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RoyPinhey 25 November 2013 03:44 PM

7 pages?!?!?

jayallen 25 November 2013 03:51 PM


Originally Posted by RoyPinhey (Post 11275017)
7 pages?!?!?

Very observant but your post made it 8........;)

tubbytommy 25 November 2013 04:19 PM


Originally Posted by RS_Matt (Post 11274898)
I would have thought the long engine friendly ratios on the WRX would mean the engine can take in excess of the 350bhp max STI owners usually quote.

I've read several accounts of WRX's running 400 now without issues, I think in the notorious mapper thread a mapper was saying he'd reluctantly mapped a few to 400 too, I'd like to know if they are still running.

I'd also like to know if saving 300lb of weight puts more, negligable or less strain on an engine/gearbox.

lol do you actually have any idea wtf you are talking about?? so if i get long gear ratios i can run 2000bhp through my engine:freak3:

its not sti owners that quote that figure its engine builders etc.


where are these 400bhp wrxs on standard internals and a wrx is nowhere near 300lb lighter than an sti.

are you just making up stuff to convince yourself you havent bought the inferior model?

i heard the wrx can go back in time if it hits 88mph and the sti cant, its true i tell yah i read it somewhere, probably the same place that quoted you that weight saving and the strength
of the internals

you fckuing halfwit.

RoyPinhey 25 November 2013 04:23 PM

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RoyPinhey 25 November 2013 04:24 PM


Originally Posted by jayallen (Post 11275022)
Very observant but your post made it 8........;)

Oops :D

daveyj 25 November 2013 04:31 PM


Originally Posted by Donnie Brasco 46 (Post 11274978)
I'd like to see how fast a CTR is vs a impreza on a motorway, flooring it in top gear at 70 mph. Though I doubt that I will as I, like most impreza owners, will be long gone by the time the vtec comes in....

That would be an utterly pointless race for that very reason and that's not what owning a CTR is all about.

Kwik 25 November 2013 04:32 PM

There's a lot of WRX envy on this thread.

tubbytommy 25 November 2013 04:34 PM


Originally Posted by Kwik (Post 11275058)
There's a lot of WRX envy on this thread.

there is a lot of made up stuff from wrx owners, 300lb lighter and 400bhp on standard internals.

even you know thats not true being an engine building expert.

oh did you work out how to plumb in an oil pressure gauge :lol1:

exevo3 25 November 2013 04:35 PM


Originally Posted by tubbytommy (Post 11275044)
lol do you actually have any idea wtf you are talking about?? so if i get long gear ratios i can run 2000bhp through my engine:freak3:

its not sti owners that quote that figure its engine builders etc.


where are these 400bhp wrxs on standard internals and a wrx is nowhere near 300lb lighter than an sti.

are you just making up stuff to convince yourself you havent bought the inferior model?

i heard the wrx can go back in time if it hits 88mph and the sti cant, its true i tell yah i read it somewhere, probably the same place that quoted you that weight saving and the strength
of the internals

you fckuing halfwit.

:lol::lol::lol::thumb:

f1_fan 25 November 2013 04:40 PM


Originally Posted by stuart148 (Post 11275005)
F1fan , cotton wool for brains ?? me

mmm made about £3500 profit , so hardly cotton wool inside my head mate

Sorry, thought you bought it as a car for you, didn't realise you were a trader. No worries :thumb:

Kwik 25 November 2013 04:46 PM


Originally Posted by tubbytommy (Post 11275060)
there is a lot of made up stuff from wrx owners, 300lb lighter and 400bhp on standard internals. even you know thats not true being an engine building expert. oh did you work out how to plumb in an oil pressure gauge :lol1:

No it's a poo bit of kit, the temp sensor doesn't seem to get that much oil up to it past the pressure sensor. I swapped them round but the temp sensor is too long and cuts off the gallery.

I can't comment on what a wrx new age or even classic can take as I've never pushed that hard. But in reality if an STI is faster then who cares, it seems the STI brigade are getting upset at the mere suggestion something might come close to it.

What is the weight difference between Wrx and STI?

RS_Matt 25 November 2013 05:05 PM


Originally Posted by tubbytommy (Post 11275044)
lol do you actually have any idea wtf you are talking about?? so if i get long gear ratios i can run 2000bhp through my engine:freak3:

its not sti owners that quote that figure its engine builders etc.


where are these 400bhp wrxs on standard internals and a wrx is nowhere near 300lb lighter than an sti.

are you just making up stuff to convince yourself you havent bought the inferior model?

i heard the wrx can go back in time if it hits 88mph and the sti cant, its true i tell yah i read it somewhere, probably the same place that quoted you that weight saving and the strength
of the internals

you fckuing halfwit.

I'm pretty sure 'a 2000bhp WRX will take 5th gear launches all day long.' If you get the metaphor.

...and who said a WRX is 300lbs lighter than an STI?

Stick to erm ...stickers?

RS_Matt 25 November 2013 05:10 PM


Originally Posted by tubbytommy (Post 11275060)
there is a lot of made up stuff from wrx owners, 300lb lighter and 400bhp on standard internals.

even you know thats not true being an engine building expert.

oh did you work out how to plumb in an oil pressure gauge :lol1:

You're going to feel awfully sheepish when you read back my posts, especially the one where I already point out the difference is 80kg (176lbs)...

3M FTW.


Again if anyone is bright enough to know, will a 300lb weight saving be easier or harder on an engine/gearbox if at all?

RS_Matt 25 November 2013 05:14 PM

Quick eye test for the ST* owners:

Is this WRX Red or Green?

http://www.polland.co.uk/photos/data.../10/fiesta.jpg

jayallen 25 November 2013 05:16 PM

Dude seriously, you need to step away from the crack pipe.....that monkey $hit will mess you up..!

stuart148 25 November 2013 05:25 PM


Originally Posted by f1_fan (Post 11275065)
Sorry, thought you bought it as a car for you, didn't realise you were a trader. No worries :thumb:

not a trader mate , just like to try different cars
the price on the civic was too good to turn down and I knew i could make a few k if I didn't like it
and I didn't so took the good bits off to make £££

take a look how many cars iv had sold trying to find one I like , but all them bought my r1 and payed for 3 holidays last year ;-)

I'll tell you what though iv never bought a wrx
as I only believe in buying the best , so that's why I tend to go for sti's ;-)

;-)

Peedee 25 November 2013 05:35 PM


Originally Posted by f1_fan (Post 11274865)
I never get this hang up Scooby owners have with VTEC cars. That is how they are suppsoed to be driven, it's how they are designed, you rev them... how hard is that to understand?

If you don't like thrashing an engine don't buy a Honda VTEC. Only a subnormal gibbon with cotton wool for brains would ever buy a car without test driving it so it's hardly a fair criticism saying you have to rev it as you know that within 5 minutes of the test drive FFS!

P.S. Honda S2000 - best car I ever owned :thumb:

And I bet you didn't look at all gay driving around with the roof down during the summer? Or maybe your one of those middle-age guys that drives around in the winter with the roof down, wearing a scarf??!! :thumb:

Just your shade this one....

http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/b...psb6ec17a2.jpg

RoyPinhey 25 November 2013 05:40 PM

Id drive that ^

ditchmyster 25 November 2013 05:47 PM


f1_fan;11274865]

If you don't like thrashing an engine don't buy a Honda VTEC. Only a subnormal gibbon with cotton wool for brains would ever buy a car without test driving it so it's hardly a fair criticism saying you have to rev it as you know that within 5 minutes of the test drive FFS!
You have such a wonderful turn of phrase. :lol1:


P.S. Honda S2000 - best car I ever owned :thumb:
+1 on the S2000, fantastic drivers car.:thumb:

f1_fan 25 November 2013 05:51 PM


Originally Posted by Peedee (Post 11275119)
And I bet you didn't look at all gay driving around with the roof down during the summer? Or maybe your one of those middle-age guys that drives around in the winter with the roof down, wearing a scarf??!! :thumb:

Just your shade this one....

http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/b...psb6ec17a2.jpg

Who cares, it was a bloody good car and if people like you got a kick out of thinking I looked gay then knock yourself out, I couldn't give a f**K!! :thumb:

Donnie Brasco 46 25 November 2013 05:51 PM


Originally Posted by daveyj (Post 11275057)
That would be an utterly pointless race for that very reason and that's not what owning a CTR is all about.

Sounds like a big chink in the CTR armour then. You have to be in the right gear at the right time for any useful progress.

f1_fan 25 November 2013 05:52 PM


Originally Posted by stuart148 (Post 11275111)
not a trader mate , just like to try different cars
the price on the civic was too good to turn down and I knew i could make a few k if I didn't like it
and I didn't so took the good bits off to make £££

take a look how many cars iv had sold trying to find one I like , but all them bought my r1 and payed for 3 holidays last year ;-)

I'll tell you what though iv never bought a wrx
as I only believe in buying the best , so that's why I tend to go for sti's ;-)

;-)

Yeah it's called trading ;) :lol1:

f1_fan 25 November 2013 05:54 PM


Originally Posted by ditchmyster (Post 11275133)
You have such a wonderful turn of phrase. :lol1:

Why thank you :D


Originally Posted by ditchmyster (Post 11275133)
+1 on the S2000, fantastic drivers car.:thumb:

Absolutely and completely bombproof too!

stuart148 25 November 2013 05:57 PM

ffs was that really your car , I thought he was taking the piss
ffs I can't stop looking at it 😎🙈🙉🙊

f1_fan 25 November 2013 05:59 PM


Originally Posted by stuart148 (Post 11275147)
ffs was that really your car , I thought he was taking the piss
ffs I can't stop looking at it 😎🙈🙉🙊

No, mine was black, but I like the one in the pic as it happens!

stuart148 25 November 2013 06:01 PM

going out and getting laid every night is that been a hooker too

our lass had 4 cars last year , is she a trader too

f1_fan 25 November 2013 06:03 PM


Originally Posted by stuart148 (Post 11275156)
going out and getting laid every night is that been a hooker too

our lass had 4 cars last year , is she a trader too

I'm only teasing you, but getting laid every night... you're only a hoker if you get paid :thumb:

stuart148 25 November 2013 06:37 PM

and your only a trader if you buy cars to sell , I buy cars and if I don't like I sell
;-)
and I know your messing , but I ain't when I say sti's are better than wrx's

😜

daveyj 25 November 2013 06:38 PM


Originally Posted by Donnie Brasco 46 (Post 11275137)
Sounds like a big chink in the CTR armour then. You have to be in the right gear at the right time for any useful progress.

I wouldn't call it a chink in the armour as such That is kinda what they are about tbh but then you don't have to cane the life out of an EK9 or an EP3 to make progress, they are very well balanced cars and you can keep more than enough speed up through twisties. A motorway is the last place I'd be "racing" one tbh. Bedford Autodrome and the like are a different matter. They are a totally different car to a Subaru and aren't even really being compared to them in this thread. I've only chined up as I own both a CTR and a Scoob and find the former to be a very good drivers car.

Oranges 25 November 2013 06:43 PM

Has the original poster actually had his question answered in between all the bickering?


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