Anything good on TV tonight?
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Originally Posted by The Dogs B******s
(Post 11112844)
Oi, you're female you're not allowed an opinion.:p
I know, what was I thinking. I really should know my place :o |
Originally Posted by 94impreza
(Post 11113339)
Please point to where I said crime would be eradicated and the system perfect?.
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Originally Posted by jonc
(Post 11113582)
You said "until we have an as close to perfect as possible system to eradicate as many criminals as possible then we should stop just letting anyone in." My point is we will never have such a system. Should other countries we travel to stop us from entering their country until they have "as close to perfect as possible system to eradicate as many criminals"? Going by your logic, we should ban UK citizens from traveling to countries in case we commit a crime. When is the system "as closed to perfect"?
So just to get things straight, with 28% of the met's arrests being non British last year, you think that we don't need to change anything regarding applications to migrate to the UK?. |
Originally Posted by Lisawrx
(Post 11113549)
:lol1:
I know, what was I thinking. I really should know my place :o |
Originally Posted by Aaron1978
(Post 11113636)
.....well in case you don't, it has taps and a cooker:D
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You're welcome:D
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Originally Posted by 94impreza
(Post 11113629)
Traveling to other countries or migrating?. I'd expect anywhere in the world that I wanted to migrate to to take the application seriously and for my government to give any relevant information on my criminal record when required. I'd expect to be told if I was arrested within say, the first year of being there, then I'd be immediately deported.
So just to get things straight, with 28% of the met's arrests being non British last year, you think that we don't need to change anything regarding applications to migrate to the UK?. |
Originally Posted by Aaron1978
(Post 11113636)
.....well in case you don't, it has taps and a cooker:D
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
(Post 11113521)
Anything good on TV tonight?
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Originally Posted by jonc
(Post 11113671)
Just so we're clear to the proportion of the figures of arrests; London has a population of 8.2million, 55% of that are immigrants. The Met reported 70000 arrests were "foreign nationals" and not specifically immigrants, but just for arguments sake lets say they were immigrants, that's just 1.5% of the total number of immigrants in London. This figure does not go further to say whether charges and convictions were made following the arrest, so potentially the proportion is even smaller. And because of this tiny minority, we should shut our boarders to immigrants and now foreign nationals too? Talk about a Daily Fail knee jerk reacton!!
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Originally Posted by jonc
(Post 11113671)
Just so we're clear to the proportion of the figures of arrests; London has a population of 8.2million, 55% of that are immigrants. The Met reported 70000 arrests were "foreign nationals" and not specifically immigrants, but just for arguments sake lets say they were immigrants, that's just 1.5% of the total number of immigrants in London. This figure does not go further to say whether charges and convictions were made following the arrest, so potentially the proportion is even smaller. And because of this tiny minority, we should shut our boarders to immigrants and now foreign nationals too? Talk about a Daily Fail knee jerk reacton!!
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Originally Posted by 94impreza
(Post 11113802)
As said a few days ago, even 1% is too much. The Met must also be racist like me :) - "Met wants more foreign criminals in London deported" - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-22802667
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There is a difference between wanting to deport foreign criminals and shutting our borders because some of the immigrants coming here might commit a crime.
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I would have thought that we have enough criminals of our own without importing any more!
Les |
Originally Posted by jonc
(Post 11113869)
I have no issue with deporting criminals back their country and is the next logical step after they've served their custodial sentence. To say deporting foreign criminals makes you racist is just plain stupid!! But this is far cry from closing our borders to immigrants when 99% of them are law abiding.
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Originally Posted by 94impreza
(Post 11114143)
1% of them have been caught, not necessarily law abiding. That's 1.5% in the area covered by the Met, let alone anywhere else in th UK.
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Originally Posted by Leslie
(Post 11114124)
I would have thought that we have enough criminals of our own without importing any more!
Les |
Originally Posted by jonc
(Post 11114236)
Are you suggesting that the proportion of criminality is greater for the rest of the UK? If so show me figures of arrest rates amongst immigrants for the rest of the UK to support your argument. I would guess it's still a tiny minority. At the end of the day what you're advocating is the use of a huge sledgehammer to crack a tiny nut.
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Originally Posted by jonc
(Post 11114236)
Are you suggesting that the proportion of criminality is greater for the rest of the UK? If so show me figures of arrest rates amongst immigrants for the rest of the UK to support your argument. I would guess it's still a tiny minority. At the end of the day what you're advocating is the use of a huge sledgehammer to crack a tiny nut.
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Originally Posted by jonc
(Post 11114236)
Are you suggesting that the proportion of criminality is greater for the rest of the UK? If so show me figures of arrest rates amongst immigrants for the rest of the UK to support your argument. I would guess it's still a tiny minority. At the end of the day what you're advocating is the use of a huge sledgehammer to crack a tiny nut.
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Perhaps it is time to draw a line under this thread.
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Originally Posted by Mouser
(Post 11114375)
Perhaps it is time to draw a line under this thread.
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
(Post 11114471)
I agree, especially when 94impreza still can't work out when to use an apostrophe ;)
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Originally Posted by chopperman
(Post 11114255)
I agree. The other thing i would be interested in is how many convictions resulted from these arrests.
An arrest is not the same (thank god) as a conviction And as you say, it would be very interesting to see ratio of convictions to these arrests and how that compares to the rest of the UK |
Aha, I have just realised this is not the "immigrants / arrests" thread, but another thread, which inevitably, and with tedious regularity descends into utter crap
And in this maze of ill informed bollox it is easy to loose your bearings |
59% of Brits must also be ill-informed. Or 59% of Brit's have actually held a conversation with an immigrant.
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
(Post 11114645)
Aha, I have just realised this is not the "immigrants / arrests" thread, but another thread, which inevitably, and with tedious regularity descends into utter crap
And in this maze of ill informed bollox it is easy to loose your bearings Got to agree with you, NSR is a f**king sad place again right now. SN seems to attract these types, if I was Combat 18 or the likes I would use this place as a recruiting ground. :lol1: I guess I am just lucky enough to be blessed with enough intelligence to think for myself and not be sucked in by the press and their crusade to blame all the country's ills on immigration. That or I can just watch 10 minutes of Skint on Channel 4 to remind myself how disgusting our white homegrown scum really is! It's a pity we can't deport the likes of them and move in some more immgrants, it would be much better for the country :thumb: |
If I was an immigrant I'd love F1_Fan. I could attack any of his kids, clone his credit card, take his job and send any earnings home. As long as a small percentage of white people did similar I'd be fine. I've never known someone racist against their own kind :lol1:.
The only thing I couldn't do though is drive the AMG rust heap, even immigrants know an immigrant in an AMG is an embarrassing cliche. Racist against whites, hates England, drives an AMG - where did you say you were from again?:lol1: |
Originally Posted by 94impreza
(Post 11114837)
If I was an immigrant I'd love F1_Fan. I could attack any of his kids, clone his credit card, take his job and send any earnings home. As long as a small percentage of white people did similar I'd be fine. I've never known someone racist against their own kind :lol1:.
The only thing I couldn't do though is drive the AMG rust heap, even immigrants know an immigrant in an AMG is an embarrassing cliche. Racist against whites, hates England, drives an AMG - where did you say you were from again?:lol1: |
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