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RS_Matt 08 December 2014 08:58 PM


Originally Posted by fat-thomas (Post 11577595)
no fmic on my car and as you and fawor say it was bought pre modded at 430 or 60 or something ive forgotten.

rr printout for 2013 you were at the run in 2012 :lol1:

so the sti is faster than the wrx as confirmed by my 12.8 at 260 bhp

the car was stock in 2012 when you were at the run, 350 bhp is achieved on the proper impreza with just a map

2013 is the new 22/10/2012

Like I said tom, 12.8 with 430 isn't bad for an STI. you've seen all the STI drag runs I've posted.

600bhp WR1 struggling to 12.0
348/401 STI with decent launch getting 13.9

Your time of 12.8 with 430bhp "with a passenger and a boot full of lead" is a credit to the STI.

fat-thomas 08 December 2014 08:59 PM


Originally Posted by Gear Head (Post 11577599)
May be, but you still sound like a 10 year old playing top trumps. :thumb:

surely if i was playing to trumps id claim the 430 bhp and not 260:wonder:

read above the car was bought pre modded at big bhp according to fawor and matt but the car above has lost some 100 bhp and an fmic somewhere...


unless of course matt and immicnut are full of crap:thumb:

Gear Head 08 December 2014 09:06 PM


Originally Posted by fat-thomas (Post 11577603)

surely if i was playing to trumps id claim the 430 bhp and not 260:wonder:

read above the car was bought pre modded at big bhp according to fawor and matt but the car above has lost some 100 bhp and an fmic somewhere...

unless of course matt and immicnut are full of crap:thumb:

Does it really matter? All you and these other idiots seem intent on is proving how much faster you think your car is than the next mans. Who the f%ck cares.....really?

fat-thomas 08 December 2014 09:08 PM


Originally Posted by Gear Head (Post 11577610)
Does it really matter? All you and these other idiots seem intent on is proving how much faster you think your car is than the next mans. Who the f%ck cares.....really?

im not at all, its matt who cant seem to grasp the 12.8 with 260 bhp as it disproves his silly wrx theory:thumb:

drag racing bores the hell out of me hence why i only did it twice

RS_Matt 08 December 2014 09:08 PM


Originally Posted by fat-thomas (Post 11577603)
surely if i was playing to trumps id claim the 430 bhp and not 260:wonder:

read above the car was bought pre modded at big bhp according to fawor and matt but the car above has lost some 100 bhp and an fmic somewhere...


unless of course matt and immicnut are full of crap:thumb:

Sorry to piss on your bonfire but you posted this in 2013 after you ran 12.8 in 2012...


Originally Posted by tubbytommy (Post 11004468)
i go and watch at santa pod quite often on rwyb days as its local to me.
most standard wrxs run in the 14's and standard stis in the 13's.
you need over 400 bhp to get into the 12's in an impreza.


fat-thomas 08 December 2014 09:10 PM


Originally Posted by RS_Matt (Post 11577613)
Sorry to piss on your bonfire but you posted this in 2013 after you ran 12.8 in 2012...

well i was wrong as you can see the remap and the car has no fmic so cant be 460 or whatever you claim bhp.

12.8 at 260 bhp as you well know.


its been fun come back again sometime matt:thumb:

RS_Matt 08 December 2014 09:12 PM


Originally Posted by fat-thomas (Post 11577612)
im not at all, its matt who cant seem to grasp the 12.8 with 260 bhp as it disproves his silly wrx theory:thumb:

drag racing bores the hell out of me hence why i only did it twice

Drag racing does not "bore" you tom either, you frequent drag race threads more than any other SN member and obviously like it enough to watch it "often" at Santa Pod with the odd blast in your car.

scoobyJim2 08 December 2014 09:14 PM


Originally Posted by RS_Matt (Post 11577563)

It was 430bhp.

Initially fat-thomas denied running a 12.8, saying he never got his timeslip (due to having a passenger, what ever that means)

I dug up quotes saying that he did 12.8 in June 2012 and a quote in 2013 with him saying "a Newage needs 400bhp to get into the 12's."

His mate then came on here recently confirming that his car indeed was 430bhp and furthering that he gave his WRX Bugeye to his partner Emma, which is also true.

fat-thomas is one of those guests on Jeremy Kyle who claims his wife's lie detector results are right and his are wrong.

To be honest,this is how i see it. Although Maz sides with Thomas about fawor not being his friend. But i did read the over 400 quote to get in the 12s

Kwik 08 December 2014 09:16 PM

RS Matt 1 - 0 Tubbs.

Back on mpg though. My WRX engine'd STI classic uses £20 of V power over 50 miles. I'm not a maniac but certainly don't watch the fuel guage. It worked out I could get to work and back 6 days a week without a refill.
However, my Diesel POS Renault scenic claims it will do 170 miles on £20. So far its on 8 days, no low fuel light yet (which comes on with 50 miles left).

So in summary, if you want to own an Impreza AND have good MPG then you need a second car (and a supply of EGR valves lol).

AndyBaker 08 December 2014 09:22 PM

[QUOTE=RS_Matt;11577594]

Originally Posted by AndyBaker (Post 11577589)

Pretty much proven bud.

Question still stands

RS_Matt 08 December 2014 09:25 PM


Originally Posted by Kwik (Post 11577623)
RS Matt 1 - 0 Tubbs.

Back on mpg though. My WRX engine'd STI classic uses £20 of V power over 50 miles. I'm not a maniac but certainly don't watch the fuel guage. It worked out I could get to work and back 6 days a week without a refill.
However, my Diesel POS Renault scenic claims it will do 170 miles on £20. So far its on 8 days, no low fuel light yet (which comes on with 50 miles left).

So in summary, if you want to own an Impreza AND have good MPG then you need a second car (and a supply of EGR valves lol).

I did want a 2002-04 etc Golf TDI but, I'm looking at an Audi A2 atm, I think I can get it to run 90mpg and sub 10sec 0-60's.

50 miles off £20 is a miserable return. I can't fathom why lighter Classics always seem to get low MPG claims. Was the engine/drivetrain far less efficient on them?

scoobyJim2 08 December 2014 09:36 PM


Originally Posted by fat-thomas (Post 11577603)

surely if i was playing to trumps id claim the 430 bhp and not 260:wonder:

read above the car was bought pre modded at big bhp according to fawor and matt but the car above has lost some 100 bhp and an fmic somewhere...

unless of course matt and immicnut are full of crap:thumb:

Not necessarily because if you claimed 430bhp then a 12.8 1/4 would be worse than doing that time with 260bhp

Kwik 08 December 2014 09:38 PM


Originally Posted by RS_Matt (Post 11577632)
50 miles off £20 is a miserable return. I can't fathom why lighter Classics always seem to get low MPG claims. Was the engine/drivetrain far less efficient on them?

Not really. It had a teeny weeny TD04 so was boosting at barely any revs. This was exactly the same return the 2.1 was giving me after JGM mapped it.

I'd also say Classics are too much fun to drive economically.

I dont tend to take much notice of how much fuel it used, only leading up to having a diesel. I don't tend to check prices of petrol either, if I were that bothered I'd buy a second car....oh wait...:)

RS_Matt 08 December 2014 09:40 PM

[QUOTE=AndyBaker;11577628]

Originally Posted by RS_Matt (Post 11577594)

Question still stands

This is an American magazine article I obviously "made up."

http://www.motorweek.org/reviews/com...ncer_evolution

My WRX ran 12.6 with 333/307, I've shed about 100kg which equates to circa 20hp imo.

To eliminate my car as a freak/false time A vid of a 215bhp Bugeye WRX I posted earlier ran a 13.9 as did a 348bhp Blob STI in another vid.

This magazine tested the US 2004 STI that has a 2.5 engine and 300/300, 35bhp up on the UK 2004 STI. They managed a 13.8

Every day I read about and watch 1/4 mile passes from STI's and WRX's the pattern is always the same.

I've seen one STI time to date from 100's that impressed me and it was a member of SN that did a 12.1 (after many attempts) with just 370/360. He did have launch control and rear seats removed. I think in a WRX with that power and launch control the same driver should be hitting mid 11's though.

scoobyJim2 08 December 2014 09:41 PM

I don't know why we always have these debates on here anyway?
I mean we all drive or at least like subarus despite model surely. so i can't see why we're not on the same sides.
Does remind me of being a child! 'My dads better than your dad' etc. Lol

Gear Head 08 December 2014 09:45 PM


Originally Posted by scoobyJim2 (Post 11577649)
I don't know why we always have these debates on here anyway?
I mean we all drive or at least like subarus despite model surely. so i can't see why we're not on the same sides.
Does remind me of being a child! 'My dads better than your dad' etc. Lol

That is exactly what the recent posts sound like. The best part is that the posters don't even realise it. :lol1:

RS_Matt 08 December 2014 09:48 PM


Originally Posted by Kwik (Post 11577643)
Not really. It had a teeny weeny TD04 so was boosting at barely any revs. This was exactly the same return the 2.1 was giving me after JGM mapped it.

I'd also say Classics are too much fun to drive economically.

I dont tend to take much notice of how much fuel it used, only leading up to having a diesel. I don't tend to check prices of petrol either, if I were that bothered I'd buy a second car....oh wait...:)

You do know 50 miles off £20 is 14.54mpg at today's fuel prices?

I thought a turbo slightly spooling to get you up to speed would help with efficiency? Shell in an old V-Power magazine recommended accelerating briskly to the speed limit to aid MPG returns.

Kwik 08 December 2014 09:51 PM


Originally Posted by scoobyJim2 (Post 11577649)
I don't know why we always have these debates on here anyway?
I mean we all drive or at least like subarus despite model surely. so i can't see why we're not on the same sides.
Does remind me of being a child! 'My dads better than your dad' etc. Lol

I had a WRX (classic) for 7 years, great car. I don't really see the point of a Newage STI. If you want a more refined car buy a Merc, If you want a quick Impreza buy a classic. If you want a mix of the 2 then buy a Newage WRX.

The parts of the Newage STI are appealing, as a sum of the whole car they aren't too me, except the Spec C's, RA, RA-R etc.

scoobyJim2 08 December 2014 09:53 PM


Originally Posted by Gear Head (Post 11577654)

That is exactly what the recent posts sound like. The best part is that the posters don't even realise it. :lol1:

It is easy to caught up in but i never start it off!
Would much prefer to get along with everyone but i think some get some kind of kick out of it

RS_Matt 08 December 2014 09:53 PM


Originally Posted by scoobyJim2 (Post 11577649)
I don't know why we always have these debates on here anyway?
I mean we all drive or at least like subarus despite model surely. so i can't see why we're not on the same sides.
Does remind me of being a child! 'My dads better than your dad' etc. Lol

I've read so many members say "should have got the STI," "the WRX is crap," "the WRX is poverty spec," "the 5 speed is inferior," etc etc that I felt I had to put the record straight.

I felt like Travis Bickle at times.

Kwik 08 December 2014 09:54 PM


Originally Posted by RS_Matt (Post 11577660)
You do know 50 miles off £20 is 14.54mpg at today's fuel prices?

I thought a turbo slightly spooling to get you up to speed would help with efficiency? Shell in an old V-Power magazine recommended accelerating briskly to the speed limit to aid MPG returns.

It doesn't suprise me. I'm sure any Type R owner will tell you an empty roundabout is too tempting, wet or dry. The WRX classic was easier to pootle in, because it didn't come alive until 4k.
What MPG is 170 miles to £20?

scoobyJim2 08 December 2014 09:55 PM


Originally Posted by Kwik (Post 11577666)

I had a WRX (classic) for 7 years, great car. I don't really see the point of a Newage STI. If you want a more refined car buy a Merc, If you want a quick Impreza buy a classic. If you want a mix of the 2 then buy a Newage WRX.

The parts of the Newage STI are appealing, as a sum of the whole car they aren't too me, except the Spec C's, RA, RA-R etc.

But one way or another you like subarus ;)

Kwik 08 December 2014 09:59 PM


Originally Posted by scoobyJim2 (Post 11577674)
But one way or another you like subarus ;)

Of course :). I love the whole WRX vs STI debate. Undoubtedly the STi is the one to own, but the 0-60 figures WRX figures compared to the STI makes quite a few people squirm lol.

scoobyJim2 08 December 2014 10:00 PM


Originally Posted by RS_Matt (Post 11577671)

I've read so many members say "should have got the STI," "the WRX is crap," "the WRX is poverty spec," "the 5 speed is inferior," etc etc that I felt I had to put the record straight.

I felt like Travis Bickle at times.

But this is my point! Why does it matter what we choose or afford to own?
We're all enthusiasts after all.
There's so much disbelief between everyone too??

RS_Matt 08 December 2014 10:00 PM


Originally Posted by scoobyJim2 (Post 11577674)
But one way or another you like subarus ;)

I love all 197bhp plus Jap sports cars.

RS_Matt 08 December 2014 10:04 PM


Originally Posted by Kwik (Post 11577673)
It doesn't suprise me. I'm sure any Type R owner will tell you an empty roundabout is too tempting, wet or dry. The WRX classic was easier to pootle in, because it didn't come alive until 4k.
What MPG is 170 miles to £20?

50.

Hopefully my A2 will do 300 miles off £20! :luxhello:

bustaMOVEs 08 December 2014 10:07 PM

So how many miles should I be getting from £20 then?




































Who the feck cares!

scoobyJim2 08 December 2014 10:10 PM


Originally Posted by RS_Matt (Post 11577686)

I love all 197bhp plus Jap sports cars.

:👍:

Maz 08 December 2014 10:11 PM


Originally Posted by RS_Matt (Post 11577671)
I've read so many members say "should have got the STI," "the WRX is crap," "the WRX is poverty spec," "the 5 speed is inferior," etc etc that I felt I had to put the record straight.

I felt like Travis Bickle at times.

Travis Bickle or Travis Brickley?

theboy 08 December 2014 10:13 PM

I do find it humerous that the STI owners say the WRX cant afford a STI, i had the WRX and trust me it was not a money issue for not getting the STI. I had a wife that said your not having one of those things with a stupid wing & gold wheels :lol1::lol1:


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