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Old 01 October 2014 | 08:59 PM
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My goal is about 400-420 bhp would ported headers be okay or would I need rcm spec headers at this level?
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Generally ported headers are good for around 380 to 400 bhp at which point the benefits of tubular manifolds become apparent.
I used Lateral's GT spec manifold and 3 bolt up pipe when going over 400 and was pleased with the quality and increased performance.
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Tubular ones possibly then
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At the level you're aiming for RCM (GT spec) headers coupled with the 'Harvey' up-pipe would be of benefit. Don't forget to budget for wrapping headers and up-pipe.
Talk to Aln at ASPerfprmance.

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Originally Posted by JohnD
At the level you're aiming for RCM (GT spec) headers coupled with the 'Harvey' up-pipe would be of benefit. Don't forget to budget for wrapping headers and up-pipe.
Talk to Aln at ASPerfprmance.

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RCM headers are supplied with a ported upipe
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I think John was referring to a harvey trick up pipe. That is different to a normal ported up pipe.
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Originally Posted by MattyB1983
I think John was referring to a harvey trick up pipe. That is different to a normal ported up pipe.
Yes, it's got a venturi profile to speed the gases before entering the turbo.

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I had Lateral headers on my blob eye where awsome
Old 03 October 2014 | 06:03 PM
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Cheers glenn
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R the lateral and rcm ones the same or is there any difference?
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lateral RCM GT spec all the same.
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Just a word of advice, if you plan on buying the RCM ones then DO NOT buy them direct from RCM.
They are available much cheaper from advanced automotive.

http://www.advancedautomotives.com/r...eza-1741-p.asp

Same manifold but without the 'RCM TAX'.
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£450 + £80 for fitting kit
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R the afterburner ones that scoobyworld sell the same or different to the above mentioned?
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they are ****e.

as said rcm,gt spec or lateral all the same and the best dont bother with anything else.

ive got a set under my bed
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Originally Posted by b3nmw
£450 + £80 for fitting kit
RCM charge £594 for the same manifold.

And you don't need an £80 fitting kit.
Old 13 October 2014 | 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by MattyB1983
Just a word of advice, if you plan on buying the RCM ones then DO NOT buy them direct from RCM.
They are available much cheaper from advanced automotive.

http://www.advancedautomotives.com/r...eza-1741-p.asp

Same manifold but without the 'RCM TAX'.
Went for the above in the end, thanks for the link
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Old post...however will the car not push 400+ bhp on standard headers
Does Channing the headers make the car sound different? The subaru burble
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No, with the rcm manifold that’s equal length it sounds pretty much the same.
Mid you swap to equal length then yes you loose the burble
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Imo the burble is much pronounced on the std set (having run both).
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Ported std headers will get 400, but you will need the supporting mods. A very good 2.5" or 3" turbo back etc.
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Originally Posted by Power Junkie
Ported std headers will get 400, but you will need the supporting mods. A very good 2.5" or 3" turbo back etc.
Are these standard on a STI 05?

As I have been told 400 - 430bhp is possible with standard headers...as no mapper has mentioned this ..
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