case. Within the transmission, as much as 30 to 40 percent of power loss can be attributed to the pump, with the clutch contributing another 20 to 25 percent. The rest of the loss within the transmission comes from seal drag, gear meshing, bearings, bushings and windage (drag on the gears caused by the gear oil).
As for the tyres less grip means less rolling resistance, or it used to. What are you talking about, never seen so much rubbish from you, why this whole thread is not binned is beyond me, its really not worth commenting or even trying to even educate you on, you just blindly spout rubbish plucked from nowhere, with no backup. |
LOL
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OK, this is getting silly now...... just came back to check the ignore function works and it doesn't! I can still see it, any advice appreciated.
Ill get onto a mod about why not. Matt, the wrx vs sti debate is just boring as fook so not even going to lower myself to comment ...... That last post though is just complete BS! Whats your qualification by the way? im guessing it has nowt to do with cars, engineering, physics or common sense. |
Originally Posted by MOTORS S GT
(Post 11779944)
What are you talking about, never seen so much rubbish from you, why this whole thread is not binned is beyond me, its really not worth commenting or even trying to even educate you on, you just blindly spout rubbish plucked from nowhere, with no backup.
The article had no STI/WRX agenda. :thumb: |
Originally Posted by RS_Matt
(Post 11779941)
From the transfer case. Within the transmission, as much as 30 to 40 percent of power loss can be attributed to the pump, with the clutch contributing another 20 to 25 percent. The rest of the loss within the transmission comes from seal drag, gear meshing, bearings, bushings and windage (drag on the gears caused by the gear oil).
As for the tyres less grip means less rolling resistance, or it used to. As for the comment about tyres, given most of your time is made/lost in the first 60 foot to 1/8 mile then surely that logic is obviously wrong? |
Oh dear :cuckoo:
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Originally Posted by MOTORS S GT
(Post 11779944)
What are you talking about, never seen so much rubbish from you, why this whole thread is not binned is beyond me, its really not worth commenting or even trying to even educate you on, you just blindly spout rubbish plucked from nowhere, with no backup.
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Originally Posted by neil-h
(Post 11779974)
You do realise we're talking miniscule differences here right? It's not like we're talking the difference between FWD and 4WD, we're talking the difference between a 4WD 5 speed open diff and a 4WD 6 speed variable diff.
As for the comment about tyres, given most of your time is made/lost in the first 60 foot to 1/8 mile then surely that logic is obviously wrong? Is it just me :wonder: |
Originally Posted by RS_Matt
(Post 11780014)
I'm clearly loosing a battle against STI fanboys and the arbitrarily way they see things but I'm talking about the sum of all parts and a 300lbft 4x4 Impreza should have no issues with a good 0-60 foot in decent drag day conditions so you can afford to run slightly cheaper and or slightly over-inflated tyres.
Is it just me :wonder: Your're arguing with other WRX owners like myself, so STI fanboy doesn't even come into it. This is purely about your unsupported factless idiot opinions we are talking about here now. Your comments above show clearly that you have never seriously drag raced a car. |
Originally Posted by BrownPantsRacing
(Post 11780018)
Give it up for christ sake! STOP with the STI/WRX b0llocks and stop with the STI fanboy rubbish.
Your're arguing with other WRX owners like myself, so STI fanboy doesn't even come into it. This is purely about your unsupported factless idiot opinions we are talking about here now. Your comments above show clearly that you have never seriously drag raced a car. |
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Rather than getting all 65,120 Scoobynet users to click their "ignore the RS idiot" button, would it not be easier to ban him?
I give in! |
Don't ban the poor soul
We need people like RS MATT to keep the spirits high for the fellow wrx owners league who tend to be faster than all sti's ever bred don't ban him pleeeeez:lol1:
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Not TEND but THINK ^^^^
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Originally Posted by RS_Matt
(Post 11780014)
I'm clearly loosing a battle against STI fanboys and the arbitrarily way they see things but I'm talking about the sum of all parts, my main point is the STI has an heavier clutch/box oil pump assembly and they are two main culprits of tranny losses. A 300lbft 4x4 Impreza should have no issues with a good 0-60 foot in decent drag day conditions so you can afford to run slightly cheaper and or slightly over-inflated tyres.
Is it just me :wonder: Thing is you're not talking about the sum of all parts, every time this debate comes up you rattle on and on about the STi transmission as if the WRX is far more efficient. The reality is we're talking probably a 2-3% difference at most. As for the logic on tyres, that's so wrong I can't even bring myself to debate it further. Although if you want an example, look at what people say about the GT86 and it's cheap low rolling resistance tyres... |
Owned both so can speak from experience
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Originally Posted by The Pink Ninja
(Post 11780140)
Owned both so can speak from experience
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