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Matt_taylor 11 January 2007 10:45 AM

206 GTi?

Torpid 11 January 2007 10:45 AM


Originally Posted by davyboy (Post 6536019)
What car should I look out for?

You missed a good dig there, you could have said I think I've seen your can when I overtook you :D. You can call people all the names under the sun and slag the mum off, but making a mockery of their driving is the worst insult know to mankind.

I wouldn't have a dig unless someone deserved it. I don't claim to be an ace driver either, there's room for improvement that's for sure.

I change cars fairly frequently, at the moment I'm in an E46 330XD but I reckon next time I go I'll be in a rental car. I know your car so I'll be sure to come and say hello (might not mention I'm Torpid for a while though :) )

Torpid 11 January 2007 10:47 AM


Originally Posted by chrispurvis100 (Post 6536053)
So what evidence do you have of my low IQ score??

I didn't claim you had a 'low IQ score'. Your obvious lack of comprehension is evidence for some of my suppositions however.

Moley 11 January 2007 10:47 AM


Originally Posted by Torpid (Post 6535923)
You obviously need to check your facts then. Were you there? Do you know what I look like? Did you talk to me?

As for allegations of trolling I believe your post here contributes nothing to the thread and could be said to be the same.

Of course i didn't talk to you....you weren't there :D :hjtwofing

Gear Head 11 January 2007 10:48 AM

Peugeot : V '99 Gti-6 phase 3

Gear Head 11 January 2007 10:49 AM

And your 'social skills' are up there Mary Poppins! :D

Torpid 11 January 2007 10:50 AM


Originally Posted by chrispurvis100 (Post 6536066)

Assuming you can afford to run it that looks like a really nice car.

Should add I'd be suspicious about the lowered suspension though.

Torpid 11 January 2007 10:51 AM


Originally Posted by Moley_WRX (Post 6536065)
Of course i didn't talk to you....you weren't there :D :hjtwofing

Yet another incorrect statement from the insurance salesman. Explain how you know my movements, as far as I'm aware I don't carry a tracking device.

Gear Head 11 January 2007 10:52 AM

25K a year
£800 a month for bills (inc mortgage)
No debts

Yes, I think I can afford it. :rolleyes:

Torpid 11 January 2007 10:55 AM


Originally Posted by chrispurvis100 (Post 6536078)
25K a year
£800 a month for bills (inc mortgage)
No debts

Yes, I think I can afford it. :rolleyes:

I didn't ask for a financial statement, I'm not one of your creditors.

BTW a mortgage is a debt. Yet further evidence that reinforces my opinion..........

Gear Head 11 January 2007 10:58 AM

No debts other than the mortgage that I stated!
I didn't ask for your sarcastic remarks, but hey ho, that's life! :thumb:

Gutmann pug 11 January 2007 11:00 AM


Originally Posted by ///\oo/\\\ (Post 6535793)
But how many are bog standard ex factory cars?


Most of them, other than maybe a brake pad upgrade

Torpid 11 January 2007 11:02 AM


Originally Posted by chrispurvis100 (Post 6536094)
No debts other than the mortgage that I stated!
I didn't ask for your sarcastic remarks, but hey ho, that's life! :thumb:

The remarks weren't sarcastic. Merely an observation that like many sad, deluded souls you categorise 'Mortgage' as a 'bill' rather than what it actually is 'a debt'
I suppose it helps people rationalise things, after all, very few people like to think that they are actually in debt to the tune of tens (or hundreds) of thousands of pounds which is the reality of the situation.

Torpid 11 January 2007 11:04 AM


Originally Posted by Gutmann pug (Post 6536097)
Most of them, other than maybe a brake pad upgrade

In your experience then is the MKIII the most popular version of Golf used on the Nordschleife? Is the MKIII a common sight?

I can only think of a couple I've seen in comparison to the myriad of MKIIs.

Gutmann pug 11 January 2007 11:05 AM

My reason for putting the 172 in the ring is as follows.

You can get a 70K 2000 car for the budget money
Everyone knows they have proven smiles per miles (benchmark car)
Interiors can be a little creaky (what do you want for £3500?)
They give good mpg
They are made using newer technology than most if not all of the other cars mentioned.
I cant say as I have heard of one with an engine problem (probably about to be proved wrong though)
Parts are pretty cheap and plentyful


If you need something reliable dont bother with a 205 or a clio williams newer technology will always win.

All IMHO of course.

Gary

Gutmann pug 11 January 2007 11:06 AM


Originally Posted by Torpid (Post 6536113)
In your experience then is the MKIII the most popular version of Golf used on the Nordschleife? Is the MKIII a common sight?

I can only think of a couple I've seen in comparison to the myriad of MKIIs.


The MK2 golf with an engine upgrade is the most common choice I would suggest.

Gary

hojkoff 11 January 2007 11:11 AM

GTI 6. I own one and it's great, you'll get told that they're unreliable bla bla bla but mines never let me down (touch the biggest bit of wood known to man!)

You cant got wrong with the GTI 6 but I would consider a rallye as well. As someone has already said they're pretty much a GTI without air con and electric windows and mirrors.

You might want to think about a Clio Williams as well.

Torpid 11 January 2007 11:19 AM


Originally Posted by hojkoff (Post 6536139)
GTI 6. I own one and it's great, you'll get told that they're unreliable bla bla bla but mines never let me down (touch the biggest bit of wood known to man!)

You cant got wrong with the GTI 6 but I would consider a rallye as well. As someone has already said they're pretty much a GTI without air con and electric windows and mirrors.

You might want to think about a Clio Williams as well.

The problem as I see it with the Rallye is that it's more likely to have been thrashed as thats its purpose and that you could carry out your own weight saving measures at zero cost to a GTI-6 and get the same results.

The Chief 11 January 2007 11:27 AM


Originally Posted by Gutmann pug (Post 6536120)
The MK2 golf with an engine upgrade is the most common choice I would suggest.

Gary


Sorry for going off Topic but what sort of engine upgrades do the MK2's run i.e 1.8T's ???? that would be a great idea for a track/ring car.

how do they fare against other more powerful cars around the ring?

Moley 11 January 2007 11:36 AM


Originally Posted by Torpid (Post 6536076)
Yet another incorrect statement from the insurance salesman. Explain how you know my movements, as far as I'm aware I don't carry a tracking device.

Broker, not salesman :D

When you post on other threads about the dates you'll be at the ring and what car you'll be in it does draw attention to yourself.
A few member of this and another forum were keeping their eyes out for you on the date you said you'd be there...and you weren't.

Anyway, lets try to keep this thread on topic shall we...

The Zohan 11 January 2007 11:47 AM

Please do not feed the troll

Gear Head 11 January 2007 11:53 AM

Just get rid of him then! He's broken just about every rule the book.......again, yet he is still allowed to post! :cuckoo:

fivetide 11 January 2007 12:38 PM

Proper curve if you are looking to ford 1.7 Puma, great chassis and buzzy zetec engine

eBay.co.uk: 1997 Ford Puma Silver (item 170038900311 end time 11-Jan-07 14:00:44 GMT)

some recommendations (inc Puma) here

Used Car Guide | MSN Cars UK - Used Car Guide: sub-£10k sportscars

Matteeboy 11 January 2007 12:38 PM


Originally Posted by The Chief (Post 6536206)
Sorry for going off Topic but what sort of engine upgrades do the MK2's run i.e 1.8T's ???? that would be a great idea for a track/ring car.

how do they fare against other more powerful cars around the ring?

Most popular mk2 engine upgrades are the VR6 lump and the 1.8T lump.
With proper brakes they are very quick indeed around a track.

Standard 16v engine is very difficult to get more power from - 30bhp extra if you're lucky.

Jonto 11 January 2007 12:50 PM

Scooby for that sort of money ?

Gear Head 11 January 2007 12:57 PM


Originally Posted by Jonto (Post 6536637)
Scooby for that sort of money ?

Hows that a hot-hatch?
Besides, I already have one.
I will only sell mine for the right money, and only replace it with something that is better on fuel/insurance, but still fun to drive.

Torpid 11 January 2007 01:07 PM


Originally Posted by Moley_WRX (Post 6536251)
Broker, not salesman :D

When you post on other threads about the dates you'll be at the ring and what car you'll be in it does draw attention to yourself.
A few member of this and another forum were keeping their eyes out for you on the date you said you'd be there...and you weren't.

Anyway, lets try to keep this thread on topic shall we...

Salesman, broker to paraphrase Will himself

'What's in a name, a turd by any other name would smell just as............ '

The fact I didn't come to the ring in my old S8 when it had been sold by that point is hardly a surprise............

Torpid 11 January 2007 01:18 PM


Originally Posted by Matteeboy (Post 6536587)
Most popular mk2 engine upgrades are the VR6 lump and the 1.8T lump.
With proper brakes they are very quick indeed around a track.

Standard 16v engine is very difficult to get more power from - 30bhp extra if you're lucky.

The most succesful engine upgrade I've seen to a MKII Golf is G60 based. VR6 conversions are meant to screw up the handling. Believe it or not there are also some PD150 MKII's out there as well.

The rarest I've seen there was one of very few the Golf II G60 Limited's but the guy was extremely careful with it so it wasn't quick.

The Chief 11 January 2007 01:23 PM


Originally Posted by Torpid (Post 6536788)
The most succesful engine upgrade I've seen to a MKII Golf is G60 based. VR6 conversions are meant to screw up the handling. Believe it or not there are also some PD150 MKII's out there as well.

The rarest I've seen there was one of very few the Golf II G60 Limited's but the guy was extremely careful with it so it wasn't quick.


Well the VR6 is a heavy unit and 174bhp, so maybe a 1.8t unit with a remap at 210bhp maybe the way to go.

Torpid 11 January 2007 01:40 PM


Originally Posted by The Chief (Post 6536819)
Well the VR6 is a heavy unit and 174bhp, so maybe a 1.8t unit with a remap at 210bhp maybe the way to go.

A G60 can make that.


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