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scoobyboy1 24 November 2013 07:39 PM


Originally Posted by joshnosh (Post 11274082)
i started this thread for one reason. i wanted to know the differences between the cars

i did NOT want to know what car you drive
now we just have 4 pages off:
"iv ownened this and that " "my wrx is fastter than your sti" "i think a is better than b"

i dont care!!!!!!!!!!!

so far 53 is the only person who has given me anything decent! thank you 53
thats a decent list


if anyone would like to contribute to that then feel free


to sum it up i want facts not your opinions

Its a internet forum, Facts and opinions usually get mixed up!!!:D

Thread would have been a bit boring if in the 2nd post you got all the info you needed, Threads like this are interesting, even I learned something new today a blob WRX PPP can do 0-60 in 4.8 secs??

Anyone got the 0-60 of a hawk wrx ppp, must be better then the blob wrx ppp's 4.8 secs as it has a 2.5 lump in there with more torque!!!

53 24 November 2013 07:40 PM


Originally Posted by joshnosh (Post 11274104)
the list dose go on but no one knows where the list is kept!

i post on here to ask and all i get is "you should have bought an sti"


the reason i want to know is because its a better car so:
  • this will show me where to look to to upgrade the car in the future
  • i can then nick bits off the sti if i want to upgrade that bit on the cheep but not go for a full upgrade
  • im curious as to whats better about the sti. why cant i upgrade my car to be better than it?

Because you would cherry pick the parts you placed most value on and then get to a point where you would swear blind it's as good. Quite simply it wont be. :) The parts difference is vast, economically it would be pointless :)

joshnosh 24 November 2013 07:40 PM


Originally Posted by mickywrx (Post 11274114)
It is a fact, you've got a fat Newage, with a TD04. I've got a lighter classic. :p

you have no idea what iv got in my car. untill you can actualy prove yours is faster its a statment

tubbytommy 24 November 2013 07:41 PM


Originally Posted by joshnosh (Post 11274112)
intercooler spray as standard is interesting to know

my side skirts on my WRX are blue like the rest off the car

avcs being variable cam timing?

"engine in sti is far stronger" what sort off bhp can they both take in standard form?

why is it stronger? suposidly the bottom (or should i say center since its a H4 lol) is the same?

some black some colour coded, but different design anyway.

yup avcs is that.

yes the engine is built from better components and will take 450 bhp in standard form where as the wrx is about 350 tops.

joshnosh 24 November 2013 07:43 PM


Originally Posted by 53 (Post 11274118)
Because you would cherry pick the parts you placed most value on and then get to a point where you would swear blind it's as good. Quite simply it wont be. :) The parts difference is vast, economically it would be pointless :)

we all drive Subarus. i dont think we can really talk about economic lol

please enlighten me to this vast parts difference? forget the economy
why cant it be done

joshnosh 24 November 2013 07:45 PM


Originally Posted by tubbytommy (Post 11274124)
some black some colour coded, but different design anyway.

yup avcs is that.

yes the engine is built from better components and will take 450 bhp in standard form where as the wrx is about 350 tops.

better internals? better head? better gasket? better pistons? better oilers? better bearings? better head bolts?

tubbytommy 24 November 2013 07:45 PM


Originally Posted by joshnosh (Post 11274127)
we all drive Subarus. i dont think we can really talk about economic lol

please enlighten me to this vast parts difference? forget the economy
why cant it be done

5 speed wrx gearbox is very weak and the six speed can take big power, the swap costs 2k, one very good reason:thumb:

53 24 November 2013 07:46 PM

I can't be arsed mate I started a list and got bored because at the end of the day enjoy what you've got :) We've come full circle with your last post, you clearly want what the STi offers :) Sell the WRX and buy an STi :)

joshnosh 24 November 2013 07:48 PM


Originally Posted by tubbytommy (Post 11274138)
5 speed wrx gearbox is very weak and the six speed can take big power, the swap costs 2k, one very good reason:thumb:

lol buying saying that it costs 2k you have gone back the economy thing again and at the same time showing that it can be upgraded haha

joshnosh 24 November 2013 07:49 PM


Originally Posted by 53 (Post 11274139)
I can't be arsed mate I started a list and got bored because at the end of the day enjoy what you've got :) We've come full circle with your last post, you clearly want what the STi offers :) Sell the WRX and buy an STi :)

i really dont
i think its the seats. i really hate thouse sti seats lol

tubbytommy 24 November 2013 07:52 PM

im confused mate, what exactly do you want to know, as im offering genuine advice.
what do you want from your car??

if you want big power a wrx is an expensive route to take.

if you want a mild mannered reasonably quick road car the wrx is fine.

mickywrx 24 November 2013 07:52 PM


Originally Posted by joshnosh (Post 11274119)
you have no idea what iv got in my car. untill you can actualy prove yours is faster its a statment

Unless you're full of sh1t;


Originally Posted by joshnosh (Post 11273394)
Suspension I'm heading is just harder with a higher damper rate. Turbo is a td05 insted off 04

Intercooler is bigger

:wonder:

It's all bollox and very subjective anyway. Power is nothing without control, and a lot of it is down to the nut behind the wheel. ;)

scoobyboy1 24 November 2013 08:00 PM

Back in 2005 I spent £12k on modifying my 6 month old WRX, and you know what when I think back, what a tw@t I was!!:cry:

Is my old WRX with £12k spent on it any better then the STi im driving now, the answer would be No, as most the parts come from a STi in the first place and cost a bloody fortune in doing it!!! And im speaking from experience, dont go down that route, you can sit there and say money is not a issue, but if money was not a issue, you would be driving a better car then a Subaru!!

My old 04 WRX!
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y16...boy1/sale2.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y16...boy1/side2.jpg


Note the STi stickers on my WRX!!!

ditchmyster 24 November 2013 08:00 PM


Originally Posted by joshnosh (Post 11274082)
i started this thread for one reason. i wanted to know the differences between the cars

i did NOT want to know what car you drive
now we just have 4 pages off:
"iv ownened this and that " "my wrx is fastter than your sti" "i think a is better than b"

i dont care!!!!!!!!!!!

so far 53 is the only person who has given me anything decent! thank you 53
thats a decent list


if anyone would like to contribute to that then feel free


to sum it up i want facts not your opinions

Lol, you got your answer ages ago BUT this topic is WAY bigger than your OP so fcuk off and let us get on with it.:lol1:

The STI boys aren't interested in facts, like the fact that the WRX has a faster 0-60 time and better gear ratios, nicer colour interior, less drag, lighter, faster spooling turbo, costs £4k less and will hand an sti it's ass off the lights.:lol1:

All they can talk about is a stronger engine & gearbox and slightly better brakes, and it will get to 100mph slightly quicker, but that only counts when they already lost the race.:lol1:



Only joking by the way.:D

53 24 November 2013 08:04 PM


Originally Posted by scoobyboy1 (Post 11274164)
Back in 2005 I spent £12k on modifying my 6 month old WRX, and you know what when I think back, what a tw@t I was!!:cry:

Is my old WRX with £12k spent on it any better then the STi im driving now, the answer would be No, as most the parts come from a STi in the first place and cost a bloody fortune in doing it!!! And im speaking from experience, dont go down that route, you can sit there and say money is not a issue, but if money was not a issue, you would be driving a better car then a Subaru!!

My old 04 WRX!
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y16...boy1/sale2.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y16...boy1/side2.jpg


Note the STi stickers on my WRX!!!

I loved your car Jon :) was the best looking blob WRX of it's short Snet time window :thumb:

Ironically when you sold it the guy told everyone it was an STi lol :lol1:

joshnosh 24 November 2013 08:06 PM


Originally Posted by tubbytommy (Post 11274148)
im confused mate, what exactly do you want to know, as im offering genuine advice.
what do you want from your car??

if you want big power a wrx is an expensive route to take.

if you want a mild mannered reasonably quick road car the wrx is fine.

this is the highest displacement car iv ever owned let alone the fact is also my first turbo

my hobby is modifying cars, scratch that actually modifying anything is my hobby but cars are a big part off it.

the reason i didnt buy and sti: i bought the car just befor my 21st. buying the sti would have just been stupid (not to mention suicidal)

this is my daily driver. what i want out off it is fun. so far its giving me lots off that.

id like to make the car look a bit better. i hate the WRX spoiler and the sti one is a bit barry boy but it just looks right sat on the boot off thease cars so ill do that. i want a splitter. mabey an sti one mabey an after market

im aspiring to go up to about 300bhp over then next few years

i might go more than that if i really want to but then that will be 6 speed and forged internals time ect

ill probably pollybush the whole thing and im not sure what to do about the suspension really. its so refined as a DD that i dont want to ruin it with rockhard coilovers. brakes need to be sharper aswell. ill do them at some point

im basicly just going to make the car mine. there are not meny cars that id want in standard form as theres always little bits i want to be different

bustaMOVEs 24 November 2013 08:09 PM


Originally Posted by scoobyboy1 (Post 11274164)
Back in 2005 I spent £12k on modifying my 6 month old WRX, and you know what when I think back, what a tw@t I was!!:cry:

Is my old WRX with £12k spent on it any better then the STi im driving now, the answer would be No, as most the parts come from a STi in the first place and cost a bloody fortune in doing it!!! And im speaking from experience, dont go down that route, you can sit there and say money is not a issue, but if money was not a issue, you would be driving a better car then a Subaru!!

My old 04 WRX!
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y16...boy1/sale2.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y16...boy1/side2.jpg


Note the STi stickers on my WRX!!!

Lol you spent £12k on mods and kept the chocolate brakes :D

tubbytommy 24 November 2013 08:09 PM


Originally Posted by joshnosh (Post 11274175)
this is the highest displacement car iv ever owned let alone the fact is also my first turbo

my hobby is modifying cars, scratch that actually modifying anything is my hobby but cars are a big part off it.

the reason i didnt buy and sti: i bought the car just befor my 21st. buying the sti would have just been stupid (not to mention suicidal)

this is my daily driver. what i want out off it is fun. so far its giving me lots off that.

id like to make the car look a bit better. i hate the WRX spoiler and the sti one is a bit barry boy but it just looks right sat on the boot off thease cars so ill do that. i want a splitter. mabey an sti one mabey an after market

im aspiring to go up to about 300bhp over then next few years

i might go more than that if i really want to but then that will be 6 speed and forged internals time ect

ill probably pollybush the whole thing and im not sure what to do about the suspension really. its so refined as a DD that i dont want to ruin it with rockhard coilovers. brakes need to be sharper aswell. ill do them at some point

im basicly just going to make the car mine. there are not meny cars that id want in standard form as theres always little bits i want to be different

the wrx is a great car its just the sti is a better performance car. if your just after 300 bhp and a few small mods stick with the wrx

joshnosh 24 November 2013 08:11 PM


Originally Posted by scoobyboy1 (Post 11274164)
Back in 2005 I spent £12k on modifying my 6 month old WRX, and you know what when I think back, what a tw@t I was!!:cry:

Is my old WRX with £12k spent on it any better then the STi im driving now, the answer would be No, as most the parts come from a STi in the first place and cost a bloody fortune in doing it!!! And im speaking from experience, dont go down that route, you can sit there and say money is not a issue, but if money was not a issue, you would be driving a better car then a Subaru!!

My old 04 WRX!
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y16...boy1/sale2.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y16...boy1/side2.jpg


Note the STi stickers on my WRX!!!

ohh very nice

thing is. did you just do performance mods? if you bought and wrx and did mods to make it perform like and sti then yeah your a ****. did you have fun doing it though?

53 24 November 2013 08:11 PM


the reason i didnt buy and sti: i bought the car just befor my 21st. buying the sti would have just been stupid (not to mention suicidal)
So you won't be declaring your mods then ?

joshnosh 24 November 2013 08:17 PM


Originally Posted by 53 (Post 11274189)
So you won't be declaring your mods then ?

why would you assume that?

Kwik 24 November 2013 08:26 PM


Originally Posted by scoobyboy1 (Post 11274164)
Back in 2005 I spent £12k on modifying my 6 month old WRX, and you know what when I think back, what a tw@t I was!!:cry:

Is my old WRX with £12k spent on it any better then the STi im driving now, the answer would be No, as most the parts come from a STi in the first place and cost a bloody fortune in doing it!!! And im speaking from experience, dont go down that route, you can sit there and say money is not a issue, but if money was not a issue, you would be driving a better car then a Subaru!!

Think what you could get with that £12k now, apart from the 6spd box I doubt any of it would be from an STI.

joshnosh 24 November 2013 08:27 PM


Originally Posted by Kwik (Post 11274223)
Think what you could get with that £12k now, apart from the 6spd box I doubt any of it would be from an STI.

indeed
spending 12k on a wrx now would get you a long way!

Donnie Brasco 46 24 November 2013 08:31 PM


Originally Posted by scoobyboy1 (Post 11274116)
Its a internet forum, Facts and opinions usually get mixed up!!!:D

Thread would have been a bit boring if in the 2nd post you got all the info you needed, Threads like this are interesting, even I learned something new today a blob WRX PPP can do 0-60 in 4.8 secs??

Anyone got the 0-60 of a hawk wrx ppp, must be better then the blob wrx ppp's 4.8 secs as it has a 2.5 lump in there with more torque!!!

Your answer....

2.5 STI PPP
316 BHP
332llbs
0-60 - 4.8
0-100 - 12.2
30-70 - 4.7

2.5 WRX PPP
266 BHP
310 llbs
0-60 - 5.3
0-100 - 14
30-70 - 5.2

scoobyboy1 24 November 2013 08:31 PM


Originally Posted by 53 (Post 11274170)
I loved your car Jon :) was the best looking blob WRX of it's short Snet time window :thumb:

Ironically when you sold it the guy told everyone it was an STi lol :lol1:

How things have moved on in Subaru circles!! not many cars where running 400bhp back then, now it seems that everyone runs 400bhp now days!! My blob was running 320bhp at the time which was good power for a WRX:D:, Same as parts, they where expensive, paid £900 for my Prodrive rims used from WUZ(if he still on here) things like STi TMIC where £250-300, not sure what they go for now, now you have FMIC for £199 and uprated clutches for £350, and places that can re-flow your standard injectors etc???:Suspiciou

scoobyboy1 24 November 2013 08:36 PM


Originally Posted by joshnosh (Post 11274225)
indeed
spending 12k on a wrx now would get you a long way!

Tell me about it!!:cry: I was living at home at the time, so every penny I had went on that car. Now I have a mortgage/kids etc, I cant go as mad as I used to!! + I have a missus that keeps a check on what I spend on the car!!:brickwall

joshnosh 24 November 2013 08:40 PM


Originally Posted by scoobyboy1 (Post 11274238)
How things have moved on in Subaru circles!! not many cars where running 400bhp back then, now it seems that everyone runs 400bhp now days!! My blob was running 320bhp at the time which was good power for a WRX:D:, Same as parts, they where expensive, paid £900 for my Prodrive rims used from WUZ(if he still on here) things like STi TMIC where £250-300, not sure what they go for now, now you have FMIC for £199 and uprated clutches for £350, and places that can re-flow your standard injectors etc???:Suspiciou

theres a decent looking topmount on the bay for 130 or so
i shoudnt need to get my injectors changed. i wount be using them much (wheres the evil smiley when you need it!)

Willowsdad 24 November 2013 08:40 PM


Originally Posted by stuart148 (Post 11273529)
iv got kids , house , partner etc etc

Maybe it's all the wrx owners that have a a big thumb print on ya heads

and you need to ask the gf/partner/wife if you can spend a little money on the car only to be told NO ;-)

get some balls and go buy a sti and put up with the crap from the misses , it will only last a day or two
then pass your bike test buy a bike and get on a lads holiday on them
the sh!t from the gf/partner/wife will only last a week or two ;-)

stu

This made me chuckle. I was looking for a wrx with a promise to the gf that the remainder of my budget would be going on her engagement ring.

I bought a wr1. The rings next, I promise. :D

I reckon it's all just down to what suits the individual and their needs.

Donnie Brasco 46 24 November 2013 08:41 PM


Originally Posted by Donnie Brasco 46 (Post 11274236)
Your answer....

2.5 STI PPP
316 BHP
332llbs
0-60 - 4.8
0-100 - 12.2
30-70 - 4.7

2.5 WRX PPP
266 BHP
310 llbs
0-60 - 5.3
0-100 - 14
30-70 - 5.2

Standard WRX and STI times are below

2.5 STI Standard
0-60 - 5.0
0-100 - 12.5
30-70 - 4.7

2.5 WRX Standard
0-60 - 5.9
0-100 - 15.8
30-70 - 5.8

scoobyboy1 24 November 2013 08:43 PM


Originally Posted by Donnie Brasco 46 (Post 11274236)
Your answer....

2.5 STI PPP
316 BHP
332llbs
0-60 - 4.8
0-100 - 12.2
30-70 - 4.7


So a Blob WRX PPP does the same 0-60 as a 2.5 STi PPP:lol1:

Must be a Prodrive masterpiece the blob WRX PPP, have Prodrive come up with anything quicker since then???:wonder:


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