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Old 21 May 2014, 09:53 PM
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potentially going to buy an 05 blob ppp wagon tomorrow, what is the ppp spec.
i know blue silicone hose to intercooler,sports cat? suspension?
cheers for info in advance.
ive had a bug wagon before,is there any major differences.
Old 21 May 2014, 10:43 PM
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TMIC Hose, midpipe decat, prodrive backbox, generic PPP engine map for a claimed 265 Bhp.

Stock WRX up pipe and downpipe.

Suspension isn't included, although some have it. Mine has prodrive springs. Guess it was upto whoever had the car at the time and how much they wanted to pay for .
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Ok.Cheers.Have to change that uppipe then.
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Thought they had prodrive downpipe sports cat. Or am I confused with something else.
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Originally Posted by stamina_daddy
Thought they had prodrive downpipe sports cat. Or am I confused with something else.
ditto
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No change to down pipe....
Old 21 May 2014, 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by stamina_daddy
Thought they had prodrive downpipe sports cat. Or am I confused with something else.
Having fitted a TD05 16G and a prodrive sports cat downpipe along with a ton of other **** a couple of weeks ago to my Blob PPP Wagon I can assure you they don't have a sports cat.
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Originally Posted by ScottyPPP
TMIC Hose, midpipe decat, prodrive backbox, generic PPP engine map for a claimed 265 Bhp.

Stock WRX up pipe and downpipe.

Suspension isn't included, although some have it. Mine has prodrive springs. Guess it was upto whoever had the car at the time and how much they wanted to pay for .
and add the PPP Certificate to the list which some consider important. If no cert then the ECU needs to be checked that it is PPP else who is to say hose and back box are not just PO bolt-ons?
Old 22 May 2014, 07:31 AM
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The STI is the one that gets the sports cat, so that's a big NO on the wrx ppp having it.

My wagon ppp was a dealer owned car and they robbed the ppp off another car and changed the ecu so no certificate, this doesn't bother me as I know the difference in the go factor between the standard 225bhp and the "claimed" 265bhp of the ppp.

As above de-cat centre pipe, blue prodrive tmic hose, prodrive back box and re-flashed ecu.

I think the springs on the wagon are a different rate to the saloon because I have had both and my wagon is definitely stiffer.
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That's a bummer,no sports cat.that was a selling point for me.means more expense for downpipe change and map etc.
I think the car sounds much better with sti up pipe and clear flowing downpipe.
So only real upgrade left for me would be backbox and hose. Hmmm
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Why is it claimed 265.
Are they nowhere near?
Old 22 May 2014, 08:50 AM
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Its not a blue one in East Grinstead is it?
Old 22 May 2014, 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by stamina_daddy
That's a bummer,no sports cat.that was a selling point for me.means more expense for downpipe change and map etc.
I think the car sounds much better with sti up pipe and clear flowing downpipe.
So only real upgrade left for me would be backbox and hose. Hmmm
Mine sounds fantastic with the STi up pipe and the prodrive sports cat along with the TD05.
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Originally Posted by Saffy
and add the PPP Certificate to the list which some consider important. If no cert then the ECU needs to be checked that it is PPP else who is to say hose and back box are not just PO bolt-ons?
Yeah forgot about the certificate! Mine has that, not that its really relevant anymore .
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Originally Posted by stamina_daddy
Why is it claimed 265.
Are they nowhere near?
Some make the power (like mine ) and some don't, there are so many other factors involved in any car making the stated power on any given day, let's face it you only get to hear about the ones that have a problem.

Numbers are over rated, it's all about the way a car drives. The PPP has a very nice mid range pull, has greater peak torque lower down in the rev range than a standard STI, coupled with the 5 speed box makes for a very decent occasional b road blasting daily driver, if you want to mod and track it buy an STI.

Not trying to turn this into another STI vs WRX thread just making the comparison for reference purposes.
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Mine was fun as a PPP. But with the 16G, sti up pipe, sports cat, 550 injectors, walbro pump etc etc. Its alot more fun .

The TD04 runs out of puff too much at the top end IMO. Ducan mapped mine and at no point would the PPP have been making more torque or power than mine does now.
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All depends what you want from your car, horses for courses.
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I had bug wagon wrx remapped,uppipe,downpipe,full de cat and k and n filter .
It was great but really didn't like the looks.
It's not easy grinstead no? Do you have a link.
Was hoping for sports cat to save messing around on mot day.
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I had td05 16 on classic I just sold and was a lot of power all at once which wasn't what I wanted as I live in london,so some times it's speed bump to speed bump.
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Originally Posted by stamina_daddy
I had td05 16 on classic I just sold and was a lot of power all at once which wasn't what I wanted as I live in london,so some times it's speed bump to speed bump.
Depends how its mapped and what you're running with it. Mine makes a bar of boost at about 2900rpm and is on full boost shortly afterwards and holds tons of power all the way until the rev limiter.
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Originally Posted by ScottyPPP
Depends how its mapped and what you're running with it. Mine makes a bar of boost at about 2900rpm and is on full boost shortly afterwards and holds tons of power all the way until the rev limiter.
Full boost at 3200 I think mapped by jgm. Was always in 2nd and 3rd gear then had to stop.
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Interesting thread ,, ive been given a complete sti wri exhaust so might look into swapping at some point

He had two complete exhausts ,, the standard wri one and a mega expensive one he bought for performance upgrade ,, unfortunately he cant recall which one he left on the car when he sold it so after reading this thread i guess ill get down our friendly garage where its stored and see whats what
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Originally Posted by ScottyPPP
Depends how its mapped and what you're running with it. Mine makes a bar of boost at about 2900rpm and is on full boost shortly afterwards and holds tons of power all the way until the rev limiter.
sorry but one bar @ 2900 i'd be gone by then.
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Originally Posted by ditchmyster
sorry but one bar @ 2900 i'd be gone by then.
Having had the car as a PPP and now with the 16G, you'd be nowhere to be seen . Mine as a PPP spooled no earlier really, maybe 100rpm or so. Also 1 Bar on a TD05 is quite alot more air than 1 Bar on a TD04 .

With the STi up pipe and the Sports cat the spool is fantastic.

The stock WRX up pipe is very restrictive.
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Scotty remember what I said, a lot of the ppp cars don't make the power, mine does , but i'm sure we're both happy with what we have.
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Originally Posted by ditchmyster
Scotty remember what I said, a lot of the ppp cars don't make the power, mine does , but i'm sure we're both happy with what we have.
Mine made its power too . Just makes alot more now.
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Originally Posted by stamina_daddy
potentially going to buy an 05 blob ppp wagon tomorrow, what is the ppp spec.
i know blue silicone hose to intercooler,sports cat? suspension?
cheers for info in advance.
ive had a bug wagon before,is there any major differences.
Well I bought it. Going to pick it up tonight or tomorrow. 91k full service history.cambelt and tensioners done last year.clutch done 12k ago.
Crystal silver/grey. Anthracite wheels.
Finally got the impreza I wanted.
Just hope it lasts a few stress free years.
The last classic I had knocked 5 years off my life expectancy. Ha ha.
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Well done, the PPP is a great package it just needs a few basic handling mods, get used to it and you'll discover just how good it is as an every day car, I don't really fell the need for more power in a daily driver and they punch well above their weight once on the open road.
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Originally Posted by stamina_daddy
Well I bought it. Going to pick it up tonight or tomorrow. 91k full service history.cambelt and tensioners done last year.clutch done 12k ago.
Crystal silver/grey. Anthracite wheels.
Finally got the impreza I wanted.
Just hope it lasts a few stress free years.
The last classic I had knocked 5 years off my life expectancy. Ha ha.
Well done, sounds like what I've just bought

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Yes the same but my wheels are anthracite.
Yours looks lighter but I think the colour changes depending on light etc.


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